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Pasteur's Germ Theory Is Wrong

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posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 12:19 AM
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originally posted by: Dem0nc1eaner
I don't think the two theories are mutually exclusive are they?

Bechamp felt that providing a good environment for disease was the root cause of illness, whereas Pasteur felt that it was the microbes themselves were the root cause.

Clearly Pasteur was correct - we have used his theories to develop cures and prevent disease.

However, that does NOT mean that Bechamp was incorrect. Providing hostile environments to disease, ie. having a healthy, well-fed body, will prevent you from getting ill.

From our perspective, this surely seems obvious, so why is it an issue?

The issue is that the medical industry cannot make money by telling you that actually, you could probably improve your health or drastically lower your chance of contracting an illness if you were to eat, x, y & z, or by having a daily walk, because then they have nothing to sell you.

Actually, basing medicine on the Pasteur theory has put us where we are now, lots of medication that DOES work, but that causes a plethora of it's own problems.




Bingo....we have identified a point of departure from the truth....both Pasteur and Bechamp were on the right track and one was intentionally sidetracked and suppressed...EXACTLY like Edison and Tesla...EXACTLY......and this was done by the SAME PEOPLE.....which is why the time has come for change....everyone knows how to identify points of departure from sanity and valid honest research....people now KNOW to look back and identify these points of departure.....it is called reverse extrapolation and many many people now use it to discern truths previously hidden.


Now we will have to add Royal Rife to this list and then we can all observe the POINT OF DEPARTURE where he was also screwed and the truths were hidden ....like Tesla and like Bechamp....and like the many others we will eventually be discussing in one forum or another.
edit on 5-7-2018 by one4all because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 12:29 AM
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originally posted by: LiberateEarth
There is a 10 page PDF entitled "Exposing the Myth of Germ Theory" that is housed on The Homeopathy College - Birmingham website.

Here is a screenshot from page 1 and a link to it:




www.homoeopathytraining.co.uk...


The author of the book I reference in the OP is a chiropractor, and the sponsor of this PDF is an advocate for homeopathy.

Both chiropractors and homeopathy are underappreciated by mainstream science.

This is part of what is wrong with mainstream science.

Mainstream science is handicapped by being controlled by profit-seekers.


Excellent point.....keeping in mind that NO MEDICAL DOCTOR could make any statements that go against the grain of their peers....if they do they risk immediate remediation and punishment from their Professional governing body or viscious massive lawsuits.....TPTB has been able to put the fear of god into Professionals by using the legal processes to hammer the life out of them if they step out of the party line.

Both Chiropractors and Homeopaths are free from the bonds that Medical Professionals in other fields are constantly kept under.We can sit here and discuss the causality and cures for cancer as if we are discussing the daily news we can be 100% correct....and...lol...no ONE WILL CARE....lol...because we have ZERO CREDENTIALS and this means we will NEVER BE PEER APPROVED AND PUBLISHED which has traditionally meant that NO ONE WOULD EVER HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY...but ALAS things are now different and the internet has made it possible for anyone anywhere to discuss anything in its entirity in real time.....and eventually this data finds its way into the mainstream....and today it happens at LIGHTENING SPEEDS...hence there is really NO GOING BACK NOW EVER......we will NEVER GO BACKWARDS NOW....the suppression is over....sometimes I really wonder if people are so oblivious that they did not realise that the internet was an open act of war against TPTB...someone dropped a proverbial NUKE in TPTBs playground and we have only seen things escalating as the olde guard are one by one by one remediated.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:28 AM
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originally posted by: LiberateEarth
There is an excellent book that all parents should read. It is entitled Good-Bye Germ Theory: ending a century of medical fraud and how to protect your family by Dr. William P. Trebing.


The cover of Good-Bye Germ Theory speaks loud and clear about the purpose and theme of the book:




Amazon


The fact is, vaccinations are given credit where credit is not deserved.

The accurate timeline of history is that improvements in sanitation, living conditions, and nutrition is where credit is due.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: one4all

Except he is wrong, I work in healthcare, that is EXACTLY what our Doctors say. They absolutely teach prevention is the best solution.

Now I do believe there are valid cases where there are problems. I think cancer is one of those areas.
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posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 08:13 AM
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a reply to: LiberateEarth

You can keep quoting yourself and ignoring me but everything you have posted is wrong.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 08:28 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: one4all

Except he is wrong, I work in healthcare, that is EXACTLY what our Doctors say. They absolutely teach prevention is the best solution.

Now I do believe there are valid cases where there are problems. I think cancer is one of those areas.


Doctors say what they are told to say and what their professional Governing body tells them or they are as unemployed as the Assistants who work with them from Receptionists to Aides to Nurses......yes a lot of paycheques now depend on lies and deceptions being projected.Your doctors aren't stupid...they know the game...and have been in it for the money in large since they decided to take medicine...spare me the humanitarian speil that everyone dreamed of just helping people....because we are trying to help people here and look what is happening.


Of course doctors preach prevention.....however as we all know they learn from books and experiences from other doctors....not from god...and yes you can in fact learn what they learned and you can even acess the same textbooks they use in school I might add that it is good to learn their diagnostic procedures...they are simple and effective and help you not waste time when looking to help yourself.Bottom line is that if you stand beside me with your doctor and I am standing at my computer and we both enter our complaints in exactly the same verbiage you into your doctor and I into Google I am willing to bet I am MORE ACCURATE IN A MUCH QUICKER MANNER than your doctor is.Full stop the world has changed forever and everyone has to keep u right.


The Doctors are LIED TO IN SCHOOL...they are intentionally UNDERPREPARED and MANY OF THEM KNOW IT BUT CANNOT CHANGE THINGS......lets not pretend all doctors disagree with the ways this topic is being discussed here because I know doctors who will help you OFF THE RECORD by legitimising some facts for you...they WILL NOT go on the record though which is fine with me...its not their job to police the world IT IS OUR JOB to do it for them.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 08:45 AM
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a reply to: one4all

Vaccinations are touted as prevention, and nothing could be further from the truth.

We live in a culture of lying.

It's up to we the people to use the internet responsibly to search for the truth, connect the dots trusting our own intelligence and intuition, and post on forums. That's what I hear you saying; I agree with it.

All readers around the world need to remember that people who do not make their living in any way associated with the topic of a thread are in the best position to think objectively and admit dark truths.

It is human nature to protect one's livelihood, psychologically, in order to cope.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: one4all

The person said Doctors do NOT teach prevention because it would lose them money. It's wrong. They do. No doctor will tell you the germ theory is wrong. It's ridiculous to even contemplate it it's such a proven settled science.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 09:20 AM
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a reply to: LiberateEarth

I do not make my living in any way associated with germ theory. I have no medical degree whatsoever and do not rely on the healthcare industry in the slightest. I happen to work in a psychiatric hospital, but that is by choice and I could easily switch jobs at any time.

So another swing and a miss.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 09:31 AM
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I've done gene splicing myself with a repurposed virus as my injection vector.

Just because you don't have firsthand contact with direct evidence for the efficacy of a particular theory doesn't mean it's wrong. Have you been reading refutations on the internet, or have you been doing your own experiments?

You should get some practical exposure, and see what you find. Go run experiments for yourself. See what your data shows you.

This is how science works. I'm not trying to say who is right or who is wrong. I am telling you, stop reading, start doing. Go and experiment. In the words of Captain Planet, "The power is yours!"



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: LiberateEarth
Plant and animal tissues become unhealthy because of poor nutrition and exposure to toxins.


Nope, you can be the healthiest person but if a harmful pathogen manages to duplicate inside your body, you can end up seriously ill or even dead.

If the 'Goodbye germ theory' is true, then I would like to employ you to go to Africa to help against the next Ebola outbreak, without any protective equipment of course, as you don't believe bacteria and viruses can cause illness.



Educate yourself about the work of Pierre Bechamp.


Oh I know about Bechamp, he said that bacteria can change into yeast, then change into a fungus and then mold. I don't blame Bechamp for his ignorance as he didn't have the labs we have today, but for a person in the year 2018 to believe such idiocy is unbelievable.

Bacteria are prokaryotes and yeast are eukaryotes. They are fundamentally different. They cannot morph into each other.









originally posted by: LiberateEarth
The fact is, vaccinations are given credit where credit is not deserved.

The accurate timeline of history is that improvements in sanitation, living conditions, and nutrition is where credit is due.


How do you explain India,then? Extremely poor sanitation, 50% of the population still defecate in rivers they use to wash and where they get their drinking water from. And yet Polio has been eradicated.




posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: Archivalist

Exactly. I do not need to take anyone's word for it, I have witnessed it first hand.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 12:48 PM
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An excellent article by Rosanne Lindsay, N.D., M.A., author of The Nature of Healing: Heal the Body, Heal the Planet:


Say goodbye to the germ theory

December 21, 2014

Once upon a time people were afraid of germs. They blamed the germ as a cause of contagious disease because they didn’t have any other ideas. They didn’t question why germs affected only some people, and not others. They didn’t analyze why some people got well, and not others. So they chose to kill the lot of them.

Few questioned the authorities who demonized the germ, and developed various strategies to eliminate them– pasteurization, sterilization, irradiation, chemicals, pesticides, antibiotics, heavy metal preservatives (mercury), and vaccines. Those who controlled the science believed that sterilizing the body and the soil was the answer that would save humanity. And the people believed them. They never thought to ask the germs.

Welcome to 2014 where America, the nation that prescribes the most antibiotics and touts the highest vaccinated populations in the world also has the highest infant mortality rates, the second-highest rate of death by coronary artery disease, the second-highest rate of death by lung disease, and the highest rate of women dying due to complications of pregnancy and childbirth. Here is where 45% of the population has at least one chronic disease and one in thirty-two kids suffer from neurological and gastrointestinal degeneration known as autism.

Where did we go wrong?

Back in the day when Louis Pasteur proposed the Germ Theory and applied it to wine making to kill off the germs to create a sterilized product, no one questioned what it might do to the body. No one listened to Pasteur’s colleagues Claude Bernard and Antoine Bechamp who promoted the Law of the Terrain.

These men viewed the body as a biological ecosystem in which nutritional status and toxicity were key factors. They considered the strength of the immune system – the terrain – to be key in determining health. They believed germs to be the scavengers of disease that manifest when the body’s natural metabolic processes are thrown off. They knew our nature IS nature and as a part of nature we are self-sustaining, self-regulation, self-healing, and self-protecting. We come with natural defenses by birthright.

In his book The Third Element of the Blood, Bechamp identified a certain group of microbes that take on different forms, based on the conditions of their environment. Today we call these environmental conditions “epigenetic factors.” Bad bacteria, viruses, and fungi, he argued, are merely the forms assumed by the bugs when the terrain favors disease. These bugs give off toxic byproducts, which further weaken the terrain. According to Bechamp and Bernard, germs were merely symptoms, which lead to more symptoms to become a disease. . . .

www.natureofhealing.org...



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: LiberateEarth

We're more sanitary and have higher standards of living than any other time in history. So why are the rate of these diseases that we have vaccines for increasing as the number of people not vaccinating their children also increases?



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 02:58 PM
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originally posted by: LiberateEarth
An excellent article by Rosanne Lindsay, N.D., M.A., author of The Nature of Healing: Heal the Body, Heal the Planet . . .


Rosanne Lindsay has a YouTube channel:


Nature of Healing
Published on Jul 19, 2017


Autoimmune disorders and neurological diseases are skyrocketing.

What is the cause?

There is no reversal of disease without addressing cause. Ignorance in the Age of Information is no excuse.

Don't let those who are ignorant dominate you. Be informed!




posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 04:00 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: LiberateEarth

We're more sanitary and have higher standards of living than any other time in history. So why are the rate of these diseases that we have vaccines for increasing as the number of people not vaccinating their children also increases?


He/she won't reply. I asked him similar questions and nothing.... he likes to reply to himself though.





originally posted by: LiberateEarth
An excellent article by Rosanne Lindsay, N.D., M.A., author of The Nature of Healing: Heal the Body, Heal the Planet:

Say goodbye to the germ theory


Is this the same Rosanne Lindsay who is enriching her pocket selling licences to practice medicine? The owner of Turtle Island? The same Rosanne Lindsay that belongs to the cult called The sacred church of the East?

Turtle Island sign up costs.

And she is fighting for holistic healers to practice without licence.... it's like going back to the middle ages.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: Agartha

originally posted by: LiberateEarth
Plant and animal tissues become unhealthy because of poor nutrition and exposure to toxins.


Nope, you can be the healthiest person but if a harmful pathogen manages to duplicate inside your body, you can end up seriously ill or even dead.

If the 'Goodbye germ theory' is true, then I would like to employ you to go to Africa to help against the next Ebola outbreak, without any protective equipment of course, as you don't believe bacteria and viruses can cause illness.



Educate yourself about the work of Pierre Bechamp.


Oh I know about Bechamp, he said that bacteria can change into yeast, then change into a fungus and then mold. I don't blame Bechamp for his ignorance as he didn't have the labs we have today, but for a person in the year 2018 to believe such idiocy is unbelievable.

Bacteria are prokaryotes and yeast are eukaryotes. They are fundamentally different. They cannot morph into each other.









originally posted by: LiberateEarth
The fact is, vaccinations are given credit where credit is not deserved.

The accurate timeline of history is that improvements in sanitation, living conditions, and nutrition is where credit is due.


How do you explain India,then? Extremely poor sanitation, 50% of the population still defecate in rivers they use to wash and where they get their drinking water from. And yet Polio has been eradicated.






A pleomorphic bacteria can express itself as a fungus...what are you talking about.....Bechamp identified this in a generic way and it was proven out by Royal Rife and others.Hulda Clark taught us where the bacteria comes from,parasites.No parasites means no bacteria means no cancer EVER IN YOUR LIFE.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 03:53 AM
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originally posted by: one4all
A pleomorphic bacteria can express itself as a fungus...what are you talking about.....


As I've said above: bacteria is prokaryotes and fungi is eukaryotes. Please explain in detail how a cell with no nucleus or membrane bound organelles can transform itself so much and become eukaryotes. Explain this to me in detail before you start adding oranisms into this equation, such as parasites.



Bechamp identified this in a generic way and it was proven out by Royal Rife and others. Hulda Clark taught us where the bacteria comes from,parasites.


Hulda Clark lured thousands of victims to believe she could cure cancer because she convinced them all cancer were the same and that it was caused by a parasite in the intestine. She was a snake oil salesman, a scam artist who ironically died of cancer..... care to explain that?



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 04:08 AM
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originally posted by: LiberateEarth
a reply to: Xcalibur254

If "pseudoscience" applies to anything, it's mainstream science.

I'm certain there are MDs who question the germ theory, but they do so at their peril. There is a medical mafia that deals with those who don't go along to get along.

See "90 Mysterious Deaths of Holistic Doctors."


Im betting if they went to real doctor's they would still be alive. Ignoring 100 years of medical advances will tend to have you die at a higher rate then the rest of the population.

Perhaps the smart move would have been to show people how modern medicine is wrong. We know germs exist and the reactions out bodies have when introduced to them. So the only thing left is proving that our bodies just make them instead of being caught because of contacts with other sources.

Problem is we know diseases are spread by contact and if it was just a matter of not eating right there wouldn't be break outs.



posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 05:52 AM
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originally posted by: LiberateEarth
The fact is, vaccinations are given credit where credit is not deserved.

The truth about vaccinations fits very logically into the big picture.

Once the modus operandi of false-flag terror and the self-serving agenda of the "elite" is understood, those members of the general public who face the obvious in spite of the discomfort it generates, understand.

Once people understand, they know what to do.



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