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Woman Shoots Man Trying To Steal Car With Her Kids Inside: Police

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posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 06:38 PM
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originally posted by: seaswine
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

I try to avoid these heated threads whenever possible, but I can't let this one go.

You say she could've prevented this situation from happening by "simply removing keys from the ignition". Seriously?

I doubt you're a person who lacks intellect, which is why I'll just say your statement is wrong on so many levels; I think you know that.

As if anyone has ever left their keys in the ignition
Most believe they would never be put in this situation .
This one was prepared if they were.




posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 06:43 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: Krakatoa

Maybe next time she just shouldn't leave the keys in the ignition... At the very least, she'd save a fortune on years of therapy for her kids that witnessed it.

Or are you saying he was not in the wrong here?


Yeah, obviously that's what I'm saying... Its clearly a completely rational accusation.


Guy jumps in a car to steal it, drives off with kids in the car, Mom jumps in and says "stop." He doesn't; she shoots him. And you are saying he is the victim?


I never said anything about the car thief being the victim.


Oh, OK. This is what was said:

Krakatoa: Or are you saying he was not in the wrong here?

And you said: Yeah, obviously that's what I'm saying... Its clearly a completely rational accusation.

Thanks for the clarification.


Yeah... sometimes I just forget that some people don't comprehend obvious sarcasm.


Not so obvious, but precisely why I asked: " Please tell me I'm not understanding you, or that I failed to pick up on your sarcasm here. "



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: seaswine

Agreed completely


This is a transparent attempt to blame the victim of a crime. Was leaving her keys in the ignition the smartest thing ever? Probably not, but neither is getting drunk/doing drugs (especially around strangers) or wandering around late at night with lots of money.

That said I also agree it could have easily been kept running to keep the AC on for the kids while she took care of business. You should be able to leave your car running without some junkie carjacker/kidnapper attacking you/your kids, and I agree with you there is no way she shares any blame whatsoever

I am just grateful she empowered herself to defend her own life and the lives of her children by choosing to be an armed citizen



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: rollanotherone




So I take it you're unfamiliar with gun laws. Ok. Go read up on carrying a loaded weapon concealed and get back to me.

Did you read anywhere that the weapon was already loaded ?
I can load mine as fast as a "blink of an eye"

>Woman owns firearm for only a few hours
>Know how to load a mag, insert and rack one, one handed.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: rollanotherone

An unloaded gun makes a great paper weight, but not much else.

From the sounds of this article, sounds like the woman knows her way around a firearm.


Thank you for a voice of sanity. That is a very likely fact in this case. She did seemed trained, calm, cool, and collected in the situation. In addition, the police did not charge her at all, so another likely certainty is she had a legal license to carry it concealed and loaded (which is what a Class A CCW allows and is NOT a felony).


No snip genius. Jesus you guys wonder why the left is so hell bent on disarming. Some of you aren't even taking the time to read what is being posted. Maybe the idiot liberals are right.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 07:55 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: rollanotherone
While I like the presmise of this story, something doesn't sit well with "purchased the handgun hours earlier" and had it loaded and ready to go. I'm all for concealed carry and pro 2A, but that little addition to the story doesn't start well with me. On top of the fact she was able to draw on the assailant so easily. This story sounds too good to be true.


So, you would advocate that after you purchase something, you need to wait a specified amount of time before using it? WTH kind of childish notion is that? Please, explain this thought process to me,as I simply cannot fathom such a thing as that.

Sorry, you cannot drive that car until you wait a week/month with it sitting in your driveway....it would be suspicious otherwise.

SMFH

So I take it you're unfamiliar with gun laws. Ok. Go read up on carrying a loaded weapon concealed and get back to me.


Which laws? What state?
Perhaps my own CCW license doesn't give me an in-depth knowledge of the process according to you?

Your statement was laughable. Each state is different, or does that not compute in your mind?

Yup. Just as I thought. Read my other post where I said it varies state by state. Jesus. Keep arguing with PRO 2A people. When we fight with each other, you might as well hand your firearms over to the leftists. Just so you know, I'm on your side. People like you shouldn't own firearms. Just looking to fire off on people without taking a second to "check your backstop".


Oh, really? So sorry you got triggered. Yeah, your opinion about me is worth as much as that stuff I scraped off my shoe the other day.
Your original post question her motives. Because you cannot believe that it is OK to purchase a firearm legally, load it, and carry it with you in the car, legally, that same day? Really? And that she knew how to use it already? Ever THINK she was experienced already?

Had you CLARIFIED your position early on, there would have been no misunderstanding. After all, ensuring the line of fire is clear before YOU spout off is irrelevant, right?

SMFH...even more.


Holy Christ. No wonder the lefties on ATS hate debating you idiots. You make zero sense, make up and misconstrue what anyone says. Holy crap, I actually had to see it for myself to believe it. Ok. Yup. I'm totally saying what youre implying. There. Happy now kiddo? Jesus. Card carrying NRA member, CCW card holder, active in range time monthly, but yup. You got me pegged. Now, go ahead and cry "triggered snowflake". You make me laugh!




posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog



Where did you read the "fact" that the handgun was "purchased the handgun hours earlier ?" Most certainly was not in the OP link


Where did you learn to read? it most certainly was in the OP, and in the OP link!.

"Booker-Hicks told KDFW she had bought the gun for self defense only hours before the incident".

Anyway..good for her.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Yup. You make great points. But, I said it here before, if my child is in the car, I dont get more than 3 feet away from my vehicle. And I employ active awareness, constantly checking the who, what, where, and why's of my surroundings. I've been help up at gun point before. Not a great feeling. Ever since then, it's been eyes on my surroundings at all times.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: seaswine
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

I try to avoid these heated threads whenever possible, but I can't let this one go.

You say she could've prevented this situation from happening by "simply removing keys from the ignition". Seriously?

I doubt you're a person who lacks intellect, which is why I'll just say your statement is wrong on so many levels; I think you know that.

As if anyone has ever left their keys in the ignition
Most believe they would never be put in this situation .
This one was prepared if they were.

I just wish she'd had the firearm on her. Good she was able to make it work, but you shouldn't have to wrestle your frearm in that kind or situation. I hope she invests in an IWB holster.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: rollanotherone

An unloaded gun makes a great paper weight, but not much else.

From the sounds of this article, sounds like the woman knows her way around a firearm.

Yeah. That's how you make an argument. Reasonable. Thanks for that. Other people on this thread, not so much. I've only had the article to base my thoughts off of. I just wish she'd have bought a holster when she bought the firearm. The guy could've made off with a car, kids, AND a loaded firearm. That would've been a criminal hat trick.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 08:11 PM
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I haven't seen mention of whether it as a revolver or semi auto with a magazine.

Either way, she could have had it loaded in the glove box. If a revolver, all she had to done was use the trigger.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: rollanotherone

In my state, we don't need a license. Anyone can concealed-carry. So anyone having a loaded gun in their glovebox, purse, or wherever would NOT be a problem as long as the gun was purchased legally. Now, do you know what the law says about concealed carrying in Texas?



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: rollanotherone

In texad your car is an extension of your home basically. You can have a loaded gun no problem. An unloaded gun is just a paperweight



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 08:47 PM
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originally posted by: riiver
a reply to: rollanotherone

In my state, we don't need a license. Anyone can concealed-carry. So anyone having a loaded gun in their glovebox, purse, or wherever would NOT be a problem as long as the gun was purchased legally. Now, do you know what the law says about concealed carrying in Texas?


Posted it earlier in the thread.

Concealed weapon (must be concealed if no CHL) in a vehicle is legal.

edit:

For this very situation.
edit on 7/8/2018 by roadgravel because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 08:51 PM
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In Texas, as far as I have ever found in the statutes, there is no difference whether a firearm is loaded or unloaded as the law goes.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 08:55 PM
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originally posted by: riiver
a reply to: rollanotherone

In my state, we don't need a license. Anyone can concealed-carry. So anyone having a loaded gun in their glovebox, purse, or wherever would NOT be a problem as long as the gun was purchased legally. Now, do you know what the law says about concealed carrying in Texas?

Man. I love that. Here in NV it's pretty effed. Nothing like CA and we are a "will issue" state. But our laws prevent us from carrying anything concealed in your vehicle. Even after purchasing a firearm, it's recommended to leave it out in the open on the front seat, unloaded. Unless you have a CCW, then your allowed to conceal. BUT, we ARE an open carry state. No license for that. And I appreciate that.

ETA sounds like your state has read and understands the Second Amendment. Must be nice.
edit on 8-7-2018 by rollanotherone because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa


This story warmed my heart! Don't mess with Texas or Texans. That guy was really stupid! From what I hear, 90% of Texans carry a gun, and know how to use it. God Bless em!



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 09:09 PM
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originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: rollanotherone




So I take it you're unfamiliar with gun laws. Ok. Go read up on carrying a loaded weapon concealed and get back to me.

Did you read anywhere that the weapon was already loaded ?
I can load mine as fast as a "blink of an eye"

>Woman owns firearm for only a few hours
>Know how to load a mag, insert and rack one, one handed.

Woman has owned previous firearm and/or been practicing at the local range .
You know ranges and some pawn shops have firearms to try and a range right there , yes ?(and instructors if needed)
No , you didn't
You just assumed.
And posted an inane post from that assumption.
I wish folks would think before they assumed that they knew what they didn't know.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 09:10 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Krakatoa


This story warmed my heart! Don't mess with Texas or Texans. That guy was really stupid! From what I hear, 90% of Texans carry a gun, and know how to use it. God Bless em!

That's actually kind of scary. Seeing as how CA liberals are trying to take over Texas. Hopefully it means more liberals opening their eyes and enjoying the freedom the 2A gives. That or it just means a bunch of unhinged loony libs will be carrying. I just wish every state adhered to the Constitution and would not erode our amended rights.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: rollanotherone




So I take it you're unfamiliar with gun laws. Ok. Go read up on carrying a loaded weapon concealed and get back to me.

Did you read anywhere that the weapon was already loaded ?
I can load mine as fast as a "blink of an eye"

>Woman owns firearm for only a few hours
>Know how to load a mag, insert and rack one, one handed.

Woman has owned previous firearm and/or been practicing at the local range .
You know ranges and some pawn shops have firearms to try and a range right there , yes ?(and instructors if needed)
No , you didn't
You just assumed.
And posted an inane post from that assumption.
I wish folks would think before they assumed that they knew what they didn't know.

Says the guy who didn't read either the OP or the linked story.
In any case, I'm glad the woman was in TX. They do the 2A correctly.



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