Thanking the founding fathers for helping us create a socialist police state

I would like to celebrate the incredible vision of our founding fathers by creating a socialist police state where we place a massive tax burden on those who produce so we can give to those who don't. This was the true vision of freedom envisioned by the like of Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and George Washington.

A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities.

Thomas Jefferson

It's clear from the author of the Deceleration of Independence that the intention of the government was to create a massive police state that burdened it's citizens with massive taxes so that politicians and government employees can retire in lives of luxury with HUGE pensions for the rest of their lives like lords and kings.

“Government is instituted to protect property of every sort; as well that which lies in the various rights of individuals, as that which the term particularly expresses. This being the end of government, that alone is a just government which impartially secures to every man whatever is his own.” – James Madison, Essay on Property, 1792

It's clear from our 4th president and one of the key players in the ratification of the constitution that the government can tax your property forever and force you to pay as much as they want or confiscate your property at will. It's also obvious from this quote that he wanted the government to STEAL 30-40% of what you produce so he can hand it over to someone else who didn't earn it, obviously.

“To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.” — Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816

Once again Thomas Jefferson shines a light on the true path of freedom, government force to steal from you and give to others.

“If ever again our nation stumbles upon unfunded paper, it shall surely be like death to our body politic. This country will crash.” – George Washington

And I will leave you with this one last quote from our first president George Washington about how we should hand over our countries economy to central bankers and allow them to create massive poverty through debt and fiat currency.

Thank you founding fathers for laying the ground work for us to establish a tyrannical socialist police state.

Thanks Obama! Wait,, he was a founding father right?

a reply to: caterpillage

He was actually the Messiah, sorry you blinked and missed it.

Our founding fathers would become physically ill, if they saw how perverse our Republic has become. They warned us to stay out of the central banking system, and to steer clear of foreign entanglements.

We blew it during the 20th century.

Our Republic has been replaced with a true cult of personality. The Clintons are a prime example of this. They have left a trail of criminal behavior spanning decades... sexual assaults, fraud, treason, influence peddling and a body count that rivals many mafia families.

Crab fishermen in Alaska have a better survival rate, than Clinton associates do.

The MSM has become blinded by political influence, and complicit in burying their crimes.

The true reason for "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is quite plain to see...

They hate him, because they fear that their own corruption may come back to bite them in the arse. The politicians and media personalities that protest the loudest, probably have the most to lose....

The founding fathers had nothing to do with the mess we see now. Professional politicians got us here. Lawyers got us here. The media and academia push the narrative, and anything counter to that message is quickly silenced.

Average, everyday working Americans voted for President Trump because he is outside of the establishment.

The police state... a liberal fixture that is rapidly seeing its days numbered.

That must really scare the hell out of them...

a reply to: madmac5150

Totally agree.

They would not put up with the # we put up with today like property taxes. Obviously they wouldn't have payed those.

Total joke. Inheritance tax. Yeah right. Income tax? You better bring a military with you bud.

originally posted by: toysforadults
I would like to celebrate the incredible vision of our founding fathers by creating a socialist police state where we place a massive tax burden on those who produce so we can give to those who don't. This was the true vision of freedom envisioned by the like of Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and George Washington.

A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities.

Thomas Jefferson

It's clear from the author of the Deceleration of Independence that the intention of the government was to create a massive police state that burdened it's citizens with massive taxes so that politicians and government employees can retire in lives of luxury with HUGE pensions for the rest of their lives like lords and kings.

“Government is instituted to protect property of every sort; as well that which lies in the various rights of individuals, as that which the term particularly expresses. This being the end of government, that alone is a just government which impartially secures to every man whatever is his own.” – James Madison, Essay on Property, 1792

It's clear from our 4th president and one of the key players in the ratification of the constitution that the government can tax your property forever and force you to pay as much as they want or confiscate your property at will. It's also obvious from this quote that he wanted the government to STEAL 30-40% of what you produce so he can hand it over to someone else who didn't earn it, obviously.

“To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.” — Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816

Once again Thomas Jefferson shines a light on the true path of freedom, government force to steal from you and give to others.

“If ever again our nation stumbles upon unfunded paper, it shall surely be like death to our body politic. This country will crash.” – George Washington

And I will leave you with this one last quote from our first president George Washington about how we should hand over our countries economy to central bankers and allow them to create massive poverty through debt and fiat currency.

Thank you founding fathers for laying the ground work for us to establish a tyrannical socialist police state.

Only read half but wow, ok.... Who taught you this?
MIND

You suck at 4th of July posts.

originally posted by: c2oden
You suck at 4th of July posts.

Agreed

originally posted by: c2oden
You suck at 4th of July posts.

sorry but we have nothing to celebrate anymore we have turned our country into the exact thing they were trying to prevent

Thomas Jefferson also thought that black people were only 3/5 of a person. So, y'know, maybe it's a good idea to update ideas over time, instead of listening to a guy who has been dead for 200 years?

Or maybe, the founding fathers gave us the tools to evolve our country as time progresses? And that any current failings in the government are actually your fault (and mine)? Maybe? Possibly?

Nah... couldn't be.

originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: c2oden
You suck at 4th of July posts.

sorry but we have nothing to celebrate anymore we have turned our country into the exact thing they were trying to prevent

No.
This is not done.

a reply to: MrSensible

It's pretty obvious you don't know what you're talking about here. An education may be in order.

www.monticello.org...

start here, then read the federalist vs anti federalist.. UGH so sick of hearing about this bull#

originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: c2oden
You suck at 4th of July posts.

sorry but we have nothing to celebrate anymore we have turned our country into the exact thing they were trying to prevent

True. The revolutionary war was fought to end this kind of thing, but now it seems like it was in vain and now have became the same thing we fought against.
That's what the 2nd was designed for.

a reply to: JHumm

It's even worse now than it was under the King, BY FAR

a reply to: toysforadults

from YOUR source:

he also profited directly from the institution of slavery and wrote that he suspected black people to be inferior to white people in his Notes on the State of Virginia.

Way to put me in my place, while simultaneously missing the point of my post.

a reply to: MrSensible

check this out, I really don't give a f***

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: MrSensible

check this out, I really don't give a f***

I win then.

a reply to: toysforadults

Whoa man you alright dude?

originally posted by: MrSensible
Thomas Jefferson also thought that black people were only 3/5 of a person. So, y'know, maybe it's a good idea to update ideas over time, instead of listening to a guy who has been dead for 200 years?

Or maybe, the founding fathers gave us the tools to evolve our country as time progresses? And that any current failings in the government are actually your fault (and mine)? Maybe? Possibly?

Nah... couldn't be.

Scots-Irish slaves were worth far less to the early colonials. That is my heritage. I think we have all paid enough, for the sins of our fathers.

The founders left us the United States Constitution... and, every time the Government moves further away from that founding document, Americans suffer.

The attachment of labels is the source of division. Maybe, just maybe... if we start referring to all U.S. Citizens as "Americans" without any hyphenated suffix... we could start solving our problems.

a reply to: toysforadults

Oh, bull**snip**.

Step away from your sound bites and get out and see the world around you.

For all the bad, there's much good, as well. But if you choose to dwell in the dark, that's up to you. But stop pretending that there's nought that's good.

Police state, my hairy white ass. Go to an actual police state, and see what one really is. This ain't it.