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The U.S. labor shortage is reaching a critical point

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posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

I have a similar story as you. Only my house was at 25. The difference between me and you is actually understanding reality.

Minimum wage was enough for me to own a cheap car and a low income apartment when I was 18. Thank God because my mom had a nervous breakdown and I had to care for myslef. If I worked harder I could get a promotion or get some overtime and I could also include adequate entertainment in my life.

Today even shift managers making $15 per hour couldn't afford the lifestyle I had at minimum wage.

Like I said you are narcissistic and out of touch with Today's reality.
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posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: introvert

Many of these numbers are determined by geography.
In my area that's a good wage for a kid just out of highschool.
And do those cooks get benefits?

Cdl is a good way to make money but you need to pay for the classes.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: Isurrender73
a reply to: Bluntone22

I have a similar story as you. The difference between me and you is actually understanding reality.

Minimum wage was enough for me to own a cheap car and a low income apartment when I was 18. Thank God because my mom had a nervous breakdown and I had to care for myslef. If I worked harder I could get a promotion or get some overtime and I could also include adequate entertainment in my life.

Today even shift managers making $15 per hour couldn't afford the lifestyle I had at minimum wage.

Like I said you are narcissistic and out of touch with Today's reality.


There is much truth to what you say. Today's economic environment is not near as hospitable and reasonable as it was when we were starting out in life, or our parents, depending on how old you are.

I'm not old, nor young, and it was completely different even when I was getting started in the late 90's early 00's.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: introvert

Many of these numbers are determined by geography.
In my area that's a good wage for a kid just out of highschool.
And do those cooks get benefits?

Cdl is a good way to make money but you need to pay for the classes.


That is true. Location is very important.

In my area, which is not a big city, or a small town, $13 is on the low end of starting wages. Help is so hard to find that $13 will get you a high school kid wanting to scrub toilets or wash dishes.

And the trucking companies will pay you to get you CDL...and pay for the classes.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Isurrender73

If you're 25 you better have a degree or 5 years experience at something.
If your 40, wearing a jumpsuit and not climbing into the cockpit of a fighter jet you probably made some bad decisions in your life.

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I started out in sales after univ. and made an obscene amount of money on straight commission, condos in a tourist town.

It helps to be extremely good looking, full of BS and know people.


Some people got it and some people dont.


Having a decent golf handicap, and being in demand to round out a Nassau or Vegas 4some was worth more than my MA in anthro for getting good gigs with the players.

It's who you know....and you know it!
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posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 11:49 AM
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yeah...and you trump voters were SUCKERED into believing that those "tax breaks" to the tune of 1.2 trillion were going to help the average worker.....trump looks at you voters as one big paper stick with a round piece of candy on it.....I would rub it in a little more, if it didn't hurt honest trustful people



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 11:49 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

My only gripe with your comment is the jumpsuit...have you met workers in the oil and gas industries? These are 6 figure positions, all day every day. Heck I have to throw on the Nomex every so often when I do consulting work for those guys, and when it comes to single earners in the US, I'm in the top 10%. So no, not everyone who wears a jumpsuit has made bad decisions in their lives.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: Hypntick

Twaz a joke dude.
Just saying if you are a 40 year old janitor you might have done few things wrong.
edit on 6-7-2018 by Bluntone22 because: Stupid auto correct



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: introvert

Exactly.
There are opportunities out there.
Just not charity.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 11:55 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: introvert

Exactly.
There are opportunities out there.
Just not charity.


True, but it is not as easy for the up-and-comers in life to live, as it was when you were younger.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 11:58 AM
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originally posted by: jimmyx
yeah...and you trump voters were SUCKERED into believing that those "tax breaks" to the tune of 1.2 trillion were going to help the average worker.....trump looks at you voters as one big paper stick with a round piece of candy on it.....I would rub it in a little more, if it didn't hurt honest trustful people


The tax breaks are helping create jobs and get people off unemployment.

However,

I believe like most wealthy people Trump is out of touch with reality. Most of the bonuses and wage increases went to the top 25% which did nothing for average joe.

The average joe has been hit the hardest by a wage standard that has not kept up with the cost of living. The average Joe is no longer recieving his fair share of the revenue.

Creating millions more low income jobs looks good on paper (unemployment rate) but it is far from actually fixing the problem.

When only the top 25% believe they are recieving a fair share of the dividends the system will collapse. Quality of life is an incentive to work. Continuing to lower my quality of life is incentive to vote Socialism.

If the Democratic Party wasn't usurped by a corrupt, lying, globalist group of facist Trump would have never been elected president. A vote against Hillary was never a vote for Trump. I suggest he pay attention and understand this.

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posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: introvert

Exactly.
There are opportunities out there.
Just not charity.


True, but it is not as easy for the up-and-comers in life to live, as it was when you were younger.


Our parents and grandparents might disagree.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 12:07 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: introvert

Exactly.
There are opportunities out there.
Just not charity.


True, but it is not as easy for the up-and-comers in life to live, as it was when you were younger.


Our parents and grandparents might disagree.


It was actually easier for my parents and grandparents to become home owners than me.

My grandparents simply had to work anywhere full time and they could afford a home.

My parents had to make 25% over minimum wage.

I had to make 50% over minimum wage.

Today you need to make 100% over minimum wage.

Wages are not keeping up with inflation because Corporate Facism labled Capitalism is a system doomed to consume itself and end in failure.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: Isurrender73

What is your suggestion to fix the problem?



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Absurd. This requires the delusional belief that some seem to have that we could have a world with no Janitors. All that belief creates is more people working at McDonalds with PHDs because there's simply not infinite high skilled jobs. It's the fault of people like you pushing this narrative and people dumb enough to buy it that the student debt bubble is where it is.

No matter how skilled and how much effort people put into their lives, most will still be stuck in the low end jobs, there will be just more of them overqualified and in absurd debt.

This is why we need to stop thinking any job should not be a living wage job.
edit on 7/6/2018 by Puppylove because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: introvert

Exactly.
There are opportunities out there.
Just not charity.


True, but it is not as easy for the up-and-comers in life to live, as it was when you were younger.


Our parents and grandparents might disagree.


They can disagree all they want. Fact remains, money does not go as far as it once did.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: Isurrender73




Wages are not keeping up with inflation because Corporate Facism labled Capitalism is a system doomed to consume itself and end in failure.


Trumps trickle down economics and a trade war should fix everything!!




posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: Puppylove



What exactly is a living wage to you?
Does it include a 3 bedroom house.
A new car every 5 years.
Smart phone upgrade every 2 years.
Yearly vacation to Cancun.
Steak or bologna.

Then please explain where the money will come from and how you will deal with the inevitable inflation.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: 727Sky

Been seeing the yellow "pump out of order" bags proliferating at the local gas stations lately?

No drivers available for the fuel delivery trucks! There's a shortage of truck drivers, made worse by the fact that so many can't pass the drug tests and further made worse by the fact that the Oil companies, (I'm speaking from Texas) are bidding up the salaries for truck drivers to drive for oil field work to $80,000.00 a year.

And its only going to get a whole lot worse.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: introvert

I paid all my bills at 18 working 32 hours a week as a bus boy in 2003

Now at 20 an hour I have to watch every penny and nothing I own is new or on debt and I work a trade job

We charge what we charged 25 uears ago for the same service because people dont make as much money there for the market does not demand higher




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