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Pasteur's Germ Theory Is Wrong

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posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 07:16 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: one4all

So, no, you have not replicated the experiments and have no intention of doing so. There is no point in book knowledge if it is not complimented by experience. In French "experience" means experimentation.


Why reinvent the wheel.


Listen don't feel bad that I have ruptured your perfect world...lol...and if you follow the links I gave you WILL NOT be able to go back......lol....listen its not only you and your Profession that are being redefined since the internet came along.....every area of academia is being redefined.....I am looking at a shard of petrified red meat with all of the fat and sinews and flesh absolutely and clearly defined it even feels like meat to the touch and I easily discovered how and why this happened and it proves out the levels of bastardisation in another area of study we have been deceived in at every level..... oil is not millions of years old it is in some cases thousands of years old.....we could go on and on and on and simply flush most degrees down the crapper where they belong....we will keep the learned minds and straighten them out but the rest of the deceptions needs to be 86ed.




posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 07:24 AM
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originally posted by: LiberateEarth

originally posted by: one4all
. . . you wish to engage to defend the men and women doing the work but its pointless because they are controlled completely by their bosses and their fiscal controllers.

It must be excruciating for people working in healthcare to come to conclusions about the work that they do that are counter to everything that is of value and meaning to them.

An example that comes to my mind is the life experience of physician Suzanne Humphries.

She resigned her job in a hospital because she could not in good conscious continue due to hospital policy regarding vaccinations being given to her patients.

She is the co-author of the book Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and The Forgotten History.

This is the future....humanity is built upon good well intentioned people...and moral compass readings lead some to the right path...…once good people SEE what lies have been told to them they never forget the betralal and once their skeptical go on they begin to quickly see the truths...it doesn't take much to help a cancer researcher who is being honest to find the truths because they have been danced all around the truths since they began researching....they just need a small tiny boost that allows them to bring their defenses online so they can get out of the misdirective cycle they have been embedded in.


More and more good people who are well intended but have been fooled are now turning the corner and beginning to lend their expertise to online learning in anonymity while they continue to earn paycheques doing work they no longer have complete faith in....and this is the exact dynamic we need to attract or recruit the most impactfull inquiring dogged minds out there to the truths.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 08:07 AM
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a reply to: one4all

It's hard to read your post because you forgot the close quote tag.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 09:14 AM
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There is no point in arguing with one4all, he is a fanatic on the subject and no amount of actual evidence or facts will matter. All you can do is lead a horse to water, sometimes they would rather die than drink.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 09:19 AM
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originally posted by: LiberateEarth
There is an excellent book that all parents should read. It is entitled Good-Bye Germ Theory: ending a century of medical fraud and how to protect your family by Dr. William P. Trebing.


The following is an interview with the person who wrote the Foreword of the book, Dr. Tedd Koren, that was posted on YouTube in 2008:




posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: one4all

Humphries takes certain liberties with facts. For instance she uses Measles mortality rate to say fewer people were getting Measles. It's a lie, fewer were dying because of better care, the actual percentage being infected was the same. So why would she use mortality rate instead of infection rate .. oh that's right, to peddle her crap.

She also makes claims about the Measles vaccine that are based on a version that was only used for a few years in the 60s and was never used since. So how is she making claims about the current vaccine based on data gathered on a version that hasn't been used in 50 years? That's right, because the aim is to mislead.

You are being lied to. It's your life.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 09:32 AM
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Humpries - Fact:I am a Physicist and Medical Doctor, not a homeopath.



You can't make this stuff up.
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posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
There is no point in arguing with one4all . . .

I don't think there's any point in arguing with you, either.

There's no point in arguing this topic; people just dig in their heels.

This thread is for open-minded people who are not defending anything; they're doing research.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: LiberateEarth

I have no medical degree. Everything I know is from research. I have done actual lab work. The ideas you are espousing are ludicrous. Bacteria, virus, and fungus have very different DNA, they are not the same organism.

The heroes you have are charlatans, like Hulda who said she can cure cancer and yet died of it. Humphries who still works as a Dr. and flip flops saying she is a homeopath and then says she isn't then says she is and butchers actual research to peddle nonsense.

Show me the provable, testable, verifiable work you believe in and then show me actual evidence for it. There is none. Anyone who could do these things would find 10 people and cure them all and be on the news and be a billionaire. It's fake news.
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posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 10:20 AM
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Name-calling is a cheap shot and fallacy of reason.

I've noticed that people defending the status quo resort to it often.

It's important that people not be fooled by it.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: one4all

I see you are still not providing any evidence, only massive rants that are sometimes difficult to read due to lack of punctuation, and telling me to research. You also resorted to slander by calling me a minion, etc, which says a lot more about you than me. But each to their own.

I have done my own research for years and I can tell you this:

- Bacteria cannot become another organism, at least not on this planet. I have asked you to show me the process of bacteria morphing into a parasite, but you have not.

- Ortho-phospho-tyrosine does not exist. What exists is phosphotyrosine which is not what Hulda Clark said it is. I have asked you to show me the chemical composition of Ortho-phospho-tyrosine but you have not.

-Phosphotyrosine is not a growth factor, it actually is a section of a receptor that sticks together to a growth factor. If you think this is wrong then please show evidence (evidence, not a undecipherable rant).

- Hulda said the cause of all disease is a parasite called Fascioloscis buski. This parasite is real but it's only found in people living in Asian countries. What has it got to do with the West?

There you go, 4 simple points that you can refute if you have evidence. Hulda Clark had zero proof for all her claims, only fictional testimonials. Her death and her brother death's of cancer actually tell us she was all lies, leeching off desperate people's money. Perhaps you can show me the scientific evidence that can change my mind.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 10:55 AM
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a reply to: LiberateEarth

So you got nothing. What I thought.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
There is no point in arguing with one4all, he is a fanatic on the subject and no amount of actual evidence or facts will matter. All you can do is lead a horse to water, sometimes they would rather die than drink.


You couldn't lead a snowflake into a blizzard with your weak party line defense....lol....you cannot accept that the entire world doesn't accept your credentials or your degree or your professional so-called acumen....lol...you shouldn't be so sensitive.....lol...I might begin to enjoy this if you keep squirming like a worm and fail to do your homework.


Why no refrences to the links...lol...maybe because all of the answers you waste your life and time looking for are ALREADY IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN....you are afraid of the truth because it makes you worth less than a bent penny in your own eyes...good thing we all don't believe the schtick you were taught in school.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: one4all

Humphries takes certain liberties with facts. For instance she uses Measles mortality rate to say fewer people were getting Measles. It's a lie, fewer were dying because of better care, the actual percentage being infected was the same. So why would she use mortality rate instead of infection rate .. oh that's right, to peddle her crap.

She also makes claims about the Measles vaccine that are based on a version that was only used for a few years in the 60s and was never used since. So how is she making claims about the current vaccine based on data gathered on a version that hasn't been used in 50 years? That's right, because the aim is to mislead.

You are being lied to. It's your life.


You are so wrong and so missing the point here....lol....what we look for today when we do high level scientific research together online which is far superior to what you do is this.....we form our own status quo bubbles and we function within them as a way to ignore you....then we go back through research done before you were born and since then looking for major and minor DEPARTURE POINTS where the data was intentionally screwed...meaning we go back and we pinpoint every single place along YOUR LITTLE LIFE where you were LIES TO.....and we then stop there and look around until we see the hidden data paths some people who are now likely dotards tried to hide from us all to earn their dirty paydays just like you earn yours from defending the poisoned status quo.This is why your degree is worthless....yu are not worthless and your knowledge base is not worthless but as long as you remain in that equation everything is tainted.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: one4all

Like I said, feel free to remain ignorant. If what you claim is true all you need to do is find some cancer patients, cure them, go on TV, become a billionaire.

Drop me a line when you get your interview.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: one4all

I see you are still not providing any evidence, only massive rants that are sometimes difficult to read due to lack of punctuation, and telling me to research. You also resorted to slander by calling me a minion, etc, which says a lot more about you than me. But each to their own.

I have done my own research for years and I can tell you this:

- Bacteria cannot become another organism, at least not on this planet. I have asked you to show me the process of bacteria morphing into a parasite, but you have not.

- Ortho-phospho-tyrosine does not exist. What exists is phosphotyrosine which is not what Hulda Clark said it is. I have asked you to show me the chemical composition of Ortho-phospho-tyrosine but you have not.

-Phosphotyrosine is not a growth factor, it actually is a section of a receptor that sticks together to a growth factor. If you think this is wrong then please show evidence (evidence, not a undecipherable rant).

- Hulda said the cause of all disease is a parasite called Fascioloscis buski. This parasite is real but it's only found in people living in Asian countries. What has it got to do with the West?

There you go, 4 simple points that you can refute if you have evidence. Hulda Clark had zero proof for all her claims, only fictional testimonials. Her death and her brother death's of cancer actually tell us she was all lies, leeching off desperate people's money. Perhaps you can show me the scientific evidence that can change my mind.




Wow you are getting desperate aren't you huh.....lol....you are doing this intentionally ...tis ok....lol...nope pleomorphic bacteria do not morph into parasites they are CARRIED INTO THE HUMAN BODY BY PARASITES......no pal you did not trap me like you tried to by luring me into describing the bodily impacts Hulda was describing and that are attributed to OrthoPT, I spit that hook out but will now discover why you tried to lure us all there.....lol...must be a reason you are hiding under that rock right....ahhh there it is you putzer….lol..... phosphotyrosine is as I postulated the remains of the mass of the pleomorphic bacteria that has shed said mass is detectable and it seems to me this is exactly how it is done by identifying this indicator chemical....so give it up man Hulda named what she found and later science re-named it so big deal whats your point progress is natural ...lol....there is your answer and your definition of what phosphotyrosine does fits like a key...now doesnt it....lol...thanks man....you just saved us a lot of time.

Hulda showed us how we are all being farmed by humanitarian terrorists who are using our basic biology against us....yes it is like a horror movie when you grasp it all....and you pal are a real life link in this chain of destruction for you have been unwittingly indoctrinated via your bastardised albeit mainstream accepted education and influences.

Really you just posted 4 more little squirms on the big hook of truth...lol...and I just made sure you cannot get off so easily......now you know what phosphotyrosine is in terms of the parasitic /cancer relationship it is evidence of the pleomorphic bacteria actioning a change in itself and shedding mass it no longer needs or requires....this is soooo fun do you have more for me....picking your brain saves me time researching online when you finally begin spitting out usable data.
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posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: one4all

Like I said, feel free to remain ignorant. If what you claim is true all you need to do is find some cancer patients, cure them, go on TV, become a billionaire.

Drop me a line when you get your interview.


We are surrounded by parasite infected people many of whom are being exposed to the chemical cocktails needed to trigger the pleomorphic bacteria into changing so there is no shortage of people being murdered as we speak in fact it is in the millions and millions....no court on the planet is prepared to hear this case pal....legalities prevent anyone from saying they cure cancer ...you have to pass the crooked litmus test of the publishing house controlled peer approval process to be able to legally claim you can cure anything and this is how TPTB have been screwing us for so long it is no big news man nothing new at all.....and going on TV is what an attention whore or a crusader would do but pal I am fully confident that no one needs to go to these lengths to figure out what is being done to us all and many MANY people are doing this as we speak so I am comfortable with that dynamic.....money has nothing to do with lies,some of us don't like to be lied to plain and simple....and we also don't feel the need to force others to change their perspectives...I am ok with the masses being screwed over it is not my problem and I look after my own first
and then there is not much time left to work with...however whenever I bump into the dark side and people who are being unwittingly indoctrinated into the dark side of our world I do my best as we pass in the night to help them find the light of truth.

I give the interviews ...lol...and you arent doing so well right now...LMAO.


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posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: one4all

Let me know when you are a billionaire after curing the world's diseases.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 02:34 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: one4all

Let me know when you are a billionaire after curing the world's diseases.



I arrived here penniless and I expect to be leaving here the same way....lol....billionaire....lol...no one with that much money would have the time to have this much fun...this is priceless.



posted on Jul, 7 2018 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: one4all
Wow you are getting desperate aren't you huh.....lol....you are doing this intentionally ...tis ok....lol...nope pleomorphic bacteria do not morph into parasites they are CARRIED INTO THE HUMAN BODY BY PARASITES......no pal you did not trap me


Desperate about what? We are having a discussion, not competing for a Nobel prize.

Ok, that was a typo, I meant to write yeast/fungi instead of parasites.



phosphotyrosine is as I postulated the remains of the mass of the pleomorphic bacteria that has shed said mass is detectable and it seems to me this is exactly how it is done by identifying this indicator chemical...


Before you said bacteria changes into yeast/fungi, but now you said that bacteria sheds mass and those remains are phosphotyrosine. Hulda Clark doesn't think the same, she said phosphotyrosine is a growth stimulant, a stimulant is usually an aminoacid or hormone. She never mentions phosphotyrosine is mass left behind by a morphing bacteria.

These are her own words:


The presence of Fasciolopsis buski can cause production of a very potent growth stimulant, called orthophosphotyrosine or OPT. OPT is the hallmark of all our cancers. OPT is made when a radioactive element, polonium is present along with the lanthanide, cerium, and the DNA of F. buski itself. -- LINK --


See? No mention of bacteria sheding mass.



.so give it up man Hulda named what she found and later science re-named it


Erm nope, the phosphorylation of tyrosine was discovered in 1980 by Ushiro and Cohen.




there is your answer and your definition of what phosphotyrosine does fits like a key...now doesnt it....lol...thanks man....


No it doesn't, not in real science.



Hulda showed us how we are all being farmed by humanitarian terrorists who are using our basic biology against us....yes it is like a horror movie when you grasp it all....and you pal are a real life link in this chain of destruction for you have been unwittingly indoctrinated via your bastardised albeit mainstream accepted education and influences.


Bastardised education? hahaha once again, slander is the tool of jealous loosers. Go afer the ball, pal, not the player (ATS rules).




Really you just posted 4 more little squirms on the big hook of truth...lol...and I just made sure you cannot get off so easily......now you know what phosphotyrosine is in terms of the parasitic /cancer relationship it is evidence of the pleomorphic bacteria actioning a change in itself and shedding mass it no longer needs or requires....this is soooo fun do you have more for me....picking your brain saves me time researching online when you finally begin spitting out usable data.


Well, I still have points 3 and 4 which you haven't answered. But please be more succinct, it's difficult to understand what you are saying among a continuous rant that at times makes no sense.







 
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