a reply to: Irishhaf
Actually, that is already done by the IRS and state revenue agencies.
It is not effective at reducing, not to mention stopping ID theft, primarily for the second reason I noted above: You can’t prevent human error.
Even when notified that there is a problem with their return concerning the SSN, there is nothing to stop them from forgetting to correct the error,
forgetting to mention the error to their preparer, or having someone else making an error on their return that shows up on the first taxpayer’s
And you would not believe how many times I’ve had to deal with taxpayers who were cussing angry because of a letter they received asking them to
verify their identity due to some discrepancy on their return.
Taxpayer: Why the # did I get this letter? I have a very professional CPA file my return.
Me: What is your SSN?
Taxpayer: Let me find my card. (Doesn’t know number by heart)
Me: Please read your SSN to me, but read it backwards.
Me: Yes (People who have memorized their SSN will often not “read” their number off a document, but will “recite” the number from memory,
which may not be the number written).
Taxpayer: (reads number)
Me: That is not the number on your return (two numbers have been transposed, maybe one number has been entered twice, or one number has been entered
incorrectly: a handwritten “1” mis-entered as a “7”, say).
The IRS is not a data-generating agency, it is a data collection and processing agency. It is not responsible for the veracity of the information
taxpayers and employers provide, just the processing of that information in compliance with the existent tax laws.
That’s why, just above where you sign your return, there is an “affirmation statement” by which you affirm that by signing your return, you are
swearing, under penalty of perjury, that ALL the information on your return is both true AND correct to the best of YOUR knowledge (not your
And, of course all of this is moot if the person filling the return IS committing fraud: they simply don’t respond to the official inquiry.
And NONE of this has anything to do with undocumented aliens using “stolen” SSN’s to commit ID theft, as the aforementioned douche bag
Undocumented filers will use “fake” SSN’s to work under, so that they CAN work and have their wages and withholding reported properly by their
employers, under their actual names.
That’s Not ID theft to try to steal a legitimate citizen’s assets/credit/identity: these folks are actually trying to PAY the taxes they owe (if
any) despite the roadblocks the system has set before them.
The type of ID theft the jerk here refers to occurs when, as happened two years ago, hackers (in this case, From You Know Where) crack the security of
a major data bank (in this instance, it was Intuit, which provided the tax preparation software for a majority of the independent tax preparers in the
US) and gain access to, not only taxpayer SSN’s , but ALL the information on their returns, right down to the IRS-issued “PTIN” identifying
their preparer as a legitimate preparer.
You don’t see Representative Doofus addressing THIS issue, now do you?
edit on 14-7-2018 by Bhadhidar because: (no reason given)