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This is the deceitful news im tired of.

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posted on Jul, 11 2018 @ 11:23 PM
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The media has an agenda and i see this, the biggest effect its had on our country is the fuel of hate, division, anger. Never anything good just constant negative articles thats been proven to make people angry and down eachothers throats...

Anyways this article's headline makes it sound like shes a far right conservative nazi but she's not, she claims to be a part of a socialist nazi group. I honestly dont know who this woman is, never heard of her and my prayers go out to the victims families, there is no justice good enough to be served to pay for the death of those victims but at least she is caught!

So, anyway, to me it makes it sound like "See, far right extremist conservatives are nazis" but in reality people who know real history nazis have ALWAYS been a socialist. During WWII nazis were far right back then ONLY because there fellow counter part were communist. Ive seen a lot of deceiving headlines from all msm outlets. I thank they should all be fired and replaced with people that actually report the news instead of telling people what they should be angry about.

Remember, there is a war going on for your mind fellow ATS'rs, dont be duped and stay frosty!

'Nazi bride' Beate Zschaepe guilty of far-right killings in Germany via NBC News -

www.nbcnews.com...




posted on Jul, 11 2018 @ 11:54 PM
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a reply to: xBWOMPx

I'm not seeing it that way. The article actually left me feeling that, even though they did some terrible things, she turned herself in, spoke only twice in 400 days and did not try to make excuses, said she was sorry and said she felt guilty she did not put a stop to it. What more can you ask for when the deed is already done. She did ok right at the end. It did not leave me thinking the far right was crazy or violent or anything like that, even though neo-Nazi already carries that connotation.

As far as the name of the group saying Socialist but being far-right; don't let that confuse you. It rarely means what it means here in the US. Hitler's Nazi party was first called National Socialist Worker's party, so while the group's thinking is very far right, they are paying homage to the fuhrer and his party.

Besides, their party names make no sense to me even today. Germany's neo-Nazi party is called the National Democratic Party, then there's liberal left and the liberal right party, and then the social liberal. All in all 14 major parties and many minor ones.

Political Parties in Germany



posted on Jul, 11 2018 @ 11:54 PM
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a reply to: xBWOMPx

I agree the media (and powers that be) are doing an incredible job at igniting emotions on both sides, exaggerating headlines and even using fake stories.

But this woman was a member of a terrorist group that was responsible for 10 murders, 15 bank robberies, and other reprehensible acts.

She claims she did not do the killings.

Anyway, my point is don't let the headlines and news outlets get you worked up, and that perhaps this person deserves the be villainized. It's not worth it



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 12:01 AM
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originally posted by: Kharron
a reply to: xBWOMPx

I'm not seeing it that way. The article actually left me feeling that, even though they did some terrible things, she turned herself in, spoke only twice in 400 days and did not try to make excuses, said she was sorry and said she felt guilty she did not put a stop to it. What more can you ask for when the deed is already done.



It's too bad Hillary Clinton doesn't have the integrity to "come clean". It could help her be an acceptable Presidential candidate again.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 12:06 AM
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originally posted by: xBWOMPx
The media has an agenda and i see this, the biggest effect its had on our country is the fuel of hate, division, anger. Never anything good just constant negative articles thats been proven to make people angry and down eachothers throats...



Ninety-percent of the U.S. Media are anti-America terrorists. You don't have to be "violent" to be a terrorist.

Simply sewing and fanning societal discord on a grand scale, is more devastating than any terrorist bomb, or mass poisoning, or planes into skyscrapers, can ever be.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 12:24 AM
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a reply to: xBWOMPx
I do not see the word "conservative" being used in the article, because that would obviously be incorrect to describe her.
Using the word "socialist" does not necessarily mean "left winger".
The world "socialist" gets nullified when one teams the word with "nationalist", which is now a right-wing designation.
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
Again, Nazi's are "National Socialists". The nationalism nullifies the word "socialist". Fascism is an extreme right-wing ideology and Nazi's lean towards it.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 12:34 AM
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a reply to: xBWOMPx

I do not think that you know what the term "nationalsozialist" really means.
Hitler introduced the "sozialist" as a tool to include the workers by trying to capture the slogans the SPD (Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands), which was the go-to vote for many of them.

Hitler wanted to span a wide net, he wanted to get as many people as possible under his motives, although the truth was hidden in his book - hidden in the sense that nearly nobody read it before 1939..

Hitler's Nationalsozialistische Partei Deutschlands (NSDAP) was strictly nationalistic, antisemitic and had no sense of "socialism" at all in it. The only parts of "socialism" inside were that Hitler started large working programs (the Autobahn, for example) which gave a lot of people work - something they were missing in the prior years.

They weren't conservative because they fought the Russians, that is nonsense.
They even didn't fight the Russians because they were conservatives, although there are interfering motives to it.
The first attack was against Poland, "to reclaim German soil!".
The next attack was against Belgium and the Netherlands, if I remember this correctly.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 12:37 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

It's too bad Hillary Clinton doesn't have the integrity to "come clean". It could help her be an acceptable Presidential candidate again.

Maybe she really does have a memory problem. Maybe she tried to help Haiti, but made bad decisions. If Comey wasn't creating constant suspicion about her fitness to be President, she would have won.
Hannity stopped talking about Uranium One, because Trump is about to do something way worse with the Russians.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 12:53 AM
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a reply to: xBWOMPx

You really can't compare the US and Europe on politics. From the US perspective Nazis would be left from a European point of view they are right wing. For Example, Bernie Sanders is considered far left in the US but in Europe, he is a centrist. This was caused by the United States rejecting European values after independence. And the first Americans tended to be people fleeing religious persecution. They tended to be groups like the Amish who believed in gods law. So early on the right was established in the US off strict moral standards based on the bible. You can't really place Nazis into US politics they just dont fit well on either side. just realize Nazis did not like communists and considered them an enemy.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 12:55 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

So Thoughtcrime is here, eh?



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 12:58 AM
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a reply to: xBWOMPx

The Nazis are far right. Have always been; that the American right wing has become unhappy with the realities of the world doesn't change that.


originally posted by: xBWOMPx
I honestly dont know who this woman is, never heard of her and my prayers go out to the victims families, there is no justice good enough to be served to pay for the death of those victims but at least she is caught!



So, you don't know anything about the woman, about her ideology, about her history, about ... anything, you just know that because she's a Nazi and because that's described (quite accurately) as far-right ... you think this is fake news.

Yep.
edit on 12-7-2018 by Gryphon66 because: Noting



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 01:03 AM
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originally posted by: DeepStateFlunkie
a reply to: xBWOMPx
I do not see the word "conservative" being used in the article, because that would obviously be incorrect to describe her.
Using the word "socialist" does not necessarily mean "left winger".
The world "socialist" gets nullified when one teams the word with "nationalist", which is now a right-wing designation.
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
Again, Nazi's are "National Socialists". The nationalism nullifies the word "socialist". Fascism is an extreme right-wing ideology and Nazi's lean towards it.


I never said the word conservative was in it. I actually went to libraries and learned my history the right way. Theres so much blah blah blah on the internet you can find false from fact condricting itself... anyway



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 01:04 AM
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Nope.

Right wing politics everywhere begins with being statist advances to nationalism and ends in totalitarianism.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 01:04 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: xBWOMPx

The Nazis are far right. Have always been; that the American right wing has become unhappy with the realities of the world doesn't change that.


originally posted by: xBWOMPx
I honestly dont know who this woman is, never heard of her and my prayers go out to the victims families, there is no justice good enough to be served to pay for the death of those victims but at least she is caught!



So, you don't know anything about the woman, about her ideology, about her history, about ... anything, you just know that because she's a Nazi and because that's described (quite accurately) as far-right ... you think this is fake news.

Yep.


Misleading titles, you obviously dont understand the impact. Not about the story.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 01:06 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Kharron
a reply to: xBWOMPx

I'm not seeing it that way. The article actually left me feeling that, even though they did some terrible things, she turned herself in, spoke only twice in 400 days and did not try to make excuses, said she was sorry and said she felt guilty she did not put a stop to it. What more can you ask for when the deed is already done.



It's too bad Hillary Clinton doesn't have the integrity to "come clean". It could help her be an acceptable Presidential candidate again.


LMFAO, you win comment of the night award, congratulations you 100 points awesomer!



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 01:07 AM
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a reply to: xBWOMPx

On the contrary, I understand exactly what your issue is and why you think this quite straightforward story is "fake news."

You don't accept that Nazis, whether in Europe, America or wherever they are found, are right-wing.

I base that on the fact that you stated, clearly, that you don't know ANYTHING about the woman ... you just know that she wasn't far right.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 01:08 AM
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originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Kharron
a reply to: xBWOMPx

I'm not seeing it that way. The article actually left me feeling that, even though they did some terrible things, she turned herself in, spoke only twice in 400 days and did not try to make excuses, said she was sorry and said she felt guilty she did not put a stop to it. What more can you ask for when the deed is already done.



It's too bad Hillary Clinton doesn't have the integrity to "come clean". It could help her be an acceptable Presidential candidate again.


LMFAO, you win comment of the night award, congratulations you 100 points awesomer!


Yeah, nothing like a drive-by Hillary bashing in a thread about how Nazis aren't right-wing, eh?




posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 01:11 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Kharron
a reply to: xBWOMPx

I'm not seeing it that way. The article actually left me feeling that, even though they did some terrible things, she turned herself in, spoke only twice in 400 days and did not try to make excuses, said she was sorry and said she felt guilty she did not put a stop to it. What more can you ask for when the deed is already done.



It's too bad Hillary Clinton doesn't have the integrity to "come clean". It could help her be an acceptable Presidential candidate again.


LMFAO, you win comment of the night award, congratulations you 100 points awesomer!


Yeah, nothing like a drive-by Hillary bashing in a thread about how Nazis aren't right-wing, eh?



Blah blah blah, i honestly dont care about feelings cuz thick skin thats why. Idc to argue tonight. I know a lot of you are not going to understand or get it, it'll fly over your heads and thats cool. But carewemust is on the same page, atleast some one does. MURICA PEW PEW PEW



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 01:14 AM
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Well, the media would not be effective if not for those that relish the divisive messages, both left wing idiots and right wing idiots eat it up..just idiots period.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 01:17 AM
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originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Kharron
a reply to: xBWOMPx

I'm not seeing it that way. The article actually left me feeling that, even though they did some terrible things, she turned herself in, spoke only twice in 400 days and did not try to make excuses, said she was sorry and said she felt guilty she did not put a stop to it. What more can you ask for when the deed is already done.



It's too bad Hillary Clinton doesn't have the integrity to "come clean". It could help her be an acceptable Presidential candidate again.


LMFAO, you win comment of the night award, congratulations you 100 points awesomer!


Yeah, nothing like a drive-by Hillary bashing in a thread about how Nazis aren't right-wing, eh?



Blah blah blah, i honestly dont care about feelings cuz thick skin thats why. Idc to argue tonight. I know a lot of you are not going to understand or get it, it'll fly over your heads and thats cool. But carewemust is on the same page, atleast some one does. MURICA PEW PEW PEW


Feelings? Who is talking about feelings?

Nothing you nor anything anyone else has said "flies over" anyone's heads. You're both hyper-nationalistic, which puts you both on the far right of the political spectrum as such things go.

So keep making those video games sounds, friend. That really identifies your level of thought.



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