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Protester's try to stop ICE from breaking up a child sex trafficking ring

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posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: JoshuaCox


So what would you call it when the OP pretends like this means the protestors were pro-pedophile??

When someone protests a group like ICE while they are on a raid to bust human traffickers, outside the house where they are busting human traffickers, it gives most people the idea that the protestors care more about what they are protesting than they do about stopping human trafficking. That does not mean they are protesting the arrest of human traffickers, but it does mean people who see it will get the impression they are.

It's the same thing that happened with the NFL and the kneeling. I know that the players were not intending to disrespect the flag and the country, but their choice of venue, making their protest at the same time the national anthem was playing, gave that impression. The result? The NFL lost a ton of money as fans simply tuned out, and the protests did nothing to help the cause.

The protests are so ill-informed it is ridiculous anyway. As has already been stated, CBP, not ICE, is doing the family separation thing. HHS is the group that places the children in foster care. ICE is actually the agency that reunites children with their real parents, after verification of identity, once asylum is denied.

So not only does it appear as though the protests are in support of human trafficking, they also appear to be in protest of deporting criminals. So it's not a big leap of logic that if the protestors are in support of not deporting illegal immigrants, they must also be in support of the things some illegal immigrants do... like human trafficking, dangerous drug importation, and general crime.

Good luck changing that perception standing in front of a traffiicking house protesting the people arresting the traffickers. That's sorta like the NFL players burning an American flag in effigy during their national anthem protest to prove they aren't anti-American.

TheRedneck



It’s beginning to look beyond obvious they could care less about these children that they are having massive protests about and are just empty-headedness TDS. ICE is tying to stop it before it starts, and somehow that is a bad thing. I say let them have as much rope as possible, as the old adage goes.




posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 11:18 PM
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oops
edit on 4-7-2018 by valve because: noob



posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 11:21 PM
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a reply to: bloodymarvelous


Right. But how would they know?

They wouldn't. That's the point. They had no idea what was happening, but they protested it anyway.


A mistake like this only shows us that most protesters aren't psychic.

Which is a very good reason to stay out of the way of law enforcement actions.

There could very well have been a firefight, in which case we would likely be discussing the dead protestors.


They saw ICE moving on a house, which 9 out of 10 times means they're deporting somebody, and they decided to make their feelings known about deportation. Obviously they couldn't have known it was a child prostitution bust.

So they took a gamble?

Well, guess what? They lost.

Too bad, so sad. Boo-hoo. Next time figure out what you're doing before you do it.

TheRedneck



posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 11:57 PM
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a reply to: diggindirt

What Ive learned in this thread...

When you run out of deflection tactics, blame the jackets!



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 01:53 AM
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originally posted by: tribal
a reply to: TheRedneck

i am unaware of the situation you are referencing. There were protesters outside a known or suspected human trafficking operation?


YES. People were protesting ICE while they were in the process of MAKING a human trafficking bust. That's the topic of the thread. Watch the video in the OP and you'll see. Unbelievable.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 01:57 AM
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a reply to: riiver


Unbelievable.

Maybe that's part of the problem... no one can get their heads around the fact that people were this dumb...

TheRedneck



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 06:38 AM
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originally posted by: xBWOMPx
a reply to: toysforadults

Its the flouride maaaan, its all the flouride they put in the water... Flouride must be strong over there! =B

I recall a theory that was bandied about a long time ago that stated Cosmic Energy was predicted to cause people to be affected in negative ways that might make folks get upset easily.

A very deep subject to try to study. Here are a few sites to help people ponder the concept.

www.heartmath.org...

isha.sadhguru.org...

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 06:42 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: toysforadults

ICE also prevent Mexican border volcano's and protect us from world killing meteor impacts that strike outside the US borders.


We suspected you were super smart and now wonder wth?

"Riddle me this Batman"

"What did that have to do with the price of tea in China" or the subject of a Child rape ring being caught by the ICE/NSA investigation?



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 06:53 AM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Phage

you think to much, or not enough not sure

www.ice.gov...

www.ice.gov...




U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) enforces a wide range of crimes related to border security, including investigations of human smuggling and human trafficking. In fact, ICE is one of the primary federal agencies responsible for combating human trafficking.


The pattern for that one is to only think down the agenda line. There is very little wandering from preset goals that are clearly to me about not following the facts to keep that agenda going, at this point. I have totally lost my trust in getting the real truth anymore on more and more subjects from those posts lately.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:16 AM
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a reply to: tribal
I see all sides of the coin. None of it is pretty. Just looking at my personal experience with human trafficking of illegal immigrants, that came or were sent here under false pretenses for slave labor and or sexual slavery, the numbers are large.

I have had patients that have come forward only because their children were at risk for continuation of the sexual abuse that started with them. Many are sent here by their parents because they believe their children will have better lives. Not realizing that the old family friend, uncle, aunt, or agent, many bring their children into America and into a life of hell, abuse, servitude, and sexual exploitation. Boys are no safer than girls in the sordid industry that is human trafficking.

I believe we should err on the side of caution. The parents are willing to take the risk to get their children here. We can't afford to risk their lives for the sake of political gain. The children have to be vetted. If not, then we are aiding in the evil industry, and it is not worth the life of one child, to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to the real problems that are not being discussed, because it would be detrimental to their agenda.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:16 AM
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originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: toysforadults

ICE also prevent Mexican border volcano's and protect us from world killing meteor impacts that strike outside the US borders.


We suspected you were super smart and now wonder wth?

"Riddle me this Batman"

"What did that have to do with the price of tea in China" or the subject of a Child rape ring being caught by the ICE/NSA investigation?


Because the story is spin.

The protestors weren't protesting against preventing child sex trafficking.

The MSM were the ones trying to use the protesters mix-up as propaganda.

The stoopid is not the protestors error, nor the propagandizing, but the acceptance that ICE should be allowed to do whatever they want without restriction.

People who have been awaiting legal process, under the The DREAM Act (short for Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act), and have been living in the US for as long as 16 years waiting to be made 'legals', are being detained by authorities as illegals because Trump has tried to can the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (Daca) process (from 5 September 2017) and killed the hope of passing the DREAM act at the end of July 2018.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:37 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: bloodymarvelous


Right. But how would they know?

They wouldn't. That's the point. They had no idea what was happening, but they protested it anyway.


A mistake like this only shows us that most protesters aren't psychic.

Which is a very good reason to stay out of the way of law enforcement actions.

There could very well have been a firefight, in which case we would likely be discussing the dead protestors.


They saw ICE moving on a house, which 9 out of 10 times means they're deporting somebody, and they decided to make their feelings known about deportation. Obviously they couldn't have known it was a child prostitution bust.

So they took a gamble?

Well, guess what? They lost.

Too bad, so sad. Boo-hoo. Next time figure out what you're doing before you do it.

TheRedneck


Best summation of the situation right here.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:51 AM
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These people just get riled up by the media and act exactly as they were told to. Too bad it backfired this time. Absolute brainless morons.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 07:56 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: toysforadults

ICE also prevent Mexican border volcano's and protect us from world killing meteor impacts that strike outside the US borders.


We suspected you were super smart and now wonder wth?

"Riddle me this Batman"

"What did that have to do with the price of tea in China" or the subject of a Child rape ring being caught by the ICE/NSA investigation?


Because the story is spin.

The protestors weren't protesting against preventing child sex trafficking.

The MSM were the ones trying to use the protesters mix-up as propaganda.

The stoopid is not the protestors error, nor the propagandizing, but the acceptance that ICE should be allowed to do whatever they want without restriction.

People who have been awaiting legal process, under the The DREAM Act (short for Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act), and have been living in the US for as long as 16 years waiting to be made 'legals', are being detained by authorities as illegals because Trump has tried to can the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (Daca) process (from 5 September 2017) and killed the hope of passing the DREAM act at the end of July 2018.


I disagree that it is spin. It is a fact the whole thing is about hating on ICE doing it's job and then when learning the site is a pedo house with victims they continue.

Logic fail on the left and ultimately your part too, apparently.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 08:02 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: toysforadults

ICE also prevent Mexican border volcano's and protect us from world killing meteor impacts that strike outside the US borders.


We suspected you were super smart and now wonder wth?

"Riddle me this Batman"

"What did that have to do with the price of tea in China" or the subject of a Child rape ring being caught by the ICE/NSA investigation?


Because the story is spin.

The protestors weren't protesting against preventing child sex trafficking.

The MSM were the ones trying to use the protesters mix-up as propaganda.

The stoopid is not the protestors error, nor the propagandizing, but the acceptance that ICE should be allowed to do whatever they want without restriction.

People who have been awaiting legal process, under the The DREAM Act (short for Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act), and have been living in the US for as long as 16 years waiting to be made 'legals', are being detained by authorities as illegals because Trump has tried to can the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (Daca) process (from 5 September 2017) and killed the hope of passing the DREAM act at the end of July 2018.
I think we understand that they didn't know what was going on. They have zero right to stop ICE unless they know they are breaking some law. What laws is ICE breaking in anything you mentioned? If you don't like laws that is your problem. ICE isn't doing anything wrong here that I can see.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 09:34 AM
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originally posted by: CthulhuMythos
People are suspicious of the authorities because so many times it has come out that they are actually the ones doing the trafficking or abusing, especially once a kid is taken from the parents or guardians (with no proof of abuse by the parents or guardians) and then put into the care system. Seems to happen a lot in UK.
These people have been told by the corrupt and complicit Deep State media that ICE is bad because the democrats said that all illegals should have rights to everything here. That's what is about. It's just that plain.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Wardaddy454




Its called "Illegal" Immigration, but many feel it shouldn't be an enforced law. So, they would still do this.
Yes. While not impeding enforcement of the crimes which HSI is dutied with enforcing. You know, like trafficking. If the difference were more clear, the enforcement of very serious crimes (like trafficking), instead of misdemeanors, could well be better carried out. Witnesses might not be fearful of coming forward. Protestors might not protest.




So are you proposing that instead of people informing themselves, we do the work for them, and think Illegal immigration should not be enforced?



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: toysforadults

ICE also prevent Mexican border volcano's and protect us from world killing meteor impacts that strike outside the US borders.


We suspected you were super smart and now wonder wth?

"Riddle me this Batman"

"What did that have to do with the price of tea in China" or the subject of a Child rape ring being caught by the ICE/NSA investigation?


Because the story is spin.

The protestors weren't protesting against preventing child sex trafficking.

The MSM were the ones trying to use the protesters mix-up as propaganda.

The stoopid is not the protestors error, nor the propagandizing, but the acceptance that ICE should be allowed to do whatever they want without restriction.



In other words, what you're saying if lefty protesters once again can't be bothered to think things thru, consider consequence and figure out who or what they're even protesting against.

So we agree.

This is one of the problems with modern lefties. They are all emotion. To the point they're so obsessed with "ICE" that they show up to a sex trafficking operation and protest in favor of the traffickers, whether by intent or not. That they even show up to protest ICE, along with the implication ICE should be disbanded, the newest leftist insane platform, suggests they do not care about child sex trafficking as ICE is one of the agencies who targets traffickers.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: toysforadults

So friends and family of the accused are peacefully standing around in protest of a person they believe to be innocent.

They didn't stop ice from doing their job.

They know and love the person being accused.

And you call them morons.

If your family or friends protest your arrest would they to be morons?


Why did you spin this in a way to try and divide people?

Do you have any proof that the person being investigated was found guilty of a crime?

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posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 11:32 AM
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I can not believe how many ats members fell for this 2 min long video the media put out specifically to work up our emotions.



Do any of you have any proof that the person in that house was found guilty of a crime?

Is there even any evidence that these are not american citizens?

Guilty until proven innocent ? Is that what we want?



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