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posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

"Treason"

Thats a very strong word to be using, now I don't feel confident enough to call what he done treason, but when I even see those who typically lean more to the right in the media using words like "treason" that really gets me thinking.




posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: matafuchs




It is so funny to see so many of you who HATE FOX use it for your purposes.


I think the point is that even Fox are now turning against Trump, its not so much about using them to make the point that Trump messed up on the meeting its that EVEN fox are saying he's messed it up.


Because Fox is part of the same damned system.

All the other nonsense in politics...none of it matters when it comes to central banks. If a nation doesn't have a central bank, they are our enemies. No matter how you spin it. And since all media is simply a mechanism of our own IC, its unsurprising to see the news being bleak about Trump doing anything but demanding capitulation from Russia (and the insalling of a central bank in the reserve system).

This has nothing to do with conservative or liberal. Its all to do with money, the God of the One World Government.



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I don't really think you can distract from this by talking about central banks and the one world government.

The point right now is quite simply that Trump messed up in Russia and now even Fox News are turning on him.

I agree that untimely like everything in politics this is about money at the end of the day, its also about power and in front of the world media the other day Trump looked weak in front of a very powerful Putin. Now even his allies in the more right leaning corners of the media are calling him out for it.


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posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:43 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

Will Trump now close U.S. Military Installations in The E.U. ( who he regards as a foe ), and relocate them to his best mate in Russia ?



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:43 PM
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I guess Trump gave Putin recognition on the world stage?

LOL morons..



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:45 PM
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originally posted by: notsure1
I guess Trump gave Putin recognition on the world stage?

LOL morons..


You know when Trump says that getting along well with Russia and China is a good thing I 100% agree with him.

Thats no the problem, the problem is that he basically turned round and said, America is wrong, Russia is right when there is a body of evidence from his own side (thats America if anyone is a bit confused) that says actually we think Russia did interfere with the election.



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

President Trump could have said something like, "President Putin has claimed no involvement and I think he is being sincere, however, I reserve any judgement until all the facts are in. Due to respect for President Putin as an important leader of a large and powerful nation I'll be taking him at his word on this matter until proven to my satisfaction otherwise."

That would have saved face for Putin and Trump both while still giving Trump a position of strength. Otherwise, as it stands, I'd have to admit it looked like an ass kissing on Trump's part to me.
edit on 17-7-2018 by MichiganSwampBuck because: for clarity



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Because the media and Democrats don't care about interference, they talk about collusion where Trump did something wrong. So of course Trump is going to respond along the same lines. They caused this with their dead narrative they keep beating.



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

Yup something like that would have worked, he could have handled it much better than he did, thats really all my point is.

Its a win for Putin's Russia and a massive slap in the face to Trumps America in my view.



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:49 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: notsure1
I guess Trump gave Putin recognition on the world stage?

LOL morons..


You know when Trump says that getting along well with Russia and China is a good thing I 100% agree with him.

Thats no the problem, the problem is that he basically turned round and said, America is wrong, Russia is right when there is a body of evidence from his own side (thats America if anyone is a bit confused) that says actually we think Russia did interfere with the election.





how does TRUMP know Putin had anything to do with any of it? He cant even get his own media to write anything but a hit piece on him.

Couldnt Russians of hacked the DNC without Putin knowing anything?

Couldnt Russian interest create social media accounts without putin being aware?

What has Putin gotten from the deal?????

Besides warships andmore sanctions?



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:50 PM
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We have our own trash to take out without worrying about non-citizens pushing the Democratic agenda too.

QFT
isnt this EXACTLY what everyone is losing their minds about?
but its ok when the brits or israelis do it....



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: I think it would be better than the mess he is now.


The only mess that I can see... Trump is doing a good job stirring up the MSM. I think It's pretty entertaining seeing the MSM get their panties in a wad.

So far it's been a pretty good show.



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

Ahhh MEDIAPORN... the new DOOMPORN.

Now with extra Russia.



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
So, now that FOX is calling out Trump and some Non-RINO's they are all ok to listen to, right?

It is so funny to see so many of you who HATE FOX use it for your purposes.


mata, I read Fox daily, always have. I also read CNN and CBS and ABC and BBC and Reuters and AP and a few others. Every day.

I don't post Fox or CNN as there are more credible sources for news and for information, so breaking news and facts I'll post from someone more trustworthy. However, this is commentary, it's opinion. It's not breaking news.

Do you have any comment on topic? How do you think the President acted? Did he makes us look strong or do you agree with the international analysis of the Summit?



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: notsure1
What has Trump done for Putin ? What did Vlad get out of all this "collusion"?

LOL This stuff is just to funny..


This entire post encapsules exactly what Putin wanted.



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:53 PM
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Will someone please answer how Putin is benefiting from a Trump presidency ?

You cant without looking stupid...


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posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:56 PM
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The point is, American intelligence has said Russia, the Russian state acted to interfere with the 2016 election.

I think it is reasonable to assume that this was done with the knowledge of the most powerful man in the world, Putin.

Now the real issue that is being discussed right now is how Trump handled the issue of Russian interference in the 2016 election. He basically said, "yeah America is wrong, Russia is right", that is a slap in the face to Americans in my opinion.
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posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:57 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: matafuchs




It is so funny to see so many of you who HATE FOX use it for your purposes.


I think the point is that even Fox are now turning against Trump, its not so much about using them to make the point that Trump messed up on the meeting its that EVEN fox are saying he's messed it up.


Because Fox is part of the same damned system.

All the other nonsense in politics...none of it matters when it comes to central banks. If a nation doesn't have a central bank, they are our enemies. No matter how you spin it. And since all media is simply a mechanism of our own IC, its unsurprising to see the news being bleak about Trump doing anything but demanding capitulation from Russia (and the insalling of a central bank in the reserve system).

This has nothing to do with conservative or liberal. Its all to do with money, the God of the One World Government.


oh, look! An attempt to confuse the issues! Your president has officially crossed the point of no return. He's looking like a damn fool, and you are looking pretty dumb bending over backwards with this garbage. Be best!



posted on Jul, 17 2018 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: notsure1
Will someone please answer how Putin is benefiting from a Trump presidency ?

You cant without looking stupid...


Off the top of my head...

Trump got the Repubs to change the language in the Republican National Party Platform to STOP funding and arming the rebels fighting against Putin's annexation of Crimea. He got Mike Flynn to promise to have those pesky sanctions lifted. (FAIL)

Trump is alienating our trade allies, like at the G7 and is threatening to destabilize NATONATO. Putin benefits from that. He withdrew military excursuses from Korea, which is something Putin wanted.

...just off the top of my head.
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