Children assaulted at Whataburger for wearing maga hat Civility abandoned....

a reply to: loam

ETA: I guess I could apologize to the interior design community. Mia culpa.

Witty, charming and funny

Loam you are quickly becoming one of my favorite ATS posters

edit: it is great to see people who can defuse tension with some good natured clean humor

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: DerBeobachter
Why do i have to think of the following pic when i hear Trumpeteers crying and see them melting like "liberal snowflakes", when they reap what they sow:

Little hint for the Trumpeteers, you are the car that drives into the wrong direction. Don´t wonder about the headwinds!

Why do people politicize their own children and make or let them wear clothes with a political statement?
Because the kid is political very interested and educated and this is the opinion of the child?
Yeah, for sure, MAGA-Mommy and MAGA-Pops...

They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind

But crying when reaping the whirlwind and melting after being the biggest hatespreading loudmouth, while sowing the wind, is a bit embarrassing, isn´t it? Maybe not if you have no proud and don´t want to watch in a mirror ever again, without laughing about yourself or almost dying because of shame.

what happened to talking, discussion, agree to disagree, debate?

Alternative facts happened!

Let us know when they begin to approach the level of the youth brigade.

I just thought this post came from a country without constitutionally protected freedom of speech.
I took it as a timely 4th of july reminder of what freedom looks like in other parts of the world. I am sure there are parts of the world where people are assaulted for fanny packs, or socks and black sandals. Savages....

Why is it that when lib defenders can't come up with any other type of defense they cry 'freedom of speech!" as though they want us to think they know what it actually means, what it protects, and what entity it actually restricts?

a reply to: TheJesuit

Ooh hes ethnic...
So that makes it okay to assault a child. Liberal rules folks.

Wonder what it would feel like living in a perpetual state of hate and victimhood like this worthless pos. I bet the kid in the maga hat has already contributed more to his community than that so called human.

mobile.twitter.com...

Twitter from the friend sitting next to him at Whataburger:

Says it was unprovoked. Also says he doesn't share his friend's political views but thinks he has the right to wear the hat.


It's sad to read the comments saying he needs to end his friendship with the victim because the MAGA friend is "racist".

ETA: I no longer see the comments calling his friend a racist.

a reply to: introvert

On one hand they go full drama queen about the violence, and on the other puff their chests and act macho, making many claims about what they would do if that were their kid.

Because the unwarranted attacks are despicable.

Self-defense is not unwarranted nor an attack - it is the defensive (and importantly: lawful) use of violence to protect yourself/your family/others from dangerous and violent threats.

Attacking someone is unacceptable.
Responding to that attack with physical force is acceptable.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
How anyone can defend someone assaulting a child, and stealing the childs property I will never understand.

Well...

We didn't see the entire situation.
The video looked fake.
The kid must have said the N-word to the nice man having a burger before hand.
The kids was antagonising everyone on purpose by wearing a MAGA hat.
The kid is obviously a beta since he didn't stand up and beat the guy up.
... and other things.

fact is, kino has ruined his life and none of this matters now. When the left realise that being obnoxious, violent bigots doesn't work, I can only assume the next step is going to be a very dark one.

All the left leaning posters here seem to proclaim their love for tolerance and understanding. All the while ignoring the intolerance and ignorance their kin are rife with. "It's not all of them!" but it's enough of them.

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: mkultra11

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

There is no excuse for the actions in the video.
Crazy that some here seem to think there are.

If I were that kids parent, I would press charges for assault and battery and also sue him and the food chain in civil court. All civil and completely legal reactions to this incident.

I just don't understand how some here can justify this behavior.
The kid could have had anything on his hat, pokemon, bernie ect...there is no reason for ANY violent reaction to free speech.

I think kino was in his own way trying to teach the kid a lesson.

Lesson is, if you're a prick to kids and get on the internet being as such, you're life will change and not for the better.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

Why is it that when lib defenders can't come up with any other type of defense they cry 'freedom of speech!" as though they want us to think they know [n]what it actually means, what it protects, and what entity it actually restricts?

Yes, how many of them believe it applies to other citizens

Just like the ones who believe "separation of powers" means anything other than three co-equal branches of government. Some understand this, yet still pretend that ABC agencies are anything but subordinates of the Executive branch

Great to see this pointed out Teikiatsu

a reply to: SummerRain

It is unfortunate SR Some folks actually believe acts of unprovoked violence are equal to free speech/expression

They think that racism, unpopular speech or different political views are valid reasons to commit crimes against Americans

They truly don't understand how wrong/ideologically corrupt they have become

To see children assaulted for exercising their rights is the antithesis of American values

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: introvert

Fair enough.

Explain.

On one hand they go full drama queen about the violence, and on the other puff their chests and act macho, making many claims about what they would do if that were their kid.

It's quite funny, but not uncommon.

I spent many years in locker rooms listening to idiot men and boys talk the same sort of trash, yet when actually confronted with such a situation, they fold like little pansies.

So I see no logic in making vast generalizations for the sake of politics, or acting like a macho meat-headed # sack that talks trash about what they would do if that were them.

You wouldn't defend your child? You wouldn't defend a old lady if she were getting beat up or her purse stolen? Stop projecting your WEAK COWARDLINESS on others bro!!!

Like I said just because you are a spineless coward doesn't mean others are.

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: SummerRain

Remember, all of that comes from this new bizarre logic that if you talk with a political opponent, that somehow normalizes their beliefs.

????

Nutcases.

It's insanity. Literally. I gave up long ago trying to talk to socialists here. the green left were never ones to have an open dialogue. But one on one, they just repeat the same things, despite having had their argument dismantled for them.

What it boils down to, is without open discussion, everything stagnates. Even here, someone started a thread the other day just to ask what is it the left want done, in terms of border security and how illegal immigrants are treated.

I think it too 10 pages or so, before the back and forth "Trump is bad mmmkay!" rhetoric to cease, before someone actually offered their ideas. Not sure how it went after that. But it shows that even when it is asked, rather than have open discussion, some people prefer to accuse the questioner of having an agenda worthy of dismissal, and continue the screaming.

You ever been so drunk that your face stops working? Someone asks you a question, and you end up throwing your arms around and mumbling incoherently in between screeching? I sometimes feel that is how the far left are, perpetually.

originally posted by: sine.nomine
The attacker has apparently already been doxxed, and has apparently lost his job over this. At least he must have felt like a big man briefly. I don't wish doxxing on anybody, even this douche. However, he threw that cup of ice with some force, so at least I hope they reported it to the police. We need violent attackers of minors in prison.

Exposing a criminal isn't doxxing, it's justice.

You can have my MAGA hat when you pry it from my cold dead hands!

Molon Labe hat nazi's!

a reply to: JBurns

Thanks for the kind words...

Leaving aside all violent-self-defense-irony-and-hypocrisy-discussion (my head hurts), humor is always a good choice when deciding how to react to the craziness in the world.

Off to make penance for my transgressions.... we need new throw pillows and lamps for the guest bedroom. I promise to virtue signal with the first interior designer I encounter. Perhaps we can scream at the sky together over a latte.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: sine.nomine
The attacker has apparently already been doxxed, and has apparently lost his job over this. At least he must have felt like a big man briefly. I don't wish doxxing on anybody, even this douche. However, he threw that cup of ice with some force, so at least I hope they reported it to the police. We need violent attackers of minors in prison.

Exposing a criminal isn't doxxing, it's justice.

Well the kid has said that he didn't press charges. Others telling him that this gives a green light to other like minded miscreants that they will get away with it.

Either way, the evidence is there, and was witnessed by others, so the charge should still have legs. We'll see how that pans out.

And as I've said, either way, kino is going to regret this event. I feel sorry for his mother. Given what I've read thus far.

The "adult" in the situation is in the wrong.

All this back and forth about this being indicative of liberals, the left, etc. is not helping.

Anyone who makes political "points" off this is not much better than the jackwagon who threatened a kid, IMO.

originally posted by: loam
we need new throw pillows and lamps for the guest bedroom. I promise to virtue signal with the first interior designer I encounter. Perhaps we can scream at the sky together over a latte.

I saw a video the other day of some really cool ways to make throw pillow cases using home made dye and river stones. No interior designer laws were broken, 100% legal.

Salt lamps are good too and no, don't lick them. You always read about people just having to see.. but thing is, the salt absorbs the moisture from the air, so you're licking the sweat and breath of everyone who has ever come in contact with it, really.



Then after you've finished screaming at the sky (only makes it rain somewhere else) we can get back to being nazi racists deserving of punishment meted out by any means from the leftist populace.

o:

a reply to: TheJesuit

I blame Maxine Waters and and all those who are supporting the harassment of children. There is a fine line that should not be crossed by either side; and that line is the child.

Once either side targets children, they are automatically in the wrong. I care not if you are left or right. This was WRONG on so many levels, this was theft of property, and this was also bullying.

Grown Adults should know better. But that man is clearly not a man but a coward who targets children.

Shame on that man and those who support this action.

a reply to: SummerRain

You wanna say your piece, then say it. Talk. Discuss.

I did.

Something we don't ever see from the left. All we get is screaming histrionics.

Perhaps it's because you are others are not interested in listening.

But you target innocent kids, half your size and you bet your ass you're going to get an equal amount of anger vented towards you.

I agree. It seems natural that people vent their anger in many forms.

We are not all that much different in that aspect. That is why I find it funny that people want to claim this sort of act is "typical" of any political ideology.

It's typical of being human.

Trying to pin it on a political ideology for the sake of perpetuating narratives is not only dishonest, but completey wrong.

Imagine had this been a maga hat wearing guy walking up to a group of young democrats, and swiping their pussy hats off their heads, swearing at them and throwing their food at them. It would have broken the MSM with how much air time it got, and caused the left to protest nation wide. You'd see even more inane violent protests. You lot don't even understand half the things you protest. "Ooooh a sign, can I has one?" And you know it.

I cannot agree with such a dramatic statement. People need to stop being drama queens and come back to reality.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: introvert

On top of that, it is hypocritical to clutch pearls about some idiot throwing ice in someone's face, claiming it is typical violence from the Left, then go on to fantasize about how they would commit violence in kind in order to defend one's self or family in a hypothetical situation.

You wouldn’t defend a child from getting bullied? There is nothing hypocritical about defending others from bullying and persecution. What an embarrassing and stupid remark.

I said no such thing. I would defend a child.

But on the other hand, I don't get my panties twisted when someone throws a cup of ice in someone's face.

What's embarrassing is how macho many of you talk, yet you fold like little bitches at the idea of a leftist throwing a tantrum.