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posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 03:24 PM
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originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Woodcarver

"Are you asking me to prove a negative?"

Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?

Because the concept of a null hypothesis is used differently.

There you go attempting to introduce derogatory interjections into what should be a meaningful debate.

Have you ever been tested? As it may be an idea considering the narcissism you have displayed in spades in this thread alone. x
You say you were an electrical engineer but you don’t know how to use the quote function on these boards?


Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?
I don’t know, you’re the one asking me to prove a negative? It’s your question.

Pointing out that you should know better than to ask me to prove a negative is not a derogatory remark. It is pointing out that your grasp of logic should be much higher if you are actually an electrical engineer.


Apparently you've never studied the ability of human errors and typos... Human errors are strong, I guess you missed that through not paying attention in life.
I make typos all the time I’m not worried about it. Most of them are due to me using a voice to text function on my phone.


Then dont bash others for doing the same and I dont care for your excuse to why they happen.


Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?


And why do you care so much?
Do I really need to justify my curiosity to you?

Why am I curious? Because I would like to know. Maybe I’m interested in people who claim to have abilities that seem to defy our understandings. Maybe I want to find somebody who can help me be the first to explain it in scientific terms. Perhaps I just don’t like it when people tell lies to manipulate others into believing they are special. Either way you look at it, the only way to come to any valid confirmation of these abilities whether they be magic or physiological in someway, is to study them. It is to find people who are willing to come forward and present their claims for testing. Are you against that in someway? Do you think this isn’t worth studying? Do you think I should accept everyone’s claims at face value without something to back them up?


Wow, you really are like talking to a rock. I asked "Why do you care" for "Why do you care so much about someone using quotes or their typos" not about spirituality or why your curious, I never asked you that. Stop cutting out what others write and giving an answer to a question that was never asked. Idc why your curious into spirituality. And why dont you create your own thread and make it more aware to ATS'rs instead of someone elses thread.
It’s not my fault that your words were too vague for me to get the right impression of what you were asking.


Actually, you said this EXACTLY

Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?

and I responded back with EXACTLY

And why do you care so much?

Now, please elaborate on which part you did not understand and was sooooo vague? We were arguing over another member here on ATS that couldn't use quotations to your liking, do you not remember?
Can we please stick to the subject matter at hand? I’m not interested in whatever you are getting it.




posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Moongirl
Would anyone know what are spirits made out of?

Spirit, by definition, would be immaterial.

It's funny, cos for all of Woodcarver's boasting of being a Material Analyst, this would make him the VERY LEAST qualified on the subject...
Your claim is that spirit is immaterial. How did you come to this conclusion?

By it's definition. It's generally thought to be non-physical, therefore immaterial.
You disagree?
I find that that definition bags another question. The question is; why do people generally believe that? It’s certainly not because of any scientific investigation I find that that definition bags another question. That question is; why do people generally believe that? It’s certainly not because of any scientific investigation Or any evidence that has been presented. It is an idea that has held on to peoples minds since the days when people thought that the gods brought rain and punished people with sicknesses.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 03:29 PM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Woodcarver

"Are you asking me to prove a negative?"

Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?

Because the concept of a null hypothesis is used differently.

There you go attempting to introduce derogatory interjections into what should be a meaningful debate.

Have you ever been tested? As it may be an idea considering the narcissism you have displayed in spades in this thread alone. x
You say you were an electrical engineer but you don’t know how to use the quote function on these boards?


Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?
I don’t know, you’re the one asking me to prove a negative? It’s your question.

Pointing out that you should know better than to ask me to prove a negative is not a derogatory remark. It is pointing out that your grasp of logic should be much higher if you are actually an electrical engineer.


Apparently you've never studied the ability of human errors and typos... Human errors are strong, I guess you missed that through not paying attention in life.
I make typos all the time I’m not worried about it. Most of them are due to me using a voice to text function on my phone.


Then dont bash others for doing the same and I dont care for your excuse to why they happen.


Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?


And why do you care so much?
Do I really need to justify my curiosity to you?

Why am I curious? Because I would like to know. Maybe I’m interested in people who claim to have abilities that seem to defy our understandings. Maybe I want to find somebody who can help me be the first to explain it in scientific terms. Perhaps I just don’t like it when people tell lies to manipulate others into believing they are special. Either way you look at it, the only way to come to any valid confirmation of these abilities whether they be magic or physiological in someway, is to study them. It is to find people who are willing to come forward and present their claims for testing. Are you against that in someway? Do you think this isn’t worth studying? Do you think I should accept everyone’s claims at face value without something to back them up?


Wow, you really are like talking to a rock. I asked "Why do you care" for "Why do you care so much about someone using quotes or their typos" not about spirituality or why your curious, I never asked you that. Stop cutting out what others write and giving an answer to a question that was never asked. Idc why your curious into spirituality. And why dont you create your own thread and make it more aware to ATS'rs instead of someone elses thread.
It’s not my fault that your words were too vague for me to get the right impression of what you were asking.


Actually, you said this EXACTLY

Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?

and I responded back with EXACTLY

And why do you care so much?

Now, please elaborate on which part you did not understand and was sooooo vague? We were arguing over another member here on ATS that couldn't use quotations to your liking, do you not remember?
Can we please stick to the subject matter at hand? I’m not interested in whatever you are getting it.


Here's what im getting at, your bashing everybodies answer that you do not like, your cutting out questions and even making up questions I asked and giving me answers i never asked you for, then you like to play stupid on me being so vague when it was pretty obvious to the answer of my question, You were being a grammar nazi and doing nothing but being a negative nancy. Ive asked you several times to create your own thread if your doing such a deep scientific study and offering to pay ANYBODY $10,000 that can prove whatever it is you seek. But instead you hide away in this thread with a few who respond to you and you constantly question the answer instead of moving forward. Your quite annoying and I honestly dont believe you have squat to offer for money and studies.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 03:29 PM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: imitator
a reply to: Woodcarver

Isn't it possible that science, or preliminary evaluation tests could be setup to look for data that confirms a desired result?
that would depend completely on the tests and how well suited they are to evaluate. We would literally have to take it by a case by case process.

It is very common for people to do bad science. There are lots of examples of it. Fortunately for us we can evaluate whether their methods are valid. If you would like to talk about a particular case I’m down for that. But if you were talking in general, or overall. I think that we would agree that there are far more cons out there then there are people who can demonstrate some ability.

First off, we need to find someone who is willing to demonstrate an ability. Do you know anyone? It’s really pointless to start anywhere else.

I am always open to suggestions for ways to trashed such claims. If you have any ideas I would be happy to hear them.


a reply to: Woodcarver

Right on, I've never really dove into the para-ability stuff... This subject just peaked my curiosity.

What are your thoughts on Russell Targ? I was just youtubing remote viewing, it's total new subject to me. Is the guy legit? and remote viewing?
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posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 03:37 PM
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originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Woodcarver

"Are you asking me to prove a negative?"

Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?

Because the concept of a null hypothesis is used differently.

There you go attempting to introduce derogatory interjections into what should be a meaningful debate.

Have you ever been tested? As it may be an idea considering the narcissism you have displayed in spades in this thread alone. x
You say you were an electrical engineer but you don’t know how to use the quote function on these boards?


Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?
I don’t know, you’re the one asking me to prove a negative? It’s your question.

Pointing out that you should know better than to ask me to prove a negative is not a derogatory remark. It is pointing out that your grasp of logic should be much higher if you are actually an electrical engineer.


Apparently you've never studied the ability of human errors and typos... Human errors are strong, I guess you missed that through not paying attention in life.
I make typos all the time I’m not worried about it. Most of them are due to me using a voice to text function on my phone.


Then dont bash others for doing the same and I dont care for your excuse to why they happen.


Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?


And why do you care so much?
Do I really need to justify my curiosity to you?

Why am I curious? Because I would like to know. Maybe I’m interested in people who claim to have abilities that seem to defy our understandings. Maybe I want to find somebody who can help me be the first to explain it in scientific terms. Perhaps I just don’t like it when people tell lies to manipulate others into believing they are special. Either way you look at it, the only way to come to any valid confirmation of these abilities whether they be magic or physiological in someway, is to study them. It is to find people who are willing to come forward and present their claims for testing. Are you against that in someway? Do you think this isn’t worth studying? Do you think I should accept everyone’s claims at face value without something to back them up?


Wow, you really are like talking to a rock. I asked "Why do you care" for "Why do you care so much about someone using quotes or their typos" not about spirituality or why your curious, I never asked you that. Stop cutting out what others write and giving an answer to a question that was never asked. Idc why your curious into spirituality. And why dont you create your own thread and make it more aware to ATS'rs instead of someone elses thread.
It’s not my fault that your words were too vague for me to get the right impression of what you were asking.


Actually, you said this EXACTLY

Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?

and I responded back with EXACTLY

And why do you care so much?

Now, please elaborate on which part you did not understand and was sooooo vague? We were arguing over another member here on ATS that couldn't use quotations to your liking, do you not remember?
Can we please stick to the subject matter at hand? I’m not interested in whatever you are getting it.


Here's what im getting at, your bashing everybodies answer that you do not like, your cutting out questions and even making up questions I asked and giving me answers i never asked you for, then you like to play stupid on me being so vague when it was pretty obvious to the answer of my question, You were being a grammar nazi and doing nothing but being a negative nancy. Ive asked you several times to create your own thread if your doing such a deep scientific study and offering to pay ANYBODY $10,000 that can prove whatever it is you seek. But instead you hide away in this thread with a few who respond to you and you constantly question the answer instead of moving forward. Your quite annoying and I honestly dont believe you have squat to offer for money and studies.
I did happen to notice that nobody from this thread has won the Nobel prize for Parapsychological inquiry. Please quote the answer in this thread that you believe to be the best explanation.

I’ll be happy to re-start there and focus on that for a while with you.
edit on 7-7-2018 by Woodcarver because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: Woodcarver


Like if I take this online remote viwing class, www.youtube.com...

Would it be possible I win your 10,000?



edit on 40074031pm312018Sat, 07 Jul 2018 15:40:06 -0500 by imitator because: (no reason given)
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posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Woodcarver

"Are you asking me to prove a negative?"

Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?

Because the concept of a null hypothesis is used differently.

There you go attempting to introduce derogatory interjections into what should be a meaningful debate.

Have you ever been tested? As it may be an idea considering the narcissism you have displayed in spades in this thread alone. x
You say you were an electrical engineer but you don’t know how to use the quote function on these boards?


Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?
I don’t know, you’re the one asking me to prove a negative? It’s your question.

Pointing out that you should know better than to ask me to prove a negative is not a derogatory remark. It is pointing out that your grasp of logic should be much higher if you are actually an electrical engineer.


Apparently you've never studied the ability of human errors and typos... Human errors are strong, I guess you missed that through not paying attention in life.
I make typos all the time I’m not worried about it. Most of them are due to me using a voice to text function on my phone.


Then dont bash others for doing the same and I dont care for your excuse to why they happen.


Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?


And why do you care so much?
Do I really need to justify my curiosity to you?

Why am I curious? Because I would like to know. Maybe I’m interested in people who claim to have abilities that seem to defy our understandings. Maybe I want to find somebody who can help me be the first to explain it in scientific terms. Perhaps I just don’t like it when people tell lies to manipulate others into believing they are special. Either way you look at it, the only way to come to any valid confirmation of these abilities whether they be magic or physiological in someway, is to study them. It is to find people who are willing to come forward and present their claims for testing. Are you against that in someway? Do you think this isn’t worth studying? Do you think I should accept everyone’s claims at face value without something to back them up?


Wow, you really are like talking to a rock. I asked "Why do you care" for "Why do you care so much about someone using quotes or their typos" not about spirituality or why your curious, I never asked you that. Stop cutting out what others write and giving an answer to a question that was never asked. Idc why your curious into spirituality. And why dont you create your own thread and make it more aware to ATS'rs instead of someone elses thread.
It’s not my fault that your words were too vague for me to get the right impression of what you were asking.


Actually, you said this EXACTLY

Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?

and I responded back with EXACTLY

And why do you care so much?

Now, please elaborate on which part you did not understand and was sooooo vague? We were arguing over another member here on ATS that couldn't use quotations to your liking, do you not remember?
Can we please stick to the subject matter at hand? I’m not interested in whatever you are getting it.


Here's what im getting at, your bashing everybodies answer that you do not like, your cutting out questions and even making up questions I asked and giving me answers i never asked you for, then you like to play stupid on me being so vague when it was pretty obvious to the answer of my question, You were being a grammar nazi and doing nothing but being a negative nancy. Ive asked you several times to create your own thread if your doing such a deep scientific study and offering to pay ANYBODY $10,000 that can prove whatever it is you seek. But instead you hide away in this thread with a few who respond to you and you constantly question the answer instead of moving forward. Your quite annoying and I honestly dont believe you have squat to offer for money and studies.
I did happen to notice that nobody from this thread has won the Nobel prize for Parapsychological inquiry. Please quote the answer in this thread that you believe to be the best explanation.

I’ll be happy to re-start there and focus on that for a while with you.


Doing your studies you should have notes on all Q&A, your the scientist offering $10,000, what might that best answer be from this thread? Im not the one bashing everybody and offering $10,000... You are



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Moongirl
Would anyone know what are spirits made out of?

Spirit, by definition, would be immaterial.

It's funny, cos for all of Woodcarver's boasting of being a Material Analyst, this would make him the VERY LEAST qualified on the subject...
Your claim is that spirit is immaterial. How did you come to this conclusion?

By it's definition. It's generally thought to be non-physical, therefore immaterial.
You disagree?
I find that that definition bags another question. The question is; why do people generally believe that? It’s certainly not because of any scientific investigation I find that that definition bags another question. That question is; why do people generally believe that? It’s certainly not because of any scientific investigation Or any evidence that has been presented. It is an idea that has held on to peoples minds since the days when people thought that the gods brought rain and punished people with sicknesses.

Well YOU have to work with what you've been given.
Spirit is generally thought to be, YES generally thought to be non-physical, therefore immaterial.
That's the idea of spirit! You know this already!

Now, how to you suppose to test for the non-physical/immaterial with physical/material means?



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Moongirl
Would anyone know what are spirits made out of?

Spirit, by definition, would be immaterial.

It's funny, cos for all of Woodcarver's boasting of being a Material Analyst, this would make him the VERY LEAST qualified on the subject...
Your claim is that spirit is immaterial. How did you come to this conclusion?

By it's definition. It's generally thought to be non-physical, therefore immaterial.
You disagree?
I find that that definition bags another question. The question is; why do people generally believe that? It’s certainly not because of any scientific investigation I find that that definition bags another question. That question is; why do people generally believe that? It’s certainly not because of any scientific investigation Or any evidence that has been presented. It is an idea that has held on to peoples minds since the days when people thought that the gods brought rain and punished people with sicknesses.

Well YOU have to work with what you've been given.
Spirit is generally thought to be, YES generally thought to be non-physical, therefore immaterial.
That's the idea of spirit! You know this already!

Now, how to you suppose to test for the non-physical/immaterial with physical/material means?



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: imitator

It might just give you an edge. In a world where anything is possible, this would not be an exception to that rule.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Woodcarver

"Are you asking me to prove a negative?"

Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?

Because the concept of a null hypothesis is used differently.

There you go attempting to introduce derogatory interjections into what should be a meaningful debate.

Have you ever been tested? As it may be an idea considering the narcissism you have displayed in spades in this thread alone. x
You say you were an electrical engineer but you don’t know how to use the quote function on these boards?


Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?
I don’t know, you’re the one asking me to prove a negative? It’s your question.

Pointing out that you should know better than to ask me to prove a negative is not a derogatory remark. It is pointing out that your grasp of logic should be much higher if you are actually an electrical engineer.


Apparently you've never studied the ability of human errors and typos... Human errors are strong, I guess you missed that through not paying attention in life.
I make typos all the time I’m not worried about it. Most of them are due to me using a voice to text function on my phone.


Then dont bash others for doing the same and I dont care for your excuse to why they happen.


Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?


And why do you care so much?
Do I really need to justify my curiosity to you?

Why am I curious? Because I would like to know. Maybe I’m interested in people who claim to have abilities that seem to defy our understandings. Maybe I want to find somebody who can help me be the first to explain it in scientific terms. Perhaps I just don’t like it when people tell lies to manipulate others into believing they are special. Either way you look at it, the only way to come to any valid confirmation of these abilities whether they be magic or physiological in someway, is to study them. It is to find people who are willing to come forward and present their claims for testing. Are you against that in someway? Do you think this isn’t worth studying? Do you think I should accept everyone’s claims at face value without something to back them up?


Wow, you really are like talking to a rock. I asked "Why do you care" for "Why do you care so much about someone using quotes or their typos" not about spirituality or why your curious, I never asked you that. Stop cutting out what others write and giving an answer to a question that was never asked. Idc why your curious into spirituality. And why dont you create your own thread and make it more aware to ATS'rs instead of someone elses thread.
It’s not my fault that your words were too vague for me to get the right impression of what you were asking.


Actually, you said this EXACTLY

Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?

and I responded back with EXACTLY

And why do you care so much?

Now, please elaborate on which part you did not understand and was sooooo vague? We were arguing over another member here on ATS that couldn't use quotations to your liking, do you not remember?
Can we please stick to the subject matter at hand? I’m not interested in whatever you are getting it.


Here's what im getting at, your bashing everybodies answer that you do not like, your cutting out questions and even making up questions I asked and giving me answers i never asked you for, then you like to play stupid on me being so vague when it was pretty obvious to the answer of my question, You were being a grammar nazi and doing nothing but being a negative nancy. Ive asked you several times to create your own thread if your doing such a deep scientific study and offering to pay ANYBODY $10,000 that can prove whatever it is you seek. But instead you hide away in this thread with a few who respond to you and you constantly question the answer instead of moving forward. Your quite annoying and I honestly dont believe you have squat to offer for money and studies.
I did happen to notice that nobody from this thread has won the Nobel prize for Parapsychological inquiry. Please quote the answer in this thread that you believe to be the best explanation.

I’ll be happy to re-start there and focus on that for a while with you.


Doing your studies you should have notes on all Q&A, your the scientist offering $10,000, what might that best answer be from this thread? Im not the one bashing everybody and offering $10,000... You are
I’ll gladly keep it. This money is reserved for people with abilities who are willing to demonstrate them.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Woodcarver

"Are you asking me to prove a negative?"

Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?

Because the concept of a null hypothesis is used differently.

There you go attempting to introduce derogatory interjections into what should be a meaningful debate.

Have you ever been tested? As it may be an idea considering the narcissism you have displayed in spades in this thread alone. x
You say you were an electrical engineer but you don’t know how to use the quote function on these boards?


Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?
I don’t know, you’re the one asking me to prove a negative? It’s your question.

Pointing out that you should know better than to ask me to prove a negative is not a derogatory remark. It is pointing out that your grasp of logic should be much higher if you are actually an electrical engineer.


Apparently you've never studied the ability of human errors and typos... Human errors are strong, I guess you missed that through not paying attention in life.
I make typos all the time I’m not worried about it. Most of them are due to me using a voice to text function on my phone.


Then dont bash others for doing the same and I dont care for your excuse to why they happen.


Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?


And why do you care so much?
Do I really need to justify my curiosity to you?

Why am I curious? Because I would like to know. Maybe I’m interested in people who claim to have abilities that seem to defy our understandings. Maybe I want to find somebody who can help me be the first to explain it in scientific terms. Perhaps I just don’t like it when people tell lies to manipulate others into believing they are special. Either way you look at it, the only way to come to any valid confirmation of these abilities whether they be magic or physiological in someway, is to study them. It is to find people who are willing to come forward and present their claims for testing. Are you against that in someway? Do you think this isn’t worth studying? Do you think I should accept everyone’s claims at face value without something to back them up?


Wow, you really are like talking to a rock. I asked "Why do you care" for "Why do you care so much about someone using quotes or their typos" not about spirituality or why your curious, I never asked you that. Stop cutting out what others write and giving an answer to a question that was never asked. Idc why your curious into spirituality. And why dont you create your own thread and make it more aware to ATS'rs instead of someone elses thread.
It’s not my fault that your words were too vague for me to get the right impression of what you were asking.


Actually, you said this EXACTLY

Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?

and I responded back with EXACTLY

And why do you care so much?

Now, please elaborate on which part you did not understand and was sooooo vague? We were arguing over another member here on ATS that couldn't use quotations to your liking, do you not remember?
Can we please stick to the subject matter at hand? I’m not interested in whatever you are getting it.


Here's what im getting at, your bashing everybodies answer that you do not like, your cutting out questions and even making up questions I asked and giving me answers i never asked you for, then you like to play stupid on me being so vague when it was pretty obvious to the answer of my question, You were being a grammar nazi and doing nothing but being a negative nancy. Ive asked you several times to create your own thread if your doing such a deep scientific study and offering to pay ANYBODY $10,000 that can prove whatever it is you seek. But instead you hide away in this thread with a few who respond to you and you constantly question the answer instead of moving forward. Your quite annoying and I honestly dont believe you have squat to offer for money and studies.
I did happen to notice that nobody from this thread has won the Nobel prize for Parapsychological inquiry. Please quote the answer in this thread that you believe to be the best explanation.

I’ll be happy to re-start there and focus on that for a while with you.


Doing your studies you should have notes on all Q&A, your the scientist offering $10,000, what might that best answer be from this thread? Im not the one bashing everybody and offering $10,000... You are

I looked at his bank balance using my remote viewing ability.
He doesn't even have 1000 dollars in savings, let alone 10,000.
The guy's a fraud!

He also sells "real magic wands" on his website, I'm still waiting for a refund.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Woodcarver

"Are you asking me to prove a negative?"

Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?

Because the concept of a null hypothesis is used differently.

There you go attempting to introduce derogatory interjections into what should be a meaningful debate.

Have you ever been tested? As it may be an idea considering the narcissism you have displayed in spades in this thread alone. x
You say you were an electrical engineer but you don’t know how to use the quote function on these boards?


Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?
I don’t know, you’re the one asking me to prove a negative? It’s your question.

Pointing out that you should know better than to ask me to prove a negative is not a derogatory remark. It is pointing out that your grasp of logic should be much higher if you are actually an electrical engineer.


Apparently you've never studied the ability of human errors and typos... Human errors are strong, I guess you missed that through not paying attention in life.
I make typos all the time I’m not worried about it. Most of them are due to me using a voice to text function on my phone.


Then dont bash others for doing the same and I dont care for your excuse to why they happen.


Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?


And why do you care so much?
Do I really need to justify my curiosity to you?

Why am I curious? Because I would like to know. Maybe I’m interested in people who claim to have abilities that seem to defy our understandings. Maybe I want to find somebody who can help me be the first to explain it in scientific terms. Perhaps I just don’t like it when people tell lies to manipulate others into believing they are special. Either way you look at it, the only way to come to any valid confirmation of these abilities whether they be magic or physiological in someway, is to study them. It is to find people who are willing to come forward and present their claims for testing. Are you against that in someway? Do you think this isn’t worth studying? Do you think I should accept everyone’s claims at face value without something to back them up?


Wow, you really are like talking to a rock. I asked "Why do you care" for "Why do you care so much about someone using quotes or their typos" not about spirituality or why your curious, I never asked you that. Stop cutting out what others write and giving an answer to a question that was never asked. Idc why your curious into spirituality. And why dont you create your own thread and make it more aware to ATS'rs instead of someone elses thread.
It’s not my fault that your words were too vague for me to get the right impression of what you were asking.


Actually, you said this EXACTLY

Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?

and I responded back with EXACTLY

And why do you care so much?

Now, please elaborate on which part you did not understand and was sooooo vague? We were arguing over another member here on ATS that couldn't use quotations to your liking, do you not remember?
Can we please stick to the subject matter at hand? I’m not interested in whatever you are getting it.


Here's what im getting at, your bashing everybodies answer that you do not like, your cutting out questions and even making up questions I asked and giving me answers i never asked you for, then you like to play stupid on me being so vague when it was pretty obvious to the answer of my question, You were being a grammar nazi and doing nothing but being a negative nancy. Ive asked you several times to create your own thread if your doing such a deep scientific study and offering to pay ANYBODY $10,000 that can prove whatever it is you seek. But instead you hide away in this thread with a few who respond to you and you constantly question the answer instead of moving forward. Your quite annoying and I honestly dont believe you have squat to offer for money and studies.
I did happen to notice that nobody from this thread has won the Nobel prize for Parapsychological inquiry. Please quote the answer in this thread that you believe to be the best explanation.

I’ll be happy to re-start there and focus on that for a while with you.


Doing your studies you should have notes on all Q&A, your the scientist offering $10,000, what might that best answer be from this thread? Im not the one bashing everybody and offering $10,000... You are

I looked at his bank balance using my remote viewing ability.
He doesn't even have 1000 dollars in savings, let alone 10,000.
The guy's a fraud!

He also sells "real magic wands" on his website, I'm still waiting for a refund.
Are you even capable of staying on topic? I know you made this account to be your go to troll account, but I would think that you would try to keep it a little more subtle so as to not get your posts deleted.
edit on 7-7-2018 by Woodcarver because: (no reason given)


You could join the discussion you don’t have to just throw a tantrum every time.
edit on 7-7-2018 by Woodcarver because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 04:26 PM
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Lol what a question....I honestly have no idea, but if I had to guess I would say some form of energy within the field of dark matter.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 04:49 PM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Woodcarver

"Are you asking me to prove a negative?"

Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?

Because the concept of a null hypothesis is used differently.

There you go attempting to introduce derogatory interjections into what should be a meaningful debate.

Have you ever been tested? As it may be an idea considering the narcissism you have displayed in spades in this thread alone. x
You say you were an electrical engineer but you don’t know how to use the quote function on these boards?


Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?
I don’t know, you’re the one asking me to prove a negative? It’s your question.

Pointing out that you should know better than to ask me to prove a negative is not a derogatory remark. It is pointing out that your grasp of logic should be much higher if you are actually an electrical engineer.


Apparently you've never studied the ability of human errors and typos... Human errors are strong, I guess you missed that through not paying attention in life.
I make typos all the time I’m not worried about it. Most of them are due to me using a voice to text function on my phone.


Then dont bash others for doing the same and I dont care for your excuse to why they happen.


Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?


And why do you care so much?
Do I really need to justify my curiosity to you?

Why am I curious? Because I would like to know. Maybe I’m interested in people who claim to have abilities that seem to defy our understandings. Maybe I want to find somebody who can help me be the first to explain it in scientific terms. Perhaps I just don’t like it when people tell lies to manipulate others into believing they are special. Either way you look at it, the only way to come to any valid confirmation of these abilities whether they be magic or physiological in someway, is to study them. It is to find people who are willing to come forward and present their claims for testing. Are you against that in someway? Do you think this isn’t worth studying? Do you think I should accept everyone’s claims at face value without something to back them up?


Wow, you really are like talking to a rock. I asked "Why do you care" for "Why do you care so much about someone using quotes or their typos" not about spirituality or why your curious, I never asked you that. Stop cutting out what others write and giving an answer to a question that was never asked. Idc why your curious into spirituality. And why dont you create your own thread and make it more aware to ATS'rs instead of someone elses thread.
It’s not my fault that your words were too vague for me to get the right impression of what you were asking.


Actually, you said this EXACTLY

Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?

and I responded back with EXACTLY

And why do you care so much?

Now, please elaborate on which part you did not understand and was sooooo vague? We were arguing over another member here on ATS that couldn't use quotations to your liking, do you not remember?
Can we please stick to the subject matter at hand? I’m not interested in whatever you are getting it.


Here's what im getting at, your bashing everybodies answer that you do not like, your cutting out questions and even making up questions I asked and giving me answers i never asked you for, then you like to play stupid on me being so vague when it was pretty obvious to the answer of my question, You were being a grammar nazi and doing nothing but being a negative nancy. Ive asked you several times to create your own thread if your doing such a deep scientific study and offering to pay ANYBODY $10,000 that can prove whatever it is you seek. But instead you hide away in this thread with a few who respond to you and you constantly question the answer instead of moving forward. Your quite annoying and I honestly dont believe you have squat to offer for money and studies.
I did happen to notice that nobody from this thread has won the Nobel prize for Parapsychological inquiry. Please quote the answer in this thread that you believe to be the best explanation.

I’ll be happy to re-start there and focus on that for a while with you.


Doing your studies you should have notes on all Q&A, your the scientist offering $10,000, what might that best answer be from this thread? Im not the one bashing everybody and offering $10,000... You are

I looked at his bank balance using my remote viewing ability.
He doesn't even have 1000 dollars in savings, let alone 10,000.
The guy's a fraud!

He also sells "real magic wands" on his website, I'm still waiting for a refund.
Are you even capable of staying on topic? I know you made this account to be your go to troll account, but I would think that you would try to keep it a little more subtle so as to not get your posts deleted.

You could join the discussion you don’t have to just throw a tantrum every time.


How would you know this is his troll account, have you done an extensive investigation and come up with proof Mr."I have a high standard when it comes to these discussions. That high standard comes from my training as a scientist." You actually said that exact thing. Do you have proof, can you validate your research on said troll?



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 04:58 PM
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Well this thread down graded quickly.

look people if you want to figure out what "spirits are made of" let's stop with the back and forth and ask ourselves some questions:


What properties does this material appear to have, or reported to have?

Let's start with just this question, why don't you people take the time to answer just this question and we can go from there. To any nay-sayers let's look at this question like the 18th century quest of "what is aether", sure it's a nonsense question now, but at the time it was a valid question. Over time it was learned that the aether that lifted up a hot air balloon was in fact warmer air then the air out side of the balloon, thus leading to the un derstanding that warmer air does expand. "Spirit Matter" could very well be this generations "Aether Matter" question.


edit on 7-7-2018 by Guyfriday because: Prediction of the future



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Woodcarver

"Are you asking me to prove a negative?"

Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?

Because the concept of a null hypothesis is used differently.

There you go attempting to introduce derogatory interjections into what should be a meaningful debate.

Have you ever been tested? As it may be an idea considering the narcissism you have displayed in spades in this thread alone. x
You say you were an electrical engineer but you don’t know how to use the quote function on these boards?


Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?
I don’t know, you’re the one asking me to prove a negative? It’s your question.

Pointing out that you should know better than to ask me to prove a negative is not a derogatory remark. It is pointing out that your grasp of logic should be much higher if you are actually an electrical engineer.


Apparently you've never studied the ability of human errors and typos... Human errors are strong, I guess you missed that through not paying attention in life.
I make typos all the time I’m not worried about it. Most of them are due to me using a voice to text function on my phone.


Then dont bash others for doing the same and I dont care for your excuse to why they happen.


Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?


And why do you care so much?
Do I really need to justify my curiosity to you?

Why am I curious? Because I would like to know. Maybe I’m interested in people who claim to have abilities that seem to defy our understandings. Maybe I want to find somebody who can help me be the first to explain it in scientific terms. Perhaps I just don’t like it when people tell lies to manipulate others into believing they are special. Either way you look at it, the only way to come to any valid confirmation of these abilities whether they be magic or physiological in someway, is to study them. It is to find people who are willing to come forward and present their claims for testing. Are you against that in someway? Do you think this isn’t worth studying? Do you think I should accept everyone’s claims at face value without something to back them up?


Wow, you really are like talking to a rock. I asked "Why do you care" for "Why do you care so much about someone using quotes or their typos" not about spirituality or why your curious, I never asked you that. Stop cutting out what others write and giving an answer to a question that was never asked. Idc why your curious into spirituality. And why dont you create your own thread and make it more aware to ATS'rs instead of someone elses thread.
It’s not my fault that your words were too vague for me to get the right impression of what you were asking.


Actually, you said this EXACTLY

Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?

and I responded back with EXACTLY

And why do you care so much?

Now, please elaborate on which part you did not understand and was sooooo vague? We were arguing over another member here on ATS that couldn't use quotations to your liking, do you not remember?
Can we please stick to the subject matter at hand? I’m not interested in whatever you are getting it.


Here's what im getting at, your bashing everybodies answer that you do not like, your cutting out questions and even making up questions I asked and giving me answers i never asked you for, then you like to play stupid on me being so vague when it was pretty obvious to the answer of my question, You were being a grammar nazi and doing nothing but being a negative nancy. Ive asked you several times to create your own thread if your doing such a deep scientific study and offering to pay ANYBODY $10,000 that can prove whatever it is you seek. But instead you hide away in this thread with a few who respond to you and you constantly question the answer instead of moving forward. Your quite annoying and I honestly dont believe you have squat to offer for money and studies.
I did happen to notice that nobody from this thread has won the Nobel prize for Parapsychological inquiry. Please quote the answer in this thread that you believe to be the best explanation.

I’ll be happy to re-start there and focus on that for a while with you.


Doing your studies you should have notes on all Q&A, your the scientist offering $10,000, what might that best answer be from this thread? Im not the one bashing everybody and offering $10,000... You are

I looked at his bank balance using my remote viewing ability.
He doesn't even have 1000 dollars in savings, let alone 10,000.
The guy's a fraud!

He also sells "real magic wands" on his website, I'm still waiting for a refund.
Are you even capable of staying on topic? I know you made this account to be your go to troll account, but I would think that you would try to keep it a little more subtle so as to not get your posts deleted.

You could join the discussion you don’t have to just throw a tantrum every time.

Lol
1. I have only one account here, this one.
2. I don't think I've ever had one of my posts deleted here.
3. If you have any evidence to back up these claims, present them instead of throwing your own little tantrums every time I make you feel silly.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: imitator

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: imitator
a reply to: Woodcarver

Isn't it possible that science, or preliminary evaluation tests could be setup to look for data that confirms a desired result?
that would depend completely on the tests and how well suited they are to evaluate. We would literally have to take it by a case by case process.

It is very common for people to do bad science. There are lots of examples of it. Fortunately for us we can evaluate whether their methods are valid. If you would like to talk about a particular case I’m down for that. But if you were talking in general, or overall. I think that we would agree that there are far more cons out there then there are people who can demonstrate some ability.

First off, we need to find someone who is willing to demonstrate an ability. Do you know anyone? It’s really pointless to start anywhere else.

I am always open to suggestions for ways to trashed such claims. If you have any ideas I would be happy to hear them.


a reply to: Woodcarver

Right on, I've never really dove into the para-ability stuff... This subject just peaked my curiosity.

What are your thoughts on Russell Targ? I was just youtubing remote viewing, it's total new subject to me. Is the guy legit? and remote viewing?
I have never heard about him specifically, but there is a long standing debate about whether remote viewing is viable. It is actually one of the most testable abilities that people claim to have. In fact that is a test that we could do here on the forum if anybody is interested in actually studying this subject matter.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Woodcarver

"Are you asking me to prove a negative?"

Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?

Because the concept of a null hypothesis is used differently.

There you go attempting to introduce derogatory interjections into what should be a meaningful debate.

Have you ever been tested? As it may be an idea considering the narcissism you have displayed in spades in this thread alone. x
You say you were an electrical engineer but you don’t know how to use the quote function on these boards?


Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?
I don’t know, you’re the one asking me to prove a negative? It’s your question.

Pointing out that you should know better than to ask me to prove a negative is not a derogatory remark. It is pointing out that your grasp of logic should be much higher if you are actually an electrical engineer.


Apparently you've never studied the ability of human errors and typos... Human errors are strong, I guess you missed that through not paying attention in life.
I make typos all the time I’m not worried about it. Most of them are due to me using a voice to text function on my phone.


Then dont bash others for doing the same and I dont care for your excuse to why they happen.


Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?


And why do you care so much?
Do I really need to justify my curiosity to you?

Why am I curious? Because I would like to know. Maybe I’m interested in people who claim to have abilities that seem to defy our understandings. Maybe I want to find somebody who can help me be the first to explain it in scientific terms. Perhaps I just don’t like it when people tell lies to manipulate others into believing they are special. Either way you look at it, the only way to come to any valid confirmation of these abilities whether they be magic or physiological in someway, is to study them. It is to find people who are willing to come forward and present their claims for testing. Are you against that in someway? Do you think this isn’t worth studying? Do you think I should accept everyone’s claims at face value without something to back them up?


Wow, you really are like talking to a rock. I asked "Why do you care" for "Why do you care so much about someone using quotes or their typos" not about spirituality or why your curious, I never asked you that. Stop cutting out what others write and giving an answer to a question that was never asked. Idc why your curious into spirituality. And why dont you create your own thread and make it more aware to ATS'rs instead of someone elses thread.
It’s not my fault that your words were too vague for me to get the right impression of what you were asking.


Actually, you said this EXACTLY

Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?

and I responded back with EXACTLY

And why do you care so much?

Now, please elaborate on which part you did not understand and was sooooo vague? We were arguing over another member here on ATS that couldn't use quotations to your liking, do you not remember?
Can we please stick to the subject matter at hand? I’m not interested in whatever you are getting it.


Here's what im getting at, your bashing everybodies answer that you do not like, your cutting out questions and even making up questions I asked and giving me answers i never asked you for, then you like to play stupid on me being so vague when it was pretty obvious to the answer of my question, You were being a grammar nazi and doing nothing but being a negative nancy. Ive asked you several times to create your own thread if your doing such a deep scientific study and offering to pay ANYBODY $10,000 that can prove whatever it is you seek. But instead you hide away in this thread with a few who respond to you and you constantly question the answer instead of moving forward. Your quite annoying and I honestly dont believe you have squat to offer for money and studies.
I did happen to notice that nobody from this thread has won the Nobel prize for Parapsychological inquiry. Please quote the answer in this thread that you believe to be the best explanation.

I’ll be happy to re-start there and focus on that for a while with you.


Doing your studies you should have notes on all Q&A, your the scientist offering $10,000, what might that best answer be from this thread? Im not the one bashing everybody and offering $10,000... You are

I looked at his bank balance using my remote viewing ability.
He doesn't even have 1000 dollars in savings, let alone 10,000.
The guy's a fraud!

He also sells "real magic wands" on his website, I'm still waiting for a refund.
Are you even capable of staying on topic? I know you made this account to be your go to troll account, but I would think that you would try to keep it a little more subtle so as to not get your posts deleted.

You could join the discussion you don’t have to just throw a tantrum every time.

Lol
1. I have only one account here, this one.
2. I don't think I've ever had one of my posts deleted here.
3. If you have any evidence to back up these claims, present them instead of throwing your own little tantrums every time I make you feel silly.
Your childish outburst only serve to make you look silly. Some people here are actually interested in the subject.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Ruiner1978

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Woodcarver

"Are you asking me to prove a negative?"

Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?

Because the concept of a null hypothesis is used differently.

There you go attempting to introduce derogatory interjections into what should be a meaningful debate.

Have you ever been tested? As it may be an idea considering the narcissism you have displayed in spades in this thread alone. x
You say you were an electrical engineer but you don’t know how to use the quote function on these boards?


Philosophically, In law, or from a statistical sense?
I don’t know, you’re the one asking me to prove a negative? It’s your question.

Pointing out that you should know better than to ask me to prove a negative is not a derogatory remark. It is pointing out that your grasp of logic should be much higher if you are actually an electrical engineer.


Apparently you've never studied the ability of human errors and typos... Human errors are strong, I guess you missed that through not paying attention in life.
I make typos all the time I’m not worried about it. Most of them are due to me using a voice to text function on my phone.


Then dont bash others for doing the same and I dont care for your excuse to why they happen.


Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?


And why do you care so much?
Do I really need to justify my curiosity to you?

Why am I curious? Because I would like to know. Maybe I’m interested in people who claim to have abilities that seem to defy our understandings. Maybe I want to find somebody who can help me be the first to explain it in scientific terms. Perhaps I just don’t like it when people tell lies to manipulate others into believing they are special. Either way you look at it, the only way to come to any valid confirmation of these abilities whether they be magic or physiological in someway, is to study them. It is to find people who are willing to come forward and present their claims for testing. Are you against that in someway? Do you think this isn’t worth studying? Do you think I should accept everyone’s claims at face value without something to back them up?


Wow, you really are like talking to a rock. I asked "Why do you care" for "Why do you care so much about someone using quotes or their typos" not about spirituality or why your curious, I never asked you that. Stop cutting out what others write and giving an answer to a question that was never asked. Idc why your curious into spirituality. And why dont you create your own thread and make it more aware to ATS'rs instead of someone elses thread.
It’s not my fault that your words were too vague for me to get the right impression of what you were asking.


Actually, you said this EXACTLY

Using the quote function is part of t&c. Neglecting to use it is not a typo. Will you please get back to the topic at hand?

and I responded back with EXACTLY

And why do you care so much?

Now, please elaborate on which part you did not understand and was sooooo vague? We were arguing over another member here on ATS that couldn't use quotations to your liking, do you not remember?
Can we please stick to the subject matter at hand? I’m not interested in whatever you are getting it.


Here's what im getting at, your bashing everybodies answer that you do not like, your cutting out questions and even making up questions I asked and giving me answers i never asked you for, then you like to play stupid on me being so vague when it was pretty obvious to the answer of my question, You were being a grammar nazi and doing nothing but being a negative nancy. Ive asked you several times to create your own thread if your doing such a deep scientific study and offering to pay ANYBODY $10,000 that can prove whatever it is you seek. But instead you hide away in this thread with a few who respond to you and you constantly question the answer instead of moving forward. Your quite annoying and I honestly dont believe you have squat to offer for money and studies.
I did happen to notice that nobody from this thread has won the Nobel prize for Parapsychological inquiry. Please quote the answer in this thread that you believe to be the best explanation.

I’ll be happy to re-start there and focus on that for a while with you.


Doing your studies you should have notes on all Q&A, your the scientist offering $10,000, what might that best answer be from this thread? Im not the one bashing everybody and offering $10,000... You are

I looked at his bank balance using my remote viewing ability.
He doesn't even have 1000 dollars in savings, let alone 10,000.
The guy's a fraud!

He also sells "real magic wands" on his website, I'm still waiting for a refund.
Are you even capable of staying on topic? I know you made this account to be your go to troll account, but I would think that you would try to keep it a little more subtle so as to not get your posts deleted.

You could join the discussion you don’t have to just throw a tantrum every time.


How would you know this is his troll account, have you done an extensive investigation and come up with proof Mr."I have a high standard when it comes to these discussions. That high standard comes from my training as a scientist." You actually said that exact thing. Do you have proof, can you validate your research on said troll?


Any account he has is a troll account. Are you interested in the subject or not?
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