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Being an AMERICAN is Now Being White Supremicist?

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posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 12:27 AM
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a reply to: roshambo

America didn't take to kindly to the White Supremacist attitude of Papa John's founder.


Papa John's founder John Schnatter has resigned as chairman of the board.

The company made the announcement late Wednesday, hours after Schnatter apologized for using a racial slur (the N-word)during a conference call in May.
More at: abcnews.go.com...




posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 02:01 AM
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a reply to: roshambo

These days, demonizing the opposition is the ONLY tactic of the Left. Being white, patriotic, and in favor or borders does NOT make one racist. That's what they want people to believe, though.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 03:03 AM
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a reply to: olaru12

When a stranger lives with you in your land, it is implied they have permission to be there, and therefore you should treat them with respect.

If they, however, break into your house and raid your cupboards, you don't give them a bed and an allowance.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 03:03 AM
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a reply to: roshambo

From your source...


The Saratoga posters led people to the white supremacist group, Patriot Front


Did you read the article you linked to?



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 03:53 AM
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It's as if taking pride in your heritage is supposed to be a bad thing.
White supremacy is taking pride in one's heritage.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 04:11 AM
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Its exactly threads like this in my view that are why ATS is going to the dumps.

Take a look at that title, "Being an AMERICAN is now being white supremacist?" simple answer to the question is no. Nobody in their right mind would every actually believe that, its click bait quite simply. Its propaganda aimed at those with far right views. If the OP is smart enough to create a ATS account and post this then I am sure they must also be smart enough to be aware of how they have spun this article.

If you actually bother to read the article its at no point suggesting that being an American is now synonymous with being a white supremacist. The article is talking about a group called the "Patriot Front" putting up these unwanted signs in this community. The Patriot Front are clearly a group that most would identify as being a white supremacist group.

There is nothing in this article that even suggests that being American is the same as being a white supremacist, the OP has spun this in a rather twisted way to provide further propaganda for the far right of ATS. It is exactly threads like this that have members like me openly talking about the harm that a far-right ideology is having on ATS.

This kind of crap breads ignorance,

Its good to see so many other members calling the OP out for this

The OP should be ashamed.
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posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 04:13 AM
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a reply to: roshambo

There is a difference between being American, and being a white supremacist, or even an apologist for the same.

But its damned near impossible to support anti-immigration drives, without first insisting that the drivers for that migration which are caused by the US government in the main, cease BEFORE any attempt to curtail illegal immigration are made. Its also impossible to support the current administrations methods without compromising on morality, and that, if you boil it down, is what makes the difference between being merely American, and being white supremacist or an apologist for white supremacists.

If one is prepared to accept the unacceptable, defend the indefensible, and call morally and ethically objectionable things, just enforcement of law, then one is not on the side of the angels and no matter how one dresses it up, no matter what frock and lipstick one puts on ones views, they still identify one as a supremacist pig, or an appeaser of such persons.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 04:15 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

White supremacy doesn't have to be a bad thing.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 04:19 AM
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originally posted by: endercreeper
a reply to: TrueBrit

White supremacy doesn't have to be a bad thing.


The belief that you are better than another individual because of the colour of your skin is fundamentally what white supremacy is. It is a a racist ideology that goes well beyond simple pride in ones heritage because they hold views which are racist rather than just about pride in their cultural history. The clue is in the name "white supremacy", the believe that being white makes one supreme over all other races.

So by definition in my view at least, white supremacy is a bad thing unless you are someone who also believes that being white makes you superior to other races then I don't see how you could see it as anything else.
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posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 04:23 AM
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a reply to: endercreeper

All supremacist thinking is a bad thing, and can never be anything else.

Such ideologies only result in tyranny, and tyranny must be crushed wherever it is found, its advocates destroyed for the protection of all the peoples of the Earth, from the inevitable oppression which ALWAYS results therefrom.

It was that way with the Romans, it was that way with the Nazis, it was that way with the KKK and with all similar groups in all nations, all over the world. Every time, without exception. It will always be a bad thing, and always need countering without relent or remorse.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 05:03 AM
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originally posted by: endercreeper
a reply to: TrueBrit

White supremacy doesn't have to be a bad thing.






Supremacist, think about that and it's implications, then add white supremacist and it's gets ugly....

How would you feel about a group of black supremacists?



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 05:15 AM
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Why do racist act like they don't use the illegal immigrant issue as a channel through which to express their racism? You don't care for legal immigrants either. You will call them the same racial slur as the illegal one. The only reason why you are so passionate about this particular issue is because it offers the mask. A mask of patriotism and 'justice' while expressing your odious racialist views.


You are transparent. Go somewhere.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 05:23 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: roshambo

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: roshambo

No.
Though it does place oneself in the unenviable position of siding with avowed racists.


Hence, if you aren't a racist or white supremacist, but do believe in the statement on this poster, then you may as well be racist or white supremacist, right?
Lose. See what's going on here......


It almost makes you think that this racist group is serving the leftists. That would make the leftists racist, being against themselves. . . .

Now my head hurts.


Yeah, that gave me a bit of a headache.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 05:28 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

Its purely a response against socioeconomic pressure.

Same in America.

The KKK was at its height as the pains from Reconstruction were felt the hardest. Someone has to be blamed.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 05:43 AM
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a reply to: roshambo

It's all part of the insanity. I put a huge chunk of the blame on Obama.

Obama had 8 years to make race a non-issue in this country, as it should be. Instead he used his time to make it cool for blacks to think of themselves as victims, to promote racism against whites, and to promote hate against law enforcement.

The rest of the blame is on Democrats, who have somehow twisted nationalism and border control into a race issue. They have brainwashed the public and are using the media, such as the article in this OP, to continue the agenda.



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 05:54 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: roshambo

No.
Though it does place oneself in the unenviable position of siding with avowed racists.


I get so sick and tired that those who want to defend their point use "well it was said, done , supported, contributed to, ect by a racist, sexist, criminal, nazi, whatever" so its bad .

Lets apply this logic to more that a topic (in this case enforcing immigration laws / no open boarders) , cause, saying, view, ect someone doesn't like

the KKK uses toilets, toilet paper, shops at grocery stores, uses the internet, goes to doctors, goes to restaurant, and even buys cars of all types.

so by this logic we are racist if we use the toilet, toilet paper, grocery shop, use the internet, goes to a restaurant , see a doctor and buys a kia.

so we cant do those things because they do

we cant help the poor because they catholic church does and they had some priests who were child molesters.

we cant protest peacefully because the nazi protested .

I can go on but you see the silliness of this argument.

Look judge the idea on its merits , not who specifically may support it or use it.

just because bad people may do the same ....DOESN'T MAKE YOU A SUPPORTER OR MEMBER OF THEM.

Scrounger



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 05:56 AM
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originally posted by: FelisOrion
Why do racist act like they don't use the illegal immigrant issue as a channel through which to express their racism? You don't care for legal immigrants either. You will call them the same racial slur as the illegal one. The only reason why you are so passionate about this particular issue is because it offers the mask. A mask of patriotism and 'justice' while expressing your odious racialist views.


You are transparent. Go somewhere.


and you use racism to mask supporting LAWBREAKERS .
under the mask of tolerance and justice

see how your logic is turned against you?

sucks doesnt it and it is just as BS.

scrounger



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 06:06 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

most are not supporting anti immigration drives.... it is supporting ILLEGAL immigration "drives"

the problem is the left and supporters of ILLEGAL immigration want to remove the word ILLEGAL and/or make the term legal and illegal the same.

If someone is against LEGAL sensible immigration that is wrong no matter what flag they fly.

but that not what they are debating is it nor are they even attempting to differentiate that.

the debate isnt "white supremacist against legal immigration and anyone who is against LEGAL immigration is a racist"

they don't differentiate and claim any immigration stance is racist

aka play the race card and hope people will agree with them out of fear guilt by association

scrounger



posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 06:15 AM
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a reply to: roshambo




This is very dangerous thought alignment for the emotionally deciding citizens.
Thoughts?


WTF. Emotionally deciding?
What is this, a fcking love affair?

How can you even ponder thoughts with emotions running high?
How do you even do that?



3. since when is being AMERICAN being a white supremacist


Since it's birth?

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posted on Jul, 12 2018 @ 06:20 AM
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a reply to: FelisOrion

Yup, it's a legitimate message put up by an extremist group to try and gain new followers, radicalize people and pass themselves off as acceptable in society. They can go eat a bowl of dicks.




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