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How much would you pay in taxes for these benefits

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posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 08:26 PM
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I'm already in the 28% bracket. Can I move my taxes from Military spending to healthcare instead? Because I really don't care if we have bases all over the world and I feel like the DoD is a tremendous waste of my money.




posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 08:29 PM
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originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
I'm already in the 28% bracket. Can I move my taxes from Military spending to healthcare instead? Because I really don't care if we have bases all over the world and I feel like the DoD is a tremendous waste of my money.


Agreed I'd accept these free benefits at the expense of the safety of the rest of the world. Not sarcastic either. If we pulled out of NATO and stopped sending aid to every back hole #hole in the world we could house our homeless, treat our vets properly and provide much needed medical care for all us citizens.
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posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 08:32 PM
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America is like that big brother, sure he does really well and has a lot going for him. But he gives up a lot protecting your worthless, lazy, little brother ass.

When he gives you money for a car or shovels your grandmas sidewalk, you don't call him an asshole. Eventually we are going to stop doing these things.
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posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

You know because losing around 35% outright from what we make isn't enough. It's not a "fair" share, and that's before we talk about property taxes, the 10% sales tax we have locally on everything, the gas tax, our municipality's 1% earnings tax ...

But, you know, if you cough up more off the top of what you have left that you're already struggling to make ends meet with, you could have all this that may or may not meet your needs, and if it doesn't, well, if you have enough left over after we take what we need to pay for what you don't need or can't use, then you can always go outside the system on your own ... look at private schools!



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 09:01 PM
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If only we could tax the earners 100 percent so that the rest could have all they "deserve". That would make life "fair".

It's a basic human right, damnit.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 09:02 PM
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"Behind every good socialist nation. Is a capitalist to fund their socialism".

- an intelligent person(aka me).



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 09:07 PM
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originally posted by: MisterSpock
If only we could tax the earners 100 percent so that the rest could have all they "deserve". That would make life "fair".

It's a basic human right, damnit.


Tax earners 100% and force employers to pay $100/hour. That would mean free stuff for everyone.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 09:09 PM
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And I, and others, would totally bust our ass to get the same as those that don't lift a finger.

How could that go wrong?

Not like everyone would stop producing and expect handouts or anything.
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posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 10:16 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: JoshuaCox


By law (thank Obamacare) the maximum profit is 15% for corporate health insurance, and 20% for individual health insurance companies.


They must use 80% of the premium money on health care costs. Not profit.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 10:47 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd


Just an FYI


Denmark: Not As Socialist (Nor As Successful) As You Think

www.huffingtonpost.ca...




As Danish Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen himself put it, in reaction to this fictionalized vision of his country: "I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy."

Admittedly, it is a market economy with high taxes and an extensive welfare state. But it wasn't always so--and it might not stay that way for very much longer.

Booth also says there is a broad consensus that the Danish welfare state remains unsustainable, despite the many reforms of recent decades. "The Danes' dirty secret is that its public sector has been propped up by--now dwindling--oil revenues."

The lessons to draw from the Danish model are clear, even if they're not the ones Bernie Sanders would like us to draw. The Danes benefited from low taxes in order to get rich, and they remain fairly well-off thanks to a light regulatory touch, but their extensive welfare state is not the great success it's cracked up to be. Anything else is just a romanticized fairy tale.




The only ones who quote the "Nordic model" are unfamiliar of the REVERSAL that occurred.

Big Government Big Welfare / State Socialism only took less than 30 years to bring them down. Now they CUT taxes, reformed welfare, partially privatized pensions, cut regulations, provided school vouchers....

Luckily, instead of "doubling-down" on stupid, they reversed course.

Links and information here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 11:09 PM
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originally posted by: roadgravel
Insurance is in general under the 80/20 rule in using premium money.


But those shrewd insurance companies increased their premiums enough so that the reduction to 20% profit, yielded the same amount of profit most of them had before the 80/20 MLR was implemented.

And of course, most state regulators allowed the cumulative 150% premium increase over the past 5 years.



posted on Jul, 13 2018 @ 12:29 AM
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originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
I'm already in the 28% bracket. Can I move my taxes from Military spending to healthcare instead? Because I really don't care if we have bases all over the world and I feel like the DoD is a tremendous waste of my money.


Now, I'm all in favor of health care over the cost of the US Death Machine.



posted on Jul, 13 2018 @ 12:39 AM
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The truth is if I can save one dollar in taxes or provide healthcare to some democrat, I am keeping that dollar. It will likely go towards a coffee. That is what you mean to me.



posted on Jul, 13 2018 @ 01:32 AM
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How much would you pay in taxes for these benefits? how about what do the people of Denmark pay for those benefits in taxes. oh yes it seems that Denmark has it so good. they have so many much better government handouts than other countries do. but again, at what cost? Denmark income tax is at 55.8% (and has ranged from a low of 55.4% to a high of 65.9% since 1995). then on top of that Denmark has a 25% sales tax. so just between those TWO taxes you are looking at about 81% taxes. that is $81 out of every $100 you earn going to taxes.

perhaps the headline for this thread would more appropriately be. "would you want to pay over 80% tax to have all these things Denmark has?"


The Personal Income Tax Rate in Denmark stands at 55.80 percent. Personal Income Tax Rate in Denmark averaged 60.45 percent from 1995 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 65.90 percent in 1997 and a record low of 55.40 percent in 2010.
tradingeconomics.com...



posted on Jul, 13 2018 @ 04:54 AM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

How about not "How much would *you* pay", but "How much are corporations, lobbyists, and politicians skimming out of tax payer dollars that COULD pay for all of this"
How much could be accomplished without parasites sucking the life out of us?



posted on Jul, 13 2018 @ 05:04 AM
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The trouble with paying more in taxes is that those in charge of spending that tax money just bloody waste it.
In the UK its spent in the NHS on huge salaries for MP's spouses to sit in a boardroom at a 50 grand granite table once a month and rubber stamp what the trust is doing. Spent on flash office upgrades every year or two for some administrator or other, fiddled away to someone's mate via a PFI scheme or some other rubbish.



posted on Jul, 13 2018 @ 07:14 AM
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originally posted by: MisterSpock
If I'm lucky to have enough money to pass onto my family, they will take 30 percent of that as well.


Why do I not believe you have that much in assets?


I pay 300 dollars a month for health care I haven't used in years. That's another 10 to 20 percent of my income. On top of the 30 percent in income tax and 15 percent in property tax I pay.


So you make about $2k/month? Wow, you must live so frugally to be able to have over $5.5 million in assets to be affected by the death tax. Maybe liquidate some your assets now so you're not impacted as heavily by the



posted on Jul, 13 2018 @ 07:38 AM
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a reply to: SprocketUK

I think if I recall correctly, the NHS might also employ more people than our military.



posted on Jul, 13 2018 @ 07:40 AM
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a reply to: links234

Who cares?

All it takes for that to hit you is something like land in your family. My family doesn't make that much, but we have enough in assets that the death tax would hit us because we have land. Land we would prefer to keep because you never know ...

So we put it in a trust.



posted on Jul, 13 2018 @ 08:18 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko


Maybe, I don't know, but when you look at all the silly, money wasting things they do it's easy to see why they are 8 billion over budget each year.

One example is this.

Every treatment has to be accounted for, so if you go in to A&E with a fractured arm, there is a bill drawn up from the A&E dept to go to the trust, next there will be the fracture clinic, who do another bill to the trust, outpatients, physio and several more fracture clinic visits until you are turned loose.

There are entire accounting departments to shuffle this paper around, but, here is the thing, the NHS is one institution, so how much, per year is wasted on these silly pretend invoices and processing thereof? I bet it would take an enormous chunk out of what the NHS spends in a year.







 
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