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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
So what would you call it when the OP pretends like this means the protestors were pro-pedophile?
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: toysforadults
You just said this means the protestors were pro-pedophile?!?!
So who has a problem with reality?!?!
Lol
And the story itself makes a legit point in ICE’s favor.. and makes the protestors look foolish..
Your the one who turned this thread into propaganda for stupid people..
So what would you call it when the OP pretends like this means the protestors were pro-pedophile??
When someone protests a group like ICE while they are on a raid to bust human traffickers, outside the house where they are busting human traffickers, it gives most people the idea that the protestors care more about what they are protesting than they do about stopping human trafficking.
originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: carewemust
you may not have put it in the mud pit happens to me once in a while too so I just put em all here now
originally posted by: tribal
a reply to: JoshuaCox
i probably seldom agree with you on much, but on this point i think you are correct. Its not logical or helpful to try to connect those who are protesting ICE probably to a great degree based on MSM messaging and ignorance about what ICE does to pedofilia or supporting human trafficking. I think most "liberals" or even "leftists" if cornered as individuals and asked if they supported human trafficking would passionately and truthfully exclaim they do not, and i would tend to believe them.
however, there is also the unanswered point as to why the MSM narrative on the separation of children is not including information about the blight of human trafficking that is documented and known to exist and is part of the reason the children are being separated. I have heard and read anecdotally that as much as 20 percent of all children brought with adults are not even related which is further evidence as to why it makes sense to vet those claiming familial ties. Would you care to posit a theory as to why the MSM and protestors are not addressing this fairly well known fact?
originally posted by: tribal
so, there is room for a nuanced understanding here of what ICE does and those that are choosing not to acknowledge the broad law enforcement powers ICE has while trying to make it all about human trafficking are not helping the debate at all in my opinion. Phage appears to be correct at identifying the various kinds of law enforcement activity that fall under ICE and not all of that activity is centered on preventing human trafficking. That is why i suggested that for political and social reasons it would probably be a REALLY good idea to separate ICE into different agencies based on their actual law enforcement priorities and it would actually be a win for Trump which is why i dont know why he wouldnt do it, i know i would.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: JoshuaCox
So what would you call it when the OP pretends like this means the protestors were pro-pedophile??
When someone protests a group like ICE while they are on a raid to bust human traffickers, outside the house where they are busting human traffickers, it gives most people the idea that the protestors care more about what they are protesting than they do about stopping human trafficking. That does not mean they are protesting the arrest of human traffickers, but it does mean people who see it will get the impression they are.