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Children assaulted at Whataburger for wearing maga hat Civility abandoned....

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posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: ker2010

originally posted by: Greven
Witness says teens in viral MAGA hat video were joking about lynching black people before Whataburger attack

A witness at the scene, who wishes to remain anonymous spoke out and said the teenager hurled racist remarks before the man attacked them.

“They were talking about for the Fourth of July hanging black people from trees that that would be the perfect party. Hopefully, with Donald Trump within the next few years, we can celebrate a white country, a real country without blacks. Maybe we can deport them to Africa,” the witness told KENS-TV.

“They said they wanted it to be legal for white people to kill any other race for the Fourth of July,” the witness said.

There's always more to a story...


WItnesses, and they didnt have a cell phone and record it? Not buying it..........

Hmm strangely the video started at the point a confrontation was already happening.

Why would someone film before that?


Are you kidding? People now a days jump at the chance to record someone making those kinda comments.

A guy in a MAGA hat making racist comments and the person didn't record it?




posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963


Do you happen to know Steve Gern?


Not personally, I might have ran across him, I don't do protection service such as he does.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Greven

Minus some degree of physical confrontation preceding the recording, what can be added that changes the situation? A thug strong armed, intimidated, assaulted, and stole from a 16 year old. If the table was talking smack, so effing what? A 30 year old who cannot control himself in the presence of a 16 year old? Jail, now.

Are 'fighting words' a thing or not?


Not when the speaker is a minor, they're not. That's state law in most states and Texas does consider a 16 year old to be a minor.

I suppose he would have to know that they were minors. Is it perhaps on the books somewhere as such?

Googling isn't helping me out much.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: ker2010

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: ker2010

originally posted by: Greven
Witness says teens in viral MAGA hat video were joking about lynching black people before Whataburger attack

A witness at the scene, who wishes to remain anonymous spoke out and said the teenager hurled racist remarks before the man attacked them.

“They were talking about for the Fourth of July hanging black people from trees that that would be the perfect party. Hopefully, with Donald Trump within the next few years, we can celebrate a white country, a real country without blacks. Maybe we can deport them to Africa,” the witness told KENS-TV.

“They said they wanted it to be legal for white people to kill any other race for the Fourth of July,” the witness said.

There's always more to a story...


WItnesses, and they didnt have a cell phone and record it? Not buying it..........

Hmm strangely the video started at the point a confrontation was already happening.

Why would someone film before that?


Are you kidding? People now a days jump at the chance to record someone making those kinda comments.

A guy in a MAGA hat making racist comments and the person didn't record it?

The filming only starts when the confrontation already has begun.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Greven

Not when you're attacking a minor its not. And theft is never justified.

And in most states, "Fighting words" is used to determine who is the initiator of a fight. Most state's law holds that mere words alone (not credible imminent threats) do not constitute a provocation and therefore not a justifiable reason to use physical force.

This is pretty clearly a hate crime.


Yep!


Ain't like the good ole days anymore when the person who started it got his ass hauled away AFTER an ass whoopin. When the police show up now a days BOTH involved in the spat usually get hauled away. More money for the municipality that way!



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Greven

Nothing those kids could've said justified his actions. Using physical force/intimidation to commit a theft is known as robbery in most jurisdictions.

The unproven allegations of racial remarks aren't anything near justification for this.

You seem to be operating under a false assumption, that I am trying to justify his actions.

I ain't. It's been suggested, per an anonymous witness to a media outlet, that the kids were also assholes.

Was the MAGA hat so offensive that the man threw a drink and stole it? Maybe.
Is it possible that the kids were talking crap to provoke a response? Also maybe.
edit on 16Thu, 05 Jul 2018 16:34:50 -0500America/ChicagovAmerica/Chicago7 by Greven because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

heavy.com... fired from his job,let go from his political group green party he supported

Rumble, a bar in San Antonio where the man works, wrote on Facebook that it had fired him. “It came to our attention earlier this evening that a part-time employee was captured on cell phone video assaulting another person at a local eatery. The assault took place, presumably, because this employee did not agree with the other individuals political stance,” the bar wrote. “We have since terminated this employee, as his actions go against everything that this establishment stands for. Rumble has, and always will be, a bar that is as inclusive as any establishment could possibly be. THIS BAR IS A SAFE SPACE FOR EVERYONE! No matter your race, creed, ethnicity, sexual identity, and political stance, you are welcomed here!
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n an interview, Gavino Zarate, secretary of the Harris County Green Party, who said he was speaking for the state party as a whole on the issue (Jimenez is from the San Antonio area), condemned the incident, which was captured in the viral video that shows a man later identified as Kino Jimenez allegedly tossing a drink on a 16-year-old boy, using a racial slur, and then walking off with the teen’s MAGA hat. “We all have different opinions of our president, but we don’t take it out on innocent kids who just happen to have a hat on,” Zarate told Heavy in an exclusive interview. “You may not like the hat or you may not like the president, but you don’t show that kind of aggression toward teenagers. It goes against everything the Green Party stands for. We are not violent. We do not take our aggression out on innocent young people.” The man’s full name is Kino Ahuitzotl Jimenez.
wonder what his employment options are going to look like after this oh and hes also been arrrested

he man in the video is allegedly named Kino Ahuitzotl Jimenez. A now deleted page said Kino Jimenez was affiliated with the Texas Green Party. However, the party has now kicked him out as a result, an official told Heavy. “Police said a suspect is in custody, but the victim, Hunter, will need to meet with them to positively identify the person,” News4 San Antonio reported.
pending identification by his victim so that should take care of most of the attempted spin on the matter



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:49 PM
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originally posted by: Greven
Witness says teens in viral MAGA hat video were joking about lynching black people before Whataburger attack

A witness at the scene, who wishes to remain anonymous spoke out and said the teenager hurled racist remarks before the man attacked them.

“They were talking about for the Fourth of July hanging black people from trees that that would be the perfect party. Hopefully, with Donald Trump within the next few years, we can celebrate a white country, a real country without blacks. Maybe we can deport them to Africa,” the witness told KENS-TV.

“They said they wanted it to be legal for white people to kill any other race for the Fourth of July,” the witness said.

There's always more to a story...


That news site is already walking back the story, citing concerns that the witness statement can't be verified.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

umm... ya....




Representing himself, Kessler argued that Gasapo’s words — “F--- you ... f--- you, a------ ... crybaby Kessler” — were fighting words and could have incited violence. In the video that Kessler played as evidence, Gasapo also can be heard calling Kessler a “murderer.” Kessler said Gasapo was falsely assigning him blame for the death of Heather Heyer, who was killed in a car attack on the day of the Unite the Right rally, which Kessler organized.

In his suit, Kessler asked that Gasapo be held responsible for the actions that might stem from her words.

“This is an opportunity to bring civility back to our community,” said Kessler.

www.richmond.com... a682a2.html


Kessler was asking for $500, the judge awarded him $5...
but, I guess here in Virginia, or maybe just Charlottesville, one really should watch what one says, and I imagine talking about lynching blacks or shipping them back to africa just might be considered "fighting words"?




Kessler said he felt his character was damaged when Gasapo called him a murderer and that her choice of words could have provoked him to violence.

“There was a chance that I could respond violently and I don’t want that to happen,” he said.


so, the free speech lover isn't in love with free speech when he's the subject of the harsh words... who'd have thought!!



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:49 PM
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Anyone say this is a staged event yet or no?



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:52 PM
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originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Greven

Minus some degree of physical confrontation preceding the recording, what can be added that changes the situation? A thug strong armed, intimidated, assaulted, and stole from a 16 year old. If the table was talking smack, so effing what? A 30 year old who cannot control himself in the presence of a 16 year old? Jail, now.

Are 'fighting words' a thing or not?


Not when the speaker is a minor, they're not. That's state law in most states and Texas does consider a 16 year old to be a minor.

I suppose he would have to know that they were minors. Is it perhaps on the books somewhere as such?

Googling isn't helping me out much.


I'd assume lack of knowledge is not a legal excuse here any more than it would be if we were talking about unlawful sexual relations with a minor.

As an aside on the "fighting words" provocation defense, I find it amusing that the only slur clearly used was the slur shouted at the kid by his assailant... a slur which, unless there's been a recent memo I'm unaware of, isn't "OK" for a non African American to use according to the outrage usually generated when a person of differing political bent from that of the PC NAACP uses the slur.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: texasgirl

lmao, Rawstory! Amazing the people who use that site as a source yet will condemn Alex Jones! Rawstory is digital tabloid trash.



(post by ker2010 removed for political trolling and baiting)

posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: ker2010

I wonder when the "Yo soy Kino" campaign of unity will begin?



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: texasgirl

originally posted by: Greven
Witness says teens in viral MAGA hat video were joking about lynching black people before Whataburger attack

A witness at the scene, who wishes to remain anonymous spoke out and said the teenager hurled racist remarks before the man attacked them.

“They were talking about for the Fourth of July hanging black people from trees that that would be the perfect party. Hopefully, with Donald Trump within the next few years, we can celebrate a white country, a real country without blacks. Maybe we can deport them to Africa,” the witness told KENS-TV.

“They said they wanted it to be legal for white people to kill any other race for the Fourth of July,” the witness said.

There's always more to a story...


That news site is already walking back the story, citing concerns that the witness statement can't be verified.

Well, it could be BS someone made up, too.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 05:01 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: texasgirl

lmao, Rawstory! Amazing the people who use that site as a source yet will condemn Alex Jones! Rawstory is digital tabloid trash.



Actually, it started with Kens5 twitter(local news station), claiming an anonymous witness said they made racist statements. Then the witness started receiving death threats. (How do you get threatened if you're anonymous?) Kens5 had to put up a disclaimer because they couldn't verify the witness statements.
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posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: texasgirl

lmao, Rawstory! Amazing the people who use that site as a source yet will condemn Alex Jones! Rawstory is digital tabloid trash.


It was sourced from this local news site.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: texasgirl

originally posted by: Greven
Witness says teens in viral MAGA hat video were joking about lynching black people before Whataburger attack

A witness at the scene, who wishes to remain anonymous spoke out and said the teenager hurled racist remarks before the man attacked them.

“They were talking about for the Fourth of July hanging black people from trees that that would be the perfect party. Hopefully, with Donald Trump within the next few years, we can celebrate a white country, a real country without blacks. Maybe we can deport them to Africa,” the witness told KENS-TV.

“They said they wanted it to be legal for white people to kill any other race for the Fourth of July,” the witness said.

There's always more to a story...


That news site is already walking back the story, citing concerns that the witness statement can't be verified.


Yep. another liberal coward who can't control his childish emotions caught on video and leftists use the typical response of trying to blame the victim and playing the race card. They really are pathetic.
There are enough people who know who this guy is, so let's hope he pays for his actions.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 05:03 PM
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originally posted by: texasgirl

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: texasgirl

lmao, Rawstory! Amazing the people who use that site as a source yet will condemn Alex Jones! Rawstory is digital tabloid trash.


(How do you get threatened if you're anonymous?) statements.


You dont.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: texasgirl

lmao, Rawstory! Amazing the people who use that site as a source yet will condemn Alex Jones! Rawstory is digital tabloid trash.


It was sourced from this local news site.


Did you notice the disclaimer? They had to remove the quotes from the witness. They couldn't verify it. Puts the whole story into question now.



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