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Why We (as Asians) Hate the Progressive Left and Cultural Marxism

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posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 05:53 PM
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originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: toysforadults

Classic liberalism is a progressive mind set. That society should build upon itself to improve, not stay stagnant with out dated tradition and ways of life.


They have lived under dictatorship, socialism, communism for centuries, American freedom is something to be proud of. If it aint broke dont fix it, pffft, outdated system pffft. If we were going to truely evolve we would create a system with no money, no powerful leaders and no military. Until then we are still the same. Blows my mind people think we are different then we were 1000 years ago, I bet we weren't any different 6000 years ago. People say we are smarter and more evolved too pffft, nobody can agree on anything and I bet if you cut the power and kill the internet you will see how fast we turn back into animals! Americas society is not improving when your taking freedoms away, America has become exactly what our forefathers fought to escape and now there are people bent on making even worse with socialism! Absolutely NOT will a country be free when you disarm the men of that nation, absolutely NOT will men be free when the government controls every aspect of your life, your pockets, your home, your church, your work! this is what we are heading to and people think we are progressing!!! PFFFFT for every law that is written there is another freedom taken from us! We need to get ugly and just remove those in power who are trying to destroy the constitution and shoot em for treason! all of them!!


What does this rant have anything to do with a classic liberal society? You're just going off on a "AMERICA F*** YEA!" mentality here.




posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

apparently you only read one reply and that was enough to confirm your bias



The term Baizuo (or white-left) was firstly introduced to Americans by Fox News, which is similar to “regressive left” in the context of western world. In China, Baizuo literally means those Europeans and Americans who speak “love and peace” everyday but do not know the difficulty of survival and the complexity of real world. Meanwhile, they also distort the spirits of left-wing and result in the reversed discrimination, aiming to appeal to political correctness. Some examples are:




For example,

People who only care about homosexual marriages and talk about this topic every day, but discriminate against or even persecute heterosexual marriages.

People who only care about minorities and talk about this topic every day, but discriminate against or even persecute majorities.

People who only care about immigrants and talk about this topic every day, but discriminate against or even persecute local people.

People who support terrorism under the banner “multiculturalism”.

Animal rights advocates who persecute human rights.


maybe you should look further than your own bias confirmation to see that there's probably than 1 perspective as there is with everything



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
OP proves that:

1. Someone made a Youtube video.

2. An "independent website" writes an article that just happens to quote from Urban Dictionary virtually word-for-word.

UD - baizuo and it's only other "citation" is to a website entirely in Chinese (Zhiho.com. )

Convenient that.

Translating (Google) it you find discontent with all White (Western) elites, not just liberals and they certainly aren't criticizing Marxism.

Go look at it for yourselves. OP is seeing what their biased article tells them to see, IMO.


I'm quoting this from the source you provided above



is a Chinese epithet meaning naive western educated person who advocates for peace and equality only to satisfy their own feeling of moral superiority. A baizuo only cares about topics such as immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment while being obsessed with political correctness to the extent that they import backwards Islamic values for the sake of multiculturalism.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Yeah.

That's the Urban Dictionary material.

(It's also what your source falsely claimed to translate from the Chinese source I linked)


edit on 8-7-2018 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 06:01 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: toysforadults

Yeah.

That's the Urban Dictionary material.



and? you used 2 forums as evidence of your point of view how is that different from Fox News, or an actual Chinese person discussing political topics on a Youtube series they do?

I'm sharing a point of view that obviously you don't agree with. they came from a Marxist culture to the west to the live American dream that they say isn't as attainable as it once was but they believe in the values of freedom because they have seen first hand what living under socialism and communism is like

I agree with them, I like freedom I like classical liberalism and rugged individualism



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

LOL ... how is it different?

Your article cited in the OP is agenda-driven trash. They pretend that they are translating a page from Chinese social media, but all they did was split up the quote I linked from Urban Dictionary.

Now, let's think about your represention of the Youtube vid. Let's even imagine that an actual Chinese person made it.

It's one video. One perspective. And based on the content, very doubtfully authentic in my opinion.

Yes, you're sharing a point of view, and I don't mean to take it away from you.

The only things I don't agree with are the implication that one person speaks for Chinese people, and the obvious hoaxing nature of your cited article in the OP.

The actual term baizuo is making fun of that "American dream" you're talking about.

(That you are unintentionally promoting a anti-white, anti-Western racist term was the ironic part to me.)
edit on 8-7-2018 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




The actual term baizuo is making fun of that "American dream" you're talking about.


what?? that doesn't even make sense I haven't read that anywhere




(That you are unintentionally promoting a anti-white, anti-Western racist term was the ironic part to me.)


the video isn't anti white at all they spoke about freedom and liking the idea of chasing the American dream while offering some criticism about the lack of family values in western culture which I agree with

I think you're commenting on something you didn't watch while making assumptions based on the word you're not analyzing correctly



The only things I don't agree with are the implication that one person speaks for Chinese people, and the obvious hoaxing nature of your cited article in the OP.


everything you've provided actually says something totally different, you misinterpret it and automatically jump to racism when they are critiquing western liberals (not classical liberals neo marxist "liberals") from their perspective

I like to hear what people from other countries think as they weren't raised in our country and may have a different point of view, something we can learn from

your inability to deviate from the racism narrative at all times is exactly one of things I don't like about neo-liberalism
edit on 8-7-2018 by toysforadults because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: ClovenSky




posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: toysforadults

Classic liberalism is a progressive mind set. That society should build upon itself to improve, not stay stagnant with out dated tradition and ways of life.


They have lived under dictatorship, socialism, communism for centuries, American freedom is something to be proud of. If it aint broke dont fix it, pffft, outdated system pffft. If we were going to truely evolve we would create a system with no money, no powerful leaders and no military. Until then we are still the same. Blows my mind people think we are different then we were 1000 years ago, I bet we weren't any different 6000 years ago. People say we are smarter and more evolved too pffft, nobody can agree on anything and I bet if you cut the power and kill the internet you will see how fast we turn back into animals! Americas society is not improving when your taking freedoms away, America has become exactly what our forefathers fought to escape and now there are people bent on making even worse with socialism! Absolutely NOT will a country be free when you disarm the men of that nation, absolutely NOT will men be free when the government controls every aspect of your life, your pockets, your home, your church, your work! this is what we are heading to and people think we are progressing!!! PFFFFT for every law that is written there is another freedom taken from us! We need to get ugly and just remove those in power who are trying to destroy the constitution and shoot em for treason! all of them!!


What does this rant have anything to do with a classic liberal society? You're just going off on a "AMERICA F*** YEA!" mentality here.


Dont care and f*uck yeah America. So what, you got beef with America?



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults


Asians have a friend in the White House now. President Trump's administration received enough Asian petitions (and Indian) to get rid of the program that encouraged colleges to admit Black/Hispanic students who had lower test scores than Asians.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 07:48 PM
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originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied

originally posted by: rollanotherone
a reply to: AScrubWhoDied

So, continue to confirm your bias and stay inside your bubble. Why branch out?


Do you see the irony? Remember back when google announced how they would tailor their results to you and how people complained that it would just be confirmation bias? I do.

Well, look at what we have here, that we just happened chanced upon a random youtube video in our feed, that happens to...wait for it....

**plot twist**

Confirm our bias.




Yeah and I get Logan Paul vids in my feed. What's your point? I think you're looking too much into this. Once, I watched the greatest story never told, now I get pro Nazi propaganda in my feed.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: toysforadults


Asians have a friend in the White House now. President Trump's administration received enough Asian petitions (and Indian) to get rid of the program that encouraged colleges to admit Black/Hispanic students who had lower test scores than Asians.


Affirmative action was bulls*hit



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: xBWOMPx

Sure do. Since your president started a trade war with Canada and said our citizens will suffer.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: xBWOMPx

Sure do. Since your president started a trade war with Canada and said our citizens will suffer.


So canada is allowed to charge our farmers but america cant charge canadian farmers? Cry me a dairy river i dont care!



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 08:38 PM
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a reply to: xBWOMPx

Then stop overproducing goods.

We have to protect our farmers to you know. Why should other countries have to bow down to run away capitalism of the states because American's don't eat enough of your own cheese and drink enough of your own milk?

These tariffs aren't put in place to screw you guys over, it's protect our industry from your over saturation of the markets. There's a reason why you dump over 200 million gallons of milk a year and the government needs to buy over 30 million of un bought dairy a year, because they are stuffing to much product at the boarders where WE DO NOT WANT IT!
And even if we broken down trade barriers, the damage has been done, we only have 36 million people, you honestly think we can't get the word out to just boycott American products? We already ruined Heinz, we can do it again.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: xBWOMPx

Then stop overproducing goods.

We have to protect our farmers to you know. Why should other countries have to bow down to run away capitalism of the states because American's don't eat enough of your own cheese and drink enough of your own milk?

These tariffs aren't put in place to screw you guys over, it's protect our industry from your over saturation of the markets. There's a reason why you dump over 200 million gallons of milk a year and the government needs to buy over 30 million of un bought dairy a year, because they are stuffing to much product at the boarders where WE DO NOT WANT IT!
And even if we broken down trade barriers, the damage has been done, we only have 36 million people, you honestly think we can't get the word out to just boycott American products? We already ruined Heinz, we can do it again.


First off, he's doing this so we do revert back to producing our own produce and goods. if you haven't been paying attention, it's working. 2nd! Im sure we consume much more then Canada just the fact we have 325 million in our population versus your 36 million BIIIIG difference! But I dont feel sorry for all those country's charging our farmers and industries for produce and materials when we haven't been doing the same. Anyways, like I said before, go cry me more of that dairy river, you didn't feel it up all the way yet.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 09:39 PM
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a reply to: xBWOMPx

Nope. You're wrong. Simple as that. The us has tariffs in place just like every country has for specific reasons. Trump wants a trade war to take down the barriers and gain the upper hand. He sreverting back to colonization tactics. Its twisted. And he's twisted your mind as well.
And clearly you don't consume enough dairy since you dump so much of it down the drain. Maybe Americans need to focus on themselves rather than dominating the rest of the world for once.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: xBWOMPx

Nope. You're wrong. Simple as that. The us has tariffs in place just like every country has for specific reasons. Trump wants a trade war to take down the barriers and gain the upper hand. He sreverting back to colonization tactics. Its twisted. And he's twisted your mind as well.
And clearly you don't consume enough dairy since you dump so much of it down the drain. Maybe Americans need to focus on themselves rather than dominating the rest of the world for once.


This dairy river is almost filled.... continue



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 09:56 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

We either have free trade or we don't.

You want to jack up the price of our goods to protect your farmers? Then we can do likewise to protect our own. Eat your own fairy and cheese and we'll eat ours.



posted on Jul, 8 2018 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Holy Cow, I'm Asian!

They got the Left down to tee.



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