posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 04:18 PM
a reply to: Seede
originally posted by: Seede
I believe you are mistaken. The Darwinian evolution relies entirely on the the very start of life such as exists today. There are several concepts
of evolution which are taught in universities but the evolution we are discussing here is that of Darwin's theory.
Ugh...I don't understand in what way I can explain this to you so that it gets through. EVOLUTION DOESN'T DEAL WITH THE ORIGIN OF LIFE. THAT IS A
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FIELD.
You keep talking about "relies on". You go on and on and on and on about it.That doesn't mean anything!
My ability to read paperbacks relies on the production of paper, yes. But my reading books would in no way be affected if paper was created by magic
space wizards, or rat droppings mixed with orangutan snot, or smashed up trees. MY READING OF BOOKS DOES NOT MAKE ANY STATEMENT ABOUT HOW BOOKS ARE
The theory of gravity relies on the existence of matter, yes. But the results and findings of that theory makes no mention of the origin of matter. It
is not relevant to its findings or observations if matter magically appeared everytime a unicorn farted, or every time a space goat sneezed, or every
time an explosion in spacetime occured. ANY ONE OF THOSE ORIGINS OF MATTER COULD BE TRUE, AND NOT ONE OF THEM WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE THEORY OF
GRAVITY AND WHAT THE THEORY OF GRAVITY SAYS.
The theory of evolution relies on the existence of life, yes. But the theory of evolution makes no claims about how life originally came into
existence. The observations and findings that the theory of evolution is based on and what it fortells, wouldn't change one whit if life was created
when Gandalf punched Sauron in his one ring, or if Chuck Norris came back from the future and copulated with a bunch of rocks, or if space aliens sent
bacteria from Mars, or if lightning struck a muddy radiated pool near some lava. ANY ONE OF THOSE ORIGINS OF LIFE COULD BE TRUE, AND NOT ONE OF THEM
WOULD MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION AND WHAT THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION SAYS.
Whew....now, btw, you're wrong about everything else as well.
originally posted by: Seede
Actually this is not an argument on my part and I really could care less on how others view a source. The entire issue is a matter of theoretical or
theological perspectives of various beliefs. An example of this is the orthodox Hebrews view as is stated in their bible which clearly states that
their God made man in their God's image and after His likeness and not in the likeness of non-hominoid simians or like minded species.
It's not the orthodox hebrew view. Biblical literalism is the view of only some haredi rabbis. The rest of Orthodox Judaism (and Judaism in general)
is that the importance of the ethical significance rather than factual significance of scripture, quoting Maimonides saying that not everything in
Genesis is meant to be taken literally, and that if science came up with something that was shown to be true and conflicting with understanding of
scripture, the scripture would have to be reinterpreted.