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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: burdman30ott6
In some cases what you say is true, certainly.
But that whole "heat island" excuse is pretty much dead, except for the die hard deniers.
Can I chalk you up for one who doesn't think the world is warming then?
Not exactly. I don't view this as a one side or the other issue. I don't believe human emissions are contributing to a warming Earth. I think humans are contributing to warmer spots at the surface via development, but I also believe temperature changes are cyclic in nature. We'll start cooling down sooner or later, and in man's terms it may take a long while, but in geologic terms it could happen "tomorrow." no telling, too many variables and factors I don't even believe mankind understands yet.
During the summer, the sun's rays hit the Earth at a steep angle. The light does not spread out as much, thus increasing the amount of energy hitting any given spot. Also, the long daylight hours allow the Earth plenty of time to reach warm temperatures.
During the winter, the sun's rays hit the Earth at a shallow angle. These rays are more spread out, which minimizes the amount of energy that hits any given spot. Also, the long nights and short days prevent the Earth from warming up. Thus, we have winter!
originally posted by: Gargoyle91
a reply to: DBCowboy
Can I ask why you believe Google is your friend ?
There's so many different opinions and pages you can pick and choose the ones that fit your beliefs.
So Google is not your friend .
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Greven
I have read.
Show me, post me, answer my questions.
Google is your friend.
Little hint, you won't be able to answer my questions.
it's alllllll about the sun
originally posted by: toysforadults
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: burdman30ott6
In some cases what you say is true, certainly.
But that whole "heat island" excuse is pretty much dead, except for the die hard deniers.
Can I chalk you up for one who doesn't think the world is warming then?
Not exactly. I don't view this as a one side or the other issue. I don't believe human emissions are contributing to a warming Earth. I think humans are contributing to warmer spots at the surface via development, but I also believe temperature changes are cyclic in nature. We'll start cooling down sooner or later, and in man's terms it may take a long while, but in geologic terms it could happen "tomorrow." no telling, too many variables and factors I don't even believe mankind understands yet.
It's SUPER obvious the sun is the biggest player driving climate change in either direction
www.loc.gov...
During the summer, the sun's rays hit the Earth at a steep angle. The light does not spread out as much, thus increasing the amount of energy hitting any given spot. Also, the long daylight hours allow the Earth plenty of time to reach warm temperatures.
During the winter, the sun's rays hit the Earth at a shallow angle. These rays are more spread out, which minimizes the amount of energy that hits any given spot. Also, the long nights and short days prevent the Earth from warming up. Thus, we have winter!
it's alllllll about the sun
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Greven
I have read.
Show me, post me, answer my questions.
Google is your friend.
Little hint, you won't be able to answer my questions.
Go find out yourself. You're not here for a rational debate. You well know the immensity of what you request, as you point out with your 'little hint.'
Your line of inquiry is irrelevant anyway, because you cannot disprove the simple underpinnings of human-induced climate change:
Humans are emitting massive amounts of CO2.
A large portion of the CO2 that humans emit is sticking around in the atmosphere.
CO2 redistributes heat in the atmosphere nearer to the surface.
Ergo, humans are inducing warming.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: toysforadults
it's alllllll about the sun
So, the Sun is getting hotter?
That would seem to be a pretty easy thing to provide evidence for.
I never said the sun was getting hotter did I?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Greven
I have read.
Show me, post me, answer my questions.
Google is your friend.
Little hint, you won't be able to answer my questions.
Go find out yourself. You're not here for a rational debate. You well know the immensity of what you request, as you point out with your 'little hint.'
Your line of inquiry is irrelevant anyway, because you cannot disprove the simple underpinnings of human-induced climate change:
Humans are emitting massive amounts of CO2.
A large portion of the CO2 that humans emit is sticking around in the atmosphere.
CO2 redistributes heat in the atmosphere nearer to the surface.
Ergo, humans are inducing warming.
I looked. I have done due diligence. There isn't any paper or papers out that would answer my questions.
I question things because I am a trained engineer, a scientist.
I don't take things on faith or simply believe. That's called religion.
As I implied, perhaps your idea of what a "monthly average" is was different from theirs.
Did it for three months if I recall right and in each case the monthly average was 3 dergrees lower than the number coming from them.
There are things being said about adaptation by the government. That's good. But, as you know, I think actions can be taken which will slow the rate of change. Allowing more time do, perhaps, do something about adaption.
We should be planning for what might become a problem in the next hundred years or more, instead of this endless debate over minutia.