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UK 6th Generation Fighter Named - Tempest

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posted on Jul, 27 2018 @ 02:41 PM
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UKDJ

This article mentions that it was worked on from 1994 to 1998, 24 years ago!

I guess pilotless figher/bomber jets is the natural next step, the jets could make manoeuvers that with a pilot on board would be dangerous.

knowing our inept government though, theyll spend 90% of the budget, then cancel the program in a defence review...




posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 01:25 AM
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originally posted by: ukmicky1980
UKDJ

This article mentions that it was worked on from 1994 to 1998, 24 years ago!

I guess pilotless figher/bomber jets is the natural next step, the jets could make manoeuvers that with a pilot on board would be dangerous.

knowing our inept government though, theyll spend 90% of the budget, then cancel the program in a defence review...



I started work there in 1994 and remember when Replica was released no one had a clue it was being built (I mean some would, but it was never discussed or even rumored). Taranis on the other hand although quite secret in details, everyone knew about it, including the public, but no one really new much except when they borrowed our production kit (bit like EAP borrowed numerous Tornado systems).

Although I understand the need to share development costs, I just don’t think the four other major European countries are good partners for the UK and I hope we stay clear of them.

France have a similar mindset and are developing their Rafale similar to the UK typhoon, but they just cannot accept they are an equal partner even if they are not paying the same or bringing the same technology, arrogant frog is a fair definition.

Germany, Italy and Spain don’t have the same requirements, they don’t really deploy overseas so more defence than offense and air not so much ground.

I don’t think we can cancel it, it may morph into something else (most likely) but we need to start planning Typhoon replacement even though we are still developing it!



posted on Jul, 30 2018 @ 06:26 AM
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originally posted by: Kurokage
This is starting to look like it could be a good party to be at??


Definitely! The export potential is massive, and to be fair that would be one of the main reasons behind any partnership. At the end of the day BAE is the third largest defence contractor on the planet, bigger than NG and GD. We absolutely have the capability to go this alone, with a propulsion partnership from Rolls.

The beauty of having a tight budget, a partially state owned tier 1 and a rapid capability office is that over engineering, scope creep and gold plating are all reduced, meaning you get a product on time, in spec and on budget. This is seriously exciting for the UK defence industry, and for the first time I'm seeing something positive coming from Brexit posturing!

Cheers
Robbie



posted on Jul, 30 2018 @ 06:48 AM
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Did the UK-French work on the joint UCAV programme go to the dogs? I cannot see that it would still be running.

This was the deal announced in 2014 that spliced the BAE Taranis with the Dassault Neuron UCAVs. The Franco-German announcement last year for a "future fighter" with Dassault in the driving seat probably produced the coffin, while the UK's announcement for Tempest would have produced the hammer and nails. Both parties to the 2014 contract are now competitors.

I wonder which party got the most benefit? I'm guessing Taranis was more advanced, so France (Dassault) got the benefits.

Taranis - Neuron

EDIT to add that the Franco-UK UCAV programme seems to have been a two-year affair. Not seen any output of the millions spent, but they probably had sandwiches at the meetings, but failed to agree whether the sandwiches has crusts on/off, or what the vegetarian option was etc...
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posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 08:48 AM
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Hi,

The FCAS UCAV program is still very much alive, although it remains to be seen what will happen post Brexit.

FCAS is not just one platform, it's a system of platforms that are inter-operable based on joint technologies developed across Europe. The amount of work which has already happened leads me to believe that regardless of the state of the EU and nationally developed programs like Tempest, FCAS as a system and a concept will remain and be delivered.

I wouldn't say that either Taranis or Neuron were more advanced than the other, they both demonstrated some incredible progress in UCAV technology and a great deal was learnt.

Cheers
Robbie



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 03:10 PM
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What’s more, any observer would have noted that in recent years all new combat aircraft have looked very similar. “There are only so many ways you can design an aeroplane in a wind tunnel which has both stealth and basic kinematics built in,” Bagwell said.


That needs to be said over and over until some people shaddap about X, Y or Z stealing stuff.

ahem.

www.theengineer.co.uk...
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posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 03:49 PM
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That's one of those things that can't be said enough.



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 03:03 AM
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Is there anywhere in the Uk that does large scale airframe manufacturing anymore?Building scale demonstrators or UAV,s are one thing but building a large fighter is something the Uk hasnt done in a long time.Lot of good ideas though and knowing BAE they will pull it off.



posted on Oct, 13 2018 @ 04:01 AM
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Airbus are building Aircraft wings in North Wales, Iirc? the Hawk trainers are built in the North of England?



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