Rap Sheet: ***258*** Acts of Media-Approved Violence and Harassment Against Trump Supporters

a reply to: DBCowboy

ya, nice try yourself...
tell ya what, find a valid news site saying this and I might believe it...

but, I don't see any validity in a site that has for a title of an article anything like
"LEZ BE HONEST: Here’s Why These Two Chunky Monkey Lesbians Will NEVER Be The Parents Of The Year"

the guy seems to know less about this story than I do...
the old man wasn't here trying to get citizenship, so no, he didn't speak english.. he came here about twice a year to visit his family, then he went home. even if what the story says is true... the crazy lady seems to have easily neutralized any threat the old man posed with the dang brick she hit him with, more than a few times is sounds like, on his head..
so why didn't she call the cops instead calling more friends over to inflict more damage?
but, ya, nice try at damage control there...

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: xuenchen

I saw the list.

Was even going to use it when other members scoffed at my assertion that it is a growing trend, but then I thought, "Why bother?"



The violence will continue and those that adhere to this ideology will continue to marginalize and minimalize each and every attack, all the while passively encouraging more attacks under the guise of "free speech" or some such nonsense.

The mid-term elections should be very telling since not even leftist pundits are crowing about a "blue wave" any longer.
The only positive from this is that unlike Nazi Germany, these losers don't have the numbers nor the strength to push this too far.

Thats the thing though. If you can show enough proof it still doesn't matter. The lefties here will answer the same way they always do:
We aren't all like that.
Its not me - its the other guy.
The right does it too.

They intentionally ignore the "growing trend" statement and instead straw man with a lame all or none argument.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Just look at the post above yours.

Someone comes in with a CNN article implying that Trump supporters are beating old Spanish men.

When I show evidence to the contrary, they double down.

It's like they're following a script regardless of the facts put before them.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Yeah, but 'pushing it too far' is in the subjective eye of the beholder, but more importantly, in the interpretation of the victims of this behavior.

I know plenty of women, for instance, who carry concealed firearms, and quite honestly, some of them would not hesitate to use it against people instilling fear in them. It only takes one person, let alone a group or mob, to make someone fear for their life in any given situation.

There will come a point where some of these asshats will get shot, and they will be justified defensive shootings, and then that will just make them even angrier.

While I agree that they will never take over like what happened in Germany, they still have enough numbers and emotion-driven people to consistently and increasingly take things too far. When defensive responses start happening, I hope that none of them come crying to me for pity.

a reply to: DBCowboy

first, one article from a website that I don't recognize, and find it rather suspicious based on the other articles on that website isn't evidence!!

and, I ain't implying that "trump supporters" beat the guy, but rather....
racists did!! and, it does seem that the racists, white separatists, the anti-immigrants fall into the right's camp... sorry...
just like of that list that was presented, most of the incidences that refer to actual violence mentions antifa....
which, according to the right falls in the left''s camp...

but, oh..."there's a growing trend towards violence on the left" and why is the left so violent and hateful???
where the heck have yous been??? both sides have been having a "trend towards violence" with it's hateful rhetoric for awhile!!!
and when you own camp has idiots running down crowds of people in the street and beating up 95 year old men... and a president who took it upon himself to create many more "unaccompanied" kids, many who are much younger that what the system had previously had to accommodate... seemingly without any thought on how they would return them,
well... ya, those poor people in the trump administration, getting heckled in public...
oh why is the left so hateful!!

a reply to: dawnstar


Like I said, a script.

You are directly inferring that the beating was due to a Trump supporter.


You failed at the accusation and don't have the courage to state you were wrong.

a reply to: SlapMonkey


They are hoping one of their own gets shot so they can cry about banning guns again.

a reply to: dawnstar

I have to ask--is this post about comparing attacks, or just about pointing out the mass number of extremist-liberal attacks?

I have to ask--did the OP or anyone else say that it doesn't happen from both sides?

I have to ask--are you just trying to elicit an emotional reaction because the victim in that particular situation was 95, whereas the majority of the time they are not that old?

I have to ask--what is your point?

This type of behavior is abhorrent from all sides, and there's no excuse for it at all. But that doesn't negate the reality of the amount of attacks that have happened that are listed in the link in the OP.

As for the woman who attacked the 92-year-old...you don't even know her political leanings, so why even pretend that it's pertinent to this thread? She could just be some bigoted liberal (there are plenty of them) who has a beef with anyone who is not black.

ETA: Since you're complaining about sources (and it's literally just an internet search away when you search the victim's name), here's a CBSNews story that notes her claim that the victim tried to touch her daughter.

The witness said she took her phone out and got a photo of the woman, who appears to be holding a piece of concrete as her child stands nearby. Rodriguez is not seen in the photo.

"When I take the picture, she said, 'Oh, he tried to touch my girl,'" the woman identified as Catherine told CBS Los Angeles. "I saw everything, this is a lie. And when the guys came, they hit him in the face, his body, everything."

A simple internet search...let's not be lazy or employ the genetic logical fallacy (disregarding something only because of the source).

a reply to: DBCowboy

Man, I wouldn't doubt that for a second.

I have my conspiratorially driven concerns about why shooting seem to ramp up during election years--at least the ones that garner emotional responses.

a reply to: DBCowboy

If I could teach a dog to fart on command, I could be the head policy maker for the DNC.

HMM I did not see the vegas shooting on that list..

a reply to: SlapMonkey

ya, and the 95 year old man said he didn't...
even if he did accidentally touch the girl...
like I said... she managed to put him down and probably did most of that damage to his face herself, before she enlisted the help of her friends... thus negating any danger to her daughter.... so why enlist their aide if her intention was to protect her child? why not call the cops, why not pick up your daughter and get her safely away? why expose that little girl so such brutal violence...

and by the way... all those antifa hoods that yous like to list as being dems, or "left"...
only many of them it seems are more anarchists...
which means they would be against the dems as well as the republicans.

and, my point is simply this....
there seems to be a daily deluge of these "the left are dangerous", "the left are violent", "the left are filled with hate"... ect... which it seems is then used as a justification for the right to come in and say all the hateful crap they wish about the left.
I can't help but wonder why that is...
and the only thing I can think of is that they want a good scapegoat when they light the fuse to this powder keg we are sitting on!!

so ya... I am gonna keep reminding people that the right are far from innocent in all this!! ask heather heyer if you don't believe me.... or wait a minute, you can't can you.... SHE'S DEAD!!!

a reply to: dawnstar

I eagerly await your thread "Rap Sheet: ***259*** Acts of Media-Approved Violence and Harassment by Trump Supporters"

Until then its seems youve left your viewpoint lacking.


To appeal to the right you need at the very least some facts

Sometimes you gotta bash the fash, ya know?

If you're going to support a fascist regime and insist that others rights are either non-existent or don't apply then you're gonna have a bad time.

If you're going to quietly stand by while other supporters march in the night with torches and shout neo-nazi slogans, you're gonna have a bad time.

If you think you're better than anyone based on your geographic location of birth and applaud stripping citizenship from people who already went through the rigors and costs associated with earning the rights that you were born with, you're gonna have a bad time.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: dawnstar

A passing motorist, also Hispanic, stopped and took a picture of the black woman. She also heard the woman tell the Hispanic man, “Go back to your country, why are you here?”

The witness asked the black woman why she was assaulting the Hispanic man and she replied, “Oh, he tried to touch my girl.” Let’s assume the black mother thought that the Hispanic man was trying to sexually assault her young daughter.

downtrend.com...




Nice try though. . .

Probably didn't vote for Trump.

Incidentally, Black and Hispanic relations have always been strained, and were made more so under Obama.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: DBCowboy

ya, nice try yourself...
tell ya what, find a valid news site saying this and I might believe it...

but, I don't see any validity in a site that has for a title of an article anything like
"LEZ BE HONEST: Here’s Why These Two Chunky Monkey Lesbians Will NEVER Be The Parents Of The Year"

the guy seems to know less about this story than I do...
the old man wasn't here trying to get citizenship, so no, he didn't speak english.. he came here about twice a year to visit his family, then he went home. even if what the story says is true... the crazy lady seems to have easily neutralized any threat the old man posed with the dang brick she hit him with, more than a few times is sounds like, on his head..
so why didn't she call the cops instead calling more friends over to inflict more damage?
but, ya, nice try at damage control there...

The article you posted said nothing about Trump supporters, which was your goal.

Now you are in damage control because of a picture.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: SlapMonkey

ya, and the 95 year old man said he didn't...
even if he did accidentally touch the girl...
like I said... she managed to put him down and probably did most of that damage to his face herself, before she enlisted the help of her friends... thus negating any danger to her daughter.... so why enlist their aide if her intention was to protect her child? why not call the cops, why not pick up your daughter and get her safely away? why expose that little girl so such brutal violence...

and by the way... all those antifa hoods that yous like to list as being dems, or "left"...
only many of them it seems are more anarchists...
which means they would be against the dems as well as the republicans.

and, my point is simply this....
there seems to be a daily deluge of these "the left are dangerous", "the left are violent", "the left are filled with hate"... ect... which it seems is then used as a justification for the right to come in and say all the hateful crap they wish about the left.
I can't help but wonder why that is...
and the only thing I can think of is that they want a good scapegoat when they light the fuse to this powder keg we are sitting on!!

so ya... I am gonna keep reminding people that the right are far from innocent in all this!! ask heather heyer if you don't believe me.... or wait a minute, you can't can you.... SHE'S DEAD!!!

Then why do Antifa spout all the democrat talking points?

They certainly don't align with freedom of speech and the right to peacefully assemble.

originally posted by: links234
Sometimes you gotta bash the fash, ya know?

If you're going to support a fascist regime and insist that others rights are either non-existent or don't apply then you're gonna have a bad time.

Fascism aligns closely with socialism.

If you're going to quietly stand by while other supporters march in the night with torches and shout neo-nazi slogans, you're gonna have a bad time.

We don't.

If you think you're better than anyone based on your geographic location of birth and applaud stripping citizenship from people who already went through the rigors and costs associated with earning the rights that you were born with, you're gonna have a bad time.

If they are citizens then they are Americans, show me where this is happening.

a reply to: Butterfinger

I'll leave you this....

Over the last decade, 71% of domestic extremist related killings in the US were linked to right-wing extremists, while Islamic extremists committed 26% of the killings, the report notes. An Islamic extremist committed the single deadliest incident in 2017: the New York City vehicle ramming attack killed eight people. Left-wing extremists and those who didn’t fall in the previous two categories carried out the other 3% of deaths. 2017 was the second year in a row in which black nationalists committed murders in the US.

qz.com...

and here's another link, if you are interested in some of the incidences that took place..

www.newamerica.org...

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: SlapMonkey

ya, and the 95 year old man said he didn't...

I didn't say that I believe the woman--in fact, I really don't, but I wasn't there. But anyone willing to attack a 92-year-old man with a block of concrete and tell him to go back to his own country generally doesn't garner a lot of trust from me.

In any event, I'm not defending her, as you seem to think that I am, I'm just wondering why you brought this story into the mix when they haven't even found the assailant and we know nothing about her politics or motives behind the attack, other than her seemingly flippant claim that he tried to touch her daughter.

and by the way... all those antifa hoods that yous like to list as being dems, or "left"...
only many of them it seems are more anarchists...
which means they would be against the dems as well as the republicans.

WTF are you talking about? This has nothing to do with my comment to you.

and, my point is simply this....
there seems to be a daily deluge of these "the left are dangerous", "the left are violent", "the left are filled with hate"... ect... which it seems is then used as a justification for the right to come in and say all the hateful crap they wish about the left.

"Seems to be" doesn't always equate to reality. I have not read any (and if I have, I have dismissed them as stupidity) people using leftist violent protests/riots as justification for the same from the right. And again, if there are some, they are the extreme minority and should be disregarded, as that's not a widely held belief or line of thought from what I can see.

I can't help but wonder why that is...
and the only thing I can think of is that they want a good scapegoat when they light the fuse to this powder keg we are sitting on!!

so ya... I am gonna keep reminding people that the right are far from innocent in all this!! ask heather heyer if you don't believe me.... or wait a minute, you can't can you.... SHE'S DEAD!!!

So, I ask again (and will bold it once more): Why are you equating the incident that you initially shared and to which you linked as being violence from the right? You don't even know the woman's politics. At all.

So, the only conclusion that the rest of us are able to make is that:

A. You're being intentionally dishonest and presumptive just to try and distract from the topic of this thread, or

B. You didn't actually think about what you were doing before you posted the story that has nothing to do with nor anything that negates the subject of the OP.

So, which is it, intentional dishonesty, or thoughtless posting?