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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
They exploit it for political theatre, whether it’s virtue-signalling or campaigning.
originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Whats funny is you think Hispanic immigrants are naturally democrats. Majority strict catholics and very conservative minded people. And white identity politics? Is that your new talking point? also, generalizing republicans like theyre all white.
I know this might blow your mind but I know quite a few republicans that aren't white. Several actually
The electoral impact of immigration has been greatest in counties with large populations, where most im-migrants settle. In these locations, Republicans have lost 0.58 percentage points in presidential elections for every one percentage-point increase in the size of the local immigrant population. On average the immigrant share has increased 9.5 percent in these counties.
• In counties of at least 50,000, where the immigrant share increased by at least two percentage points from1980 to 2008, 62 percent saw a decline in the Republican percentage. In counties with at least a four percent-age-point increase, 74 percent saw a decline in the GOP vote. In counties with at least a six percentage-point
gain in the immigrant share, 83 percent saw a decline in the GOP vote share.
• Republicans have remained competitive in presidential elections because losses in high-immigration countieshave been offset by steady gains in low-immigration counties.
• Even in Texas and Florida, often thought to be an exception, the rising immigrant population across counties is associated with sharply diminished support for Republican candidates.
• In Texas, for example, the estimate shows that for every one percentage-point increase in the immigrant population in a county, the Republican vote share dropped by 0.67 percentage points, which is more than the decline nationally association with immigration.
• The decline does not seem to be associated with the local Republican Party’s position on illegal immigration.
The link is to the goolgle search as the link is a PDF and I don't want anyone to be downloading a PDF that doesn't want to.
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originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: M5xaz
So again, call me stupid but is it really true that illegal immigrants get the right to vote in the US???
Seems nuts to me, they don't get that right in the UK, heck the only rights they get here are detainment centres, healthcare, and 3 meals a day while being processed.
They don’t have the right to vote. But when sanctuary cities aren’t requiring an ID to vote, it doesn’t take a genius to realize they would take advantage of our system and vote in their own favor.
You have been misinformed. States require ID to register. It has nothing to do with "sanctuary cities."
originally posted by: BlueAjah
Easy answer is...
The liberal masses have been brainwashed to think open borders is some kind of humanitarian thing.
Their masters have brainwashed them because immigrants from the south are typically also brainwashed into thinking they must vote Democrat. Legal immigration is not bringing in new blood fast enough for the Dems to take over government, so they are trying to speed up the process. Dems are attempting to be sure that they never, ever lose another election.
Meanwhile, the rest of the country are remaining sensible and shaking our heads at the sheer stupidity.
That's exactly what they're doing. Even when Trump offered them that DACA deal a few months ago, it was pretty much everything they wanted in exchange for the wall, they turned it down. "Who cares about DACA 'kids' getting their citizenship finally like we've been calling for? We need an issue to campaign and fundraise on!"
“I think my positions are going to be what the people in this room come up with,” Trump said during a Cabinet Room meeting with roughly two dozen lawmakers. “If they come to me with things that I’m not in love with, I’m going to do it, because I respect them.”
“When this group comes back with an agreement … I’m signing it,” he said. “I mean, I will be signing it. I’m not going to say ‘oh gee, I want this or I want that.’ I’ll be signing it.”
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said early Saturday morning that, in a Friday meeting with the president, he offered to put the wall "on the table" in a potential deal to avoid a government shutdown.
Later Saturday, Illinois Democratic Rep. Luis Gutierrez, a longtime opponent of Trump's wall, told reporters that he would back off his opposition to the president's plan for the barrier, in order to protect recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA.
"It's not about a wall. We'll build him a wall. Tell us how high you want it. But free the Dreamers," the lawmaker said, according to journalists on Twitter.
Trump said earlier that citizenship for the roughly 700,000 people whose legal protections run out March 5 is “going to happen, at some point in the future, over a period of 10 to 12 years.”
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
They exploit it for political theatre, whether it’s virtue-signalling or campaigning.
That's exactly what they're doing. Even when Trump offered them that DACA deal a few months ago, it was pretty much everything they wanted in exchange for the wall, they turned it down. "Who cares about DACA 'kids' getting their citizenship finally like we've been calling for? We need an issue to campaign and fundraise on!"
originally posted by: TXRabbit
Living in TX for awhile now and knowing quite a few hispanics (US citizens and other), I can tell you that in these cultures, family is everything.
In my personal opinion, I believe a large number of the folks crossing the borders are coming here to join family that are already in the US, at the behest of the family that's here. Entire networks of money-moving, logistics and scheduling exists to move them here (not legally).
Again in my opinion, the large separation of concerns regarding our political parties exists because of votes. One side realizes that there are a significant number of people here from the Southern countries who DO vote and this side wants those votes so what do you think they'll do?
Support initiatives to allow more people into the US so as not to piss off the folks who's votes they currently have.