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posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: JackHill





Abductions can be tracked down even before WWII. So no, blaming "human organizations" like the origin of the phenomena simply doesn't match evidence.


Yeah because humans didn't exist before WW2


Please excuse my ignorance.

Where did I blame any human organization for anything?

Seeing things that are not there is not a good sing for one mental health





Anyway, if alien abductions not abductions can be traced to b4 WW2 you should help another member with a thread that is specifically about this.

As far as I know what can be traced is circumstantial and based on interpretation.




In either case, you're simply wrong.



OK so humans don't abduct other humans and humans didn't exist before WW2.





posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 12:58 PM
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Guys, I'm the one who thought Rick30 may have been a friend of the OP as they posted almost together and left almost together. That turned out not true, as Rick explained... there is no reason to get on his case.

He has helped out more so far then the OP has. He is the one that made the only image, however bad it is, available to us.

And the OP hasn't come back yet. So while this may be a hoax, it's not Rick's fault, get off his case.



posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 01:00 PM
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originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: JackHill





Abductions can be tracked down even before WWII. So no, blaming "human organizations" like the origin of the phenomena simply doesn't match evidence.


Yeah because humans didn't exist before WW2


Please excuse my ignorance.

Where did I blame any human organization for anything?

Seeing things that are not there is not a good sing for one mental health





Anyway, if alien abductions not abductions can be traced to b4 WW2 you should help another member with a thread that is specifically about this.

As far as I know what can be traced is circumstantial and based on interpretation.




In either case, you're simply wrong.



OK so humans don't abduct other humans and humans didn't exist before WW2.



Abductees are not "seeing things", they're being physically removed from their normal environments, then returned with memories suppressed. Relatives cannot find the abductee, sometimes multiple persons are taken at the same time and share same recollections, there are clear physical elements, symmetrical body marks, even implants have been recovered. Abductees children start to show abduction symptoms aswell.

Evidence is all over. These beings are very efficient on what they do. A couple of persons discussing on forums or disclosing their experiences on TV won't represent a menace to their agenda.

I cannot say it strong enough: there's a silent infiltration going on. That's the final purpose of the program.



posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 03:31 PM
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originally posted by: JackHill

Abductees are not "seeing things", they're being physically removed from their normal environments, then returned with memories suppressed. Relatives cannot find the abductee, sometimes multiple persons are taken at the same time and share same recollections, there are clear physical elements, symmetrical body marks, even implants have been recovered. Abductees children start to show abduction symptoms aswell.


You speak with such conviction and knowledge that we are being "infiltrated" by aliens abducting millions of people. Any skeptic or logical person would ask for evidence. Obviously "even implants have been recovered" is part of why you believe and would be physical evidence. Please post your example of single alien implant case that shows evidence of alien beings are here. It will give us all an idea of how seriously we can take this all-knowing knowledge.



posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: Ectoplasm8

originally posted by: JackHill

Abductees are not "seeing things", they're being physically removed from their normal environments, then returned with memories suppressed. Relatives cannot find the abductee, sometimes multiple persons are taken at the same time and share same recollections, there are clear physical elements, symmetrical body marks, even implants have been recovered. Abductees children start to show abduction symptoms aswell.


You speak with such conviction and knowledge that we are being "infiltrated" by aliens abducting millions of people. Any skeptic or logical person would ask for evidence. Obviously "even implants have been recovered" is part of why you believe and would be physical evidence. Please post your example of single alien implant case that shows evidence of alien beings are here. It will give us all an idea of how seriously we can take this all-knowing knowledge.


Implants have been recovered from abductees, check the work of people like Derrel Sims on the subject.

Abductees have been describing on their experiences about "hybrid beings". With time, these hybrids were "perfected" to look exactly like a regular human being, except they retain the neurological capabilities. Abductees are forced to teach hybrids about our daily lives, so they can learn and once fully prepared, they "move" here and stay.

The whole point of the abduction program was precisely this.



posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: anotherside

I'm sorry, but can't you see that what you have shown as your evidence can be interpreted by a logical person as a skin rash and a blurry blowup of an X-ray? When people ask for evidence they need to be shown something that the average person would agree is actually legitimate.

Time and time again, proof of ET abductions is sorely lacking. Hell, there is not even any proof of ET! Something is happening, I think most would agree to that. Many here would like to believe you, but you need to show something better than you have. Until then, it is an interesting story with no proof to back it up.



posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: JackHill
Implants have been recovered from abductees, check the work of people like Derrel Sims on the subject.

That's not what I asked. I asked you to point to a single alien implant case for you shows definite alien involvement. This gives us a gauge of how seriously we can take your authoritative tone that "millions" people are being abducted and there's an alien agenda. Otherwise you have no more knowledge than anyone else and shouldn't go around spouting as if you know.


Abductees have been describing on their experiences about "hybrid beings". With time, these hybrids were "perfected" to look exactly like a regular human being, except they retain the neurological capabilities. Abductees are forced to teach hybrids about our daily lives, so they can learn and once fully prepared, they "move" here and stay.

The whole point of the abduction program was precisely this.

That's all fantasy and nonsense without evidence.



posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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originally posted by: Ectoplasm8

originally posted by: JackHill
Implants have been recovered from abductees, check the work of people like Derrel Sims on the subject.

That's not what I asked. I asked you to point to a single alien implant case for you shows definite alien involvement. This gives us a gauge of how seriously we can take your authoritative tone that "millions" people are being abducted and there's an alien agenda. Otherwise you have no more knowledge than anyone else and shouldn't go around spouting as if you know.


Abductees have been describing on their experiences about "hybrid beings". With time, these hybrids were "perfected" to look exactly like a regular human being, except they retain the neurological capabilities. Abductees are forced to teach hybrids about our daily lives, so they can learn and once fully prepared, they "move" here and stay.

The whole point of the abduction program was precisely this.

That's all fantasy and nonsense without evidence.


Again, read Derrel Sims and similar researchers on the subject and make your own mind around it. Here is a pretty descriptive article on the subject:

www.mufon.com...

Regarding the later part, I don't give a flying # honestly about your opinion, because obviously you're not informed on the subject, and I mean, at all. Evidence is all over the place, I mean, FFS, you literally even have people here on this very forum coming from time to time speaking about the very same incidents, over, and over, and over again.

Do you really think these beings are idiots? They won't let you interfere with their agenda, they have invested a LOT of time and resources to perform these stealth operations, they won't just give you alien tissue and cause mass reaction when results reach the press, it would be completely counterproductive to them.

And YES, everything points out to a silent infiltration. The very same abductees are faced with the human looking hybrids they helped to prepare since childhood and later experiences literally involves abductees being carried to the apartments and houses where these beings are already living.



posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 06:22 PM
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I read your link, one thing that really stands out to me, and I quote: " Derrel Sims has stated that a scientific peer review of all tests must be done before more specifics can be released. This is the standard course of action taken in any scientific endeavor."

The work was done in 1996, can you please post a link to the peer reviews? I really don't think there are any. So what I read, is that there is no proof that these objects were alien implants. Unless of course you want to take the word of the people they were taken from. That's a "he said she said " type thing, and you don't know if it's true or not.

I for one don't know if these are real experiences, calls for attention, hallucinations or what. As far as objects getting under your skin and staying there for years, it happens. Not everything gets infected. A case in point, is the fact that I had a small piece of shrapnel come out by my hip 10 years after the incident. The only reason I knew it was there was that I bumped it just right, and it broke the skin. Still absolutely no evidence, just conjecture.

And remember, just because people say something over and over doesn't make it true.
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posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 08:37 PM
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Again, read Derrel Sims and similar researchers on the subject and make your own mind around it. Here is a pretty descriptive article on the subject:


And again you can't come up with a single case that shows absolute evidence that aliens are here? You want a broad sweep of the hand - "oh just go look at all of these cases." You know why that's done by hardcore believers? Because there isn't a single case ever that has given us an ounce of physical evidence. You do understand that all it takes is a small piece of evidence from one incident, right? But because this does not exist with millions of abductions, believers have no other choice but to point to all claims as a whole as their evidence. Weak.


...because obviously you're not informed on the subject, and I mean, at all. Evidence is all over the place

Yes yes the infamous go-to argument to skeptics "you just don't know the evidence". I'd place a good bet on the skeptical knowing far more about cases than those that support it. We will look deeper into all sides of a claim and not just the sensationalized garbage sold to the public.


I mean, FFS, you literally even have people here on this very forum coming from time to time speaking about the very same incidents, over, and over, and over again.

Sorry, I'm not naive enough to believe everything that strangers claim on the internet is the truth. Especially when it's an alien being visiting Earth.


Regarding the later part, I don't give a flying # honestly about your opinion

This isn't about my opinion, it's about you speaking in absolutes that there's an "alien agenda" going on. You've done this lately in multiple threads and still have provided zero in the way of evidence. Again I ask for evidence or accountability to claims on the forum and end up with nothing. Oh well.



posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 09:04 PM
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"Again I ask for evidence or accountability to claims on the forum and end up with nothing. Oh well."



I'm with you here brother, keep hoping but nothing shows. I really don't understand how fanatical some can be without anything solid to lean on.



posted on Jul, 4 2018 @ 09:17 PM
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originally posted by: Topcraft
a reply to: anotherside

I'm sorry, but can't you see that what you have shown as your evidence can be interpreted by a logical person as a skin rash and a blurry blowup of an X-ray? When people ask for evidence they need to be shown something that the average person would agree is actually legitimate.

Time and time again, proof of ET abductions is sorely lacking. Hell, there is not even any proof of ET! Something is happening, I think most would agree to that. Many here would like to believe you, but you need to show something better than you have. Until then, it is an interesting story with no proof to back it up.

Believe what you will i dont care.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 12:00 AM
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If you don't believe what people are saying why even bother writing on this thread, move on and pick something you do every interesting thread about abductions or aliens gets shut down by the same people spouting the same nonsense about prove to me...

If what there saying is true and you get abducted middle of the night its pretty damn hard to prove is it not, it really spoils the thread cos people tell you about there abductions and there all pretty interesting stories and then before they can get into detail or be pressed on the subject someone turns them off from writing anymore about it on here

It really spoils what could be great threads fabricated or not



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 12:18 AM
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Well, you stated that you wanted rational conversation, I'm trying to have one. I came to ATS as an attempt to understand the subject we are talking about here. I know you believe what you say, but you really don't give a guy much to go on.

Either you do care about what other people think, or you are just here to find someone that will agree with whatever you say. that's no way to get to the bottom of this phenomena or you're experience. I'm here to learn, not attack you.

What you present as evidence falls far short of you're claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Please, if you have that present it. If you do that you will shut up every sceptic on this board, and we will all learn something. You stated in this thread that you heard voices. Sometimes people that do, also see things that are not really there. There are medical conditions that can cause that. How will anyone know if what you say actually happened or is an illusion, unless you can provide tangible proof.

If I have offended you, I apologize, but you're leaving yourself wide open. I'm out of here, I hope you figure out what's happening to you.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 12:22 AM
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"It really spoils what could be great threads fabricated or not"


Nuff said, I come here for fact, not fabrication.



posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 12:50 AM
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a reply to: Richard Corbin

As someone who works in the Maxillofacial surgical field, I feel as if I have a fairly educated opinion on your cone beam CT scan (your x-ray). Its pretty clear you've had your share of dental restorations, and that to me, gives a clue on what the object of high radio opacity is. I daresay its precious metal that has propagated from a site of a failed / removed root canal treatment OR that has come from another restoration. The propagation of bone fragments around the mandible / maxilla (jaw / upper jaw) is a common occurrence and the deposits are referred to as a "torus". These can happen anywhere in the mouth, but are most prominent in the mandible and palate (roof of your mouth). They're caused by the natural movement of teeth from chewing, that break loose tiny fragments of bone from around the roots of the teeth. These tiny fragments of bone then group together and displace themselves elsewhere. If a piece of precious metal was left over from a root treatment, or a broken piece of metal from another restoration has made it below the gum line in your mouth, this could easily become lodged in the location of interest in your cone beam scan due to that propagation.

The objects high radio opacity (the fact it shows up as pure white on the scan) suggests its a precious metal alloy, which are commonly used as dentistry. If it was aluminium or titanium for example, it would have a lower radio opacity (it would appear as see through on the cone beam)

It most likely has a earthly explanation, but alas, I'm only giving a educated guess.
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posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 08:50 AM
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Abductees are not "seeing things",


When I said seeing things it had nothing to do abductions but you seeing things written that weren't.




These beings are very efficient on what they do.



Yes they are.





I cannot say it strong enough: there's a silent infiltration going on. That's the final purpose of the program.


a silent infiltration is the final purpose of the abduction program done by unknowns with unknown purposes but you cant say it strong enough that this is the purpose.




posted on Jul, 5 2018 @ 08:56 AM
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If you don't believe what people are saying why even bother writing on this thread,



who are you directing this too?


What type of logic is that?

If you don't believe what people say why even bother living on earth?





move on and pick something you do every interesting thread about abductions or aliens gets shut down by the same people spouting the same nonsense about prove to me...



Posting in this forum and making claims will be met with skepticism and asking of evidence.

People can post in the gray area or in skunk works where its free for all and hounding posters for evidence in those forums is a no no.



posted on Jul, 9 2018 @ 08:37 AM
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originally posted by: anotherside


Heres my evidence.



so now its alien and not evil human tech?


I swear when a youtube video comes out and it has a good production claiming that Mandela effect people should check for implants you will say this is evidence that you have jumped realities.


Get a grip man.


evidence?

Yes its evidence that that an Xray picture can be posted in your posts, that is all its evidence for, its actually proven.

However its evidence for absolutely nothing else without further things to corroborate.



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