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US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

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posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: PistolPete

They try to do the background checks before and during Basic. It takes months to get your clearances. I've seen guys get all the way to their units, after tech school without them. They can't even touch the jets until they come in. They have to get escorted everywhere, and all they can do is look over someone's shoulder.




posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:02 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

I don’t buy it...

This has propaganda story written all over it..

A) obviously it is taking a couple of isolated incidents and pretending it is large scale.



B) do you know how many people would required to be involved knowing that Policy was gonna blow up...


If it seems to crazy to be true and it would require loads of professionals to be complit. Then it probably is..



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:07 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Phage

Right now? I doubt it. All the services are practically begging people to join.

Huh. Maybe my first thought was not so far fetched.


The Trump Administration added even more hurdles, creating a backlog within the Defense Department. Last fall, hundreds of recruits still in the enlistment process had their contracts canceled. A few months later, the military suspended MAVNI.

Republican Congressman Andy Harris of Maryland, who has supported legislation to limit the program, told the AP that MAVNI was established by executive order and never properly authorized by Congress.

“Our military must prioritize enlisting American citizens, and restore the MAVNI program to its specialized, limited scope,” he said.

apnews.com...

edit on 7/5/2018 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

The army wouldn’t kick all the transgenders out when trump asked them to. Why would they do this??

It seems super fishy.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: PistolPete
a reply to: Zaphod58

Is there a mechanism to appeal the decision or is it a done deal once you've been discharged?

Military Tribunal ?
Yet , the decision may still be set in stone. As there are rules.




posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:12 PM
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originally posted by: Topcraft
Basic grunt positions still have a security clearance, it's just not that high of a one. If memory serves, I believe it is at the secret level. You do need to see intel reports once in a while.
Huh? With respect, anyone in any MOS can request a SC, but most of the time, if its not needed, you won't hear about it or get one. My first Unit was an all Chemical Unit, so we had time to research a bunch of regs.

Like, even though we lived in the barracks, we can submit a request to defer our BAS right back into our checks if we show that we don't eat at the DFAC, most units this would be almost impossible.
Same with a SC, a couple of battles of mine tried out for one and seeing all that paperwork, damn.

11B, 74D, whatever, if you have a good chain of command thats willing to help you dress up your erb that is.
edit on 5-7-2018 by Arnie123 because: Hmmm



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:13 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: Gothmog

These are for basic grunt positions.

Everyone starts there...



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:21 PM
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a reply to: Arnie123

And you still had to undergo an extensive background check regardless.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: Phage

And it clearly says it created a backlog in the checks leading to the suspension.
edit on 7/5/2018 by Zaphod58 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:24 PM
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I had to go through hell in a handbasket for my MOS and continued work.

If you don't cut it?

See ya bitches!



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:24 PM
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I'm having a meltdown as we speak

TRUMP IS LITERALLY HITLER OMG



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Exactly. This has been happening for years
But apparently it's something special now.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Wait, why are they doing these intense backgrounds on them? Is it because they’re a not a citizen so therefore an in-depth background check is standard and always has been?



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Phage

And it clearly says it created a backlog in the checks leading to the suspension.

Yes. It clearly says the administration created more hurdles which created a backlog.

The Trump Administration added even more hurdles, creating a backlog within the Defense Department.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

A speeding ticket? That’s it? There’s more to this story that’s for sure! When did you try joining, what year?



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:37 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog

Military members whose jobs requires a security clearance, eg TS, S, C, only goes to US citizens so this group is null and void for those jobs.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Only US citizens can get a security clearance. These people are working their way to citizenship, therefore invalid. If that was even the case then they would just take a different job that doesn’t require a clearance.

Had I failed my background check the Navy wouldn’t have kicked me out, I’d just get another job.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:40 PM
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a reply to: Swills

They do them on everyone that joins, but they're harder to do on immigrants, because it can take awhile to get everything back. It's been standard practice for as long as I know of. They started a program called MAVNI in 2008, but it was suspended last year, so they can get caught up with the more extensive clearances required.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: Swills


The program was suspended 2017, and in October the Pentagon announced new, more strenuous security clearance standards. For now, the military is focused on catching up on the current group of recruits that has been stuck in limbo. The recruits under the MANVI program are unable to enter basic training until the security clearance review is complete and approved.

citizenpath.com...



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Which is different from being "prioritized" as you said.



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