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Lifetime Supreme Court seats, in the era of Life Extension..........................

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posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 02:51 PM
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A major component of the "Transhumanisn" scene is "Immortality". The argument for about a decade now is if you survive another 20 years technology advancements will enable you to live another 20 years. And then after those 20 years you'll be able to live another 40 years. And then another 100 years. And then another 1000 years. Etc. Assuming you dont get hit by a bus or something.

Yet with Supreme Count seats providing lifelong position, meaning terms of 20, 30 or more years as it is already in this pre-Immortality era, assuming the technocrats get their dream of immortality:


Hang in There: The 25-Year Wait for Immortality
Time may indeed be on your side. If you can just last another quarter century.

By then, people will start lives that could last 1,000 years or more. Our human genomes will be modified to include the genetic material of microorganisms that live in the soil, enabling us to break down the junk proteins that our cells amass over time and which they can't digest on their own. People will have the option of looking and feeling the way they did at 20 for the rest of their lives, or opt for an older look if they get bored. Of course, everyone will be required to go in for age rejuvenation therapy once every decade or so, but that will be a small price to pay for near-immortality.


This should put an all new urgency on this whole notion of lifetime SCOTUS seats.

Here goes the basic premise of the method:


The basic purpose of lifetime appointment is to assure the integrity of the power granted to Court Justices and protect them against unwarranted interference from either the legislative or executive branch. The express and implicit separation of the Supreme Court from the other branches of Government is therefore upheld. In accordance with the principle of providing checks and balances, the executive and legislative branches exercise control over the Supreme Court by, respectively, proposing and approving candidates for that body. constitution.laws.com...


And some counter-intuition:


“Except for the state of Rhode Island, no other western jurisdiction has life tenure for high court justices,” Lindgren said. “Term limits would help usher out judges with mental decrepitude and loss of stamina, eliminate strategic retirement for political reasons, reduce animosity in confirmation, and return to traditional levels of judicial independence.” www.law.columbia.edu...


Yet while we're at it it should be paramount to remove the partisan Two Party nature of the selection process.

What are your thought?


I tried posting this in the "Accelerating Change" forum, but couldnt find the category button for some reason...




posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 02:56 PM
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Cart before the horse. Let's see it happen before we freak out well before the fact. Immortality is a pipe dream at the present. Even life extension by any appreciable amount is nowhere near happening. These predictions are only predictions at this point. We can't even cure the common cold.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 02:58 PM
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They can be impeached and removed, if they are determined unfit to sit.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
A major component of the "Transhumanisn" scene is "Immortality". The argument for about a decade now is if you survive another 20 years technology advancements will enable you to live another 20 years. And then after those 20 years you'll be able to live another 40 years. And then another 100 years. And then another 1000 years. Etc. Assuming you dont get hit by a bus or something.

Yet with Supreme Count seats providing lifelong position, meaning terms of 20, 30 or more years as it is already in this pre-Immortality era, assuming the technocrats get their dream of immortality:


Hang in There: The 25-Year Wait for Immortality
Time may indeed be on your side. If you can just last another quarter century.

By then, people will start lives that could last 1,000 years or more. Our human genomes will be modified to include the genetic material of microorganisms that live in the soil, enabling us to break down the junk proteins that our cells amass over time and which they can't digest on their own. People will have the option of looking and feeling the way they did at 20 for the rest of their lives, or opt for an older look if they get bored. Of course, everyone will be required to go in for age rejuvenation therapy once every decade or so, but that will be a small price to pay for near-immortality.


This should put an all new urgency on this whole notion of lifetime SCOTUS seats.

Here goes the basic premise of the method:


The basic purpose of lifetime appointment is to assure the integrity of the power granted to Court Justices and protect them against unwarranted interference from either the legislative or executive branch. The express and implicit separation of the Supreme Court from the other branches of Government is therefore upheld. In accordance with the principle of providing checks and balances, the executive and legislative branches exercise control over the Supreme Court by, respectively, proposing and approving candidates for that body. constitution.laws.com...


And some counter-intuition:


“Except for the state of Rhode Island, no other western jurisdiction has life tenure for high court justices,” Lindgren said. “Term limits would help usher out judges with mental decrepitude and loss of stamina, eliminate strategic retirement for political reasons, reduce animosity in confirmation, and return to traditional levels of judicial independence.” www.law.columbia.edu...


Yet while we're at it it should be paramount to remove the partisan Two Party nature of the selection process.

What are your thought?


I tried posting this in the "Accelerating Change" forum, but couldnt find the category button for some reason...


This would likely result in a record number of assassination attempts.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

You know what I read here? Trump bad, constitution bad, what if we can't destroy the constitution for over 1000 years? WAAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Jaden



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 03:14 PM
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No need to amend the Constitution (assuming the US still exists when such technology actually is available).

Just preclude Justices from using the technology. Aging testing, like drug testing. That would ensure that candidates were truly dedicated to justice. Winning.

edit on 7/6/2018 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 03:15 PM
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I don’t respect the article. If you want to make the case, then the age of Supreme Court justices deaths are needed, or a average age of the court per decade...something to see it this is a legit or fake news



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 03:18 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Every position in government should be accompanied by a term limit that does not include "death" as the end date.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 03:30 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

The thread title alone is one of the most chilling sentences I've read.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey

Something else I stongly agree on, wish the same for the UK, with the house of lords, 1min clip to a BBC documentry

The youth of UK polotics

Every political position in supposed democracys should all be term limited, do a good enough job and WE the people might vote you back in.......or not



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

This does not exist so discussing it is pointless.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 04:11 PM
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We could make a big public shin dig about this.

Say....when a justice reaches...25 years of term we execute them during halftime of the Superbowl!

This would show dedication, and we could even anoint their replacement with the blood! It'd be one hell of a show!



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: Phage

Just preclude Justices from using the technology. Aging testing, like drug testing. That would ensure that candidates were truly dedicated to justice. Winning.


That sounds fair. "You can be a Justice, but you have to die early for the privilege."



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: Masterjaden
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

You know what I read here? Trump bad, constitution bad, what if we can't destroy the constitution for over 1000 years? WAAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Jaden





posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Every position in government should be accompanied by a term limit that does not include "death" as the end date.


Why?

You're kidding yourself if you think term limits mean anything.

It isn't the person, it's the party. It's not the candidate, it's his donors.

Term limits just mean faster recycling of the same unchanging bulls#.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: NthOther

Thats a separate problem to be addressed, but if they each gonna be in there for 12,000 years then what would be the point there?



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: schuyler
Cart before the horse. Let's see it happen before we freak out well before the fact. Immortality is a pipe dream at the present. Even life extension by any appreciable amount is nowhere near happening. These predictions are only predictions at this point. We can't even cure the common cold.


Says the really really old guy who is an absolute denier of other related emerging techs, such as artificial intelligence, despite the already in the open adavances, the trillions of dollars being poured into it all.

Hear ye, hear ye, Schuyler on ATS says it aint possible so the ramifications we should completely ignore.

Fascinating how you could be around for generations now, and see with your own eyes the ever increasingly rapidly evolving march of Accelerating Change, and yet be completely in denial of any and all of the whats comes nexts on our near horizon.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 04:39 PM
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We don't even know what causes aging yet, much less how to stop it or reverse it. So I don't see how this can be reasonably predicted. While body replacement may be possible at some point, the brain also ages.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 04:55 PM
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We can amend the Constitution to give the Scotus ten-year terms to be reappointed and confirmed.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Im sure the Constitution will either be watered down or considered hate speech by then

Books will be illegal too!! Yay!!



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