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originally posted by: one4all
Judging by the size of the kids and the size of the bottles being used by the divers it looks like they could likely slap together a simple POD that is kid-sized and streamlined that has a basic oxygen valve with a quick-release for fast easy bottle exchanges on it and an egress method for co2 and then the kids can just lay down and be buttoned up into shells and towed along exactly like the oxygen bottles they are transporting.....these are skinny kids and these PODS can be quite small.....shouldn't take more than 24 hours to design build test then reproduce by 3-d printers..this POD idea.2 divers per kid one in front one in back POD in the middle.Done deal.This eliminates ALL OF THE PROBLEMS surrounding this resuce operation no swimming lessons or diving lessons needed...no paniced kids ripping off masks....no risk of them getting caught up during transport....and they can even have an I-pod for soothing music during their trips out.
If you count how many oxygen bottles that have been taken into the resuce area and then transitted back out you can see how many times over each kid would have already been saved if they had just gotten to work on day one like this....soooooo.....someone tell Elon Musk to read this dam post so we can get this show on the road....his engineers now have their marching orders......remember Elon KISS keep it simple stupid...BASIC WORKABLE and NOW.
This KISS solution is my way of apologising to the OP for sliding a bit off-track earlier....hope someone can simply get this to Elon....lol...so we can see things be done NOW.
Jeepers even taking a waterproof cartop luggage carrier and drilling holes in it and installing valves is better than nothing.I don't think pressure is to big of an issue they aren't 2000 Leagues under the sea.Just a locking airtight and watertight seal with an o2-in source and a co2 out source.
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Alien Abduct
Well, not really even close to one the "most" difficult, but it's difficult to be sure.
The most difficult is down in South America. Way deeper and way longer.
Still, it's a very dangerous dive and caving experience.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Alien Abduct
It’s a THREE MILE cave dive Through murky waters and over borders several stories high!
A three mile dive is not required. Apparently there are some sections which require diving but others do not.
originally posted by: solids0be
Two doctors volunteer to STAY with children trapped in Thai cave for FOUR MONTHS if floodwaters cut them off and make rescue attempts impossible...A football coach and 12 'rake thin' young players remain trapped in the Thamg Luang cave network in the country's north as experts desperately try to come up with a plan to rescue them.
There are fears fresh rainfall over the next few days could add to flooding in the caves - meaning the boys, who cannot swim, may have to wait until the end of monsoon season in October before they can be brought to safety.
If that does happen, two of Thailand's Navy doctors have already volunteered to stay in the underground chamber for as long as it takes in what is being described as a 'huge sacrifice'.
PROOF OF HOLLOW EARTH FOUND: "Two doctors volunteer to STAY with children trapped in Thai cave for FOUR MONTHS"
Ever since this story broke I have been very suspicious of the situation that led to the group being swept into this cave system in Thailand. Supposedly they were off exploring, and heavy rains flushed into the cave system forcing the group deeper into its depths to seek refuge from the rising water levels. The group was missing and presumed dead for over 10 days before they were "Miraculously found" by rescue workers.
The first part of this story is plausible, having spent 2 years in Thailand doing research on local flora and fauna supporting efforts to find cures for communicable disease while working for the Keck School of Medicine of USC who was funding the team of four I was assigned to, we experienced many months during the rainy season were the seasonal floods flooded terrestrial cave systems and hampered some of our projected research goals. As a 8 year graduate with a Doctorate in botany it was my job to analyze some of the unique plant life of the area and actually spent time in a nearby cave systems researching the genus Amanita and potential for strains of a unique Amatoxin that could revolutionize research supporting the cure for Diabetes and Heptic cancer and even got a chance to explore Tham Thod in Mae Hong Son Province where archeologists have been analyzing prehistoric Taiwanese cave peoples, and Hang Son Doong one of the largest caves in Thailand.
The part of the story that has been brushed over by the media is the exceptionally good state of health of the group, its hard to believe the conditions of the group once they were found by S&R teams. I believe that there is much more to the story than what is being reported. Thailand is steeped in cave legends, many having to do with lost princesses, deep underground Kingdoms and subterranean creatures such as the The Phaya Naga.
While speaking to some of the local elders in some of the areas about these legends they spoke of family members exploring deep into the caves, some travelling over 3 miles deep and returning with epic tales of bright lights deep below and large Iron doors blocking off sections of the subterranean labyrinths. Other story's stated that after a large raining season one of the caves had a section collapse revealing what looked like a clean cut staircase and railing cut out of the stone. When one of the elders explored it he stated that it took him and entire day to descend, and returned only because he did not bring enough food, water and batteries to continue. He stated all along the walls were cave drawings and etchings that were definitely not Thai and looked more like Egyptian hieroglyphs. By the time he had gotten supplies ready to descend back down to explorer, there was a cave in that blocked the entrance and soon after the rain returned washing mud and stone sealing it over exceptionally worse. He stated he wanted to try to excavate but couldn't get support to dig it out and was accused of making the whole thing up. I took his stories very lightly and figured he was just sewing tales so I would continue buying him Coca-Colas and power bars from the market I'd stop in every morning on the way to the research site.
Any ways after this story broke and I saw that the government conveniently cant find a way to rescue the group in time makes me think that the group may have stubbled upon the entrance to a lost entrance and was in as good condition as they were due to with help from a Hollow Earth peoples deep beneath the Thai cave system. Once the rescuers had found and spoke to them the narrative of the news changed from they should be rescued soon, to it will take 4 Months and that "Doctors" are staying behind to make sure that they are ok. I believe the government is covering up a major discovery and that these are not merely Doctors, but researchers being escorted by an elite special operations unit to debrief the group to keep their mouths shut, and to explore the entrance for the next 4 months undisturbed by outside entities and news outlets.
Another reason I believe there is more to the story is that two colleagues that I made while working on a project in China, Tsang Cheng-hwa and Li Kuang-ti reached out to me stating that they were contacted earlier in the week about being requested to explore a cave site in Thailand but hadn't gotten a lot of details, they had asked if I wanted them to collect any samples for my research. I didn't even associate their message with what was going on with the cave rescue until this morning while I was watching the news report the story again. The importance of their association is that they are experts in Thai archeology reaching back as far as 5000BC and have explored thousands of sites and even received an international award for an archeological project for efforts they made in Thailand furthering the research of the origins of ancient peoples of that region.
Anyways I wanted to get this out for discussion, there are too many coincidences and the official story is just not adding up. If anyone is currently in the vicinity please reply or PM me, I want to get as much info as I can about what's really going on. I've reached out to my two colleagues again but haven't gotten answer back...they may already be at the site or even in the cave as we speak...more to come as soon as I hear anything.edit on 3-7-2018 by DrumsRfun because:
The use of ALL CAPS
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Johugg
They had over thirty (30) teams of elite military and exploration experts combing every square inch of the area above where the boys were trapped looking for alternate entrances into the cave system. The searches didn't find any nearby viable entrances out of the cave from beyond where the boys are stranded.
originally posted by: randyvs
They should try getting the coach out
first. Take a little off the learning curve.
Who cares if his dumb ass sinks. Turn
him over to the parents. Let him explain it