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The TRAP Is SET!---R.I.P. Democrat Party 2018

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posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 12:31 PM
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Two other law enforcement officials from two separate US agencies confirmed the arrest. All three sources said the United States and Mexico are now working out a deal to send Flores to Ohio, where he is part of a multi-party racketeering indictment filed February 15.


Mexico Arrests MS13 Leader Busting Up Latest Gang Trafficking Ring - Insight Crime, March 3, 2018


The Dec. 6 arrests of Rivera and four others thwarted what police say would have been the sixth murder of a Brentwood High School student by MS-13 in less than two years.

But the incident also shook the school for another reason.

All but one of those arrested attended Brentwood, according to Suffolk County police. Three were unaccompanied minors who had been caught at the border and then placed in the community by a federal refugee program.


MS-13 is ‘taking over the school,’ one teen warned before she was killed - WaPo, March 9, 2018


NEW YORK — Twenty-four were arrested Thursday under Operation Matador, the intelligence driven, unified effort to combat the proliferation of MS-13 and other transnational criminal gang activity in Long Island, the New York City metropolitan area and Hudson Valley. This brings the total arrested under this initiative to 475.


Joint Operation nets 24 transnational gang members, 475 total arrests under Operation Matador - US Customs and Immigration Enforcement, March 29, 2018


(CNSNews.com) - Ninety-nine confirmed MS-13 gang members arrested over the last eleven months as the result of a joint operation conducted by the federal Department of Homeland Security and local New York law enforcement agencies came across the border into the United States as “unaccompanied minors,” according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.


U.S. Arrests 99 MS-13 Gangsters Who Entered as ‘Unaccompanied Minors’ - CNS News, April 2, 2018

Related to the above:


Federal authorities have added seven names to the roster of the Long Island-based MS-13 street gang that they say is responsible for a total of 15 killings in Suffolk and Nassau counties, according to a new indictment unsealed Thursday.


In indictment, feds add new names to list of charged MS-13 members - Newsday, June 7, 2018


A MS-13 gang member with a warrant by Interpol was among 91 people, including some with violent criminal records, arrested over a five-day period in New Jersey by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the agency announced Monday.


MS-13 gang members among 91 arrests during 5-day sweep in New Jersey, ICE says Fox News, June 12, 2918


But, no worries... MS-13 is not a problem at all and we don't need no stinking borders or an agency to enforce immigration laws.
edit on 2-7-2018 by jadedANDcynical because: Changed WaPo article to archive.is link because original link was not working with ATS bbcode




posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 12:32 PM
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Isn't this about the 10th theory as to what those sealed indictments are for?



posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Whereismypassword

Are we talking about THAT thread or THIS one?


That thread that this topic was originally posted in



posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: Whereismypassword

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Whereismypassword

Are we talking about THAT thread or THIS one?


That thread that this topic was originally posted in


Exactly. This topic was originally posted in the "Q" thread, and somehow I'm a dick for bringing it up.



posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Uh oh. You've done it now.

More posting about "MS 13, Child Sex Trafficking, Drugs and Arms Smuggling"



posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: six67seven

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: IAMTAT

Can I reference this thread on Nov. 7th?




I will never underestimate the stupidity of the American public. (see Hillary 2016 campaign)

But the left is doing a wonderful job of shooting themselves in the foot. And knee. And other foot. And other knee.

They went full retard, then double-downed.


Bold text is my doing! Had to!!


That movie would have never been made in this day and age. Heck it would have been burned badly. Pretty impressed SJWs ,that tend to dig back into history for minor misdeeds and use them to hate on innocent people, haven't gone after the actors, producers, writers, for starring in and creating it.



posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Whereismypassword

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Whereismypassword

Are we talking about THAT thread or THIS one?


That thread that this topic was originally posted in


Exactly. This topic was originally posted in the "Q" thread, and somehow I'm a dick for bringing it up.


Ok, you brought it up. Now what? What's your point? Are you here to discuss OP's theory or are you only here to derail the thread because you seem to have some personal vendetta against Q?

You are getting so redundant and boring. Yawn..



posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT


Voting against Tax-Cuts for working Americans was suicide. The certificate of death will be issued during the mid-term elections this November.



posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 12:50 PM
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we can only hope



posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: IAMTAT


Voting against Tax-Cuts for working Americans was suicide. The certificate of death will be issued during the mid-term elections this November.


the need those tax cuts so that the corporate gravy train from government grants and subsidies can continue so that the large mega corps can continue to charge %1000 markup on all their products and make mega money



posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks


I’m hoping I can skip the awards ceremony.



For convenience purposes only, they will bring the ceremony to you...



posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 12:57 PM
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Why does everyone play these political games. Is life that boring otherwise?

Why is everyone in here in a huff to prove if this thread is, or is not, a "Q" thread". Does it matter either way?

If it is a secret. That the OP is a prolific poster in the Q thread, and that this theory is informed by knowledge gained in the Q thread and/or knowledge researched based on things learned in the Q thread and/or learned in the process of learning things related to the Q thread, and that many of the posters saying how good the theory is and how much sense the theory makes post in the Q thread, and that the person arguing with all their precious time and insisting that this thread is a "Q thread" for reasons of a trolling nature also for some reason prolifically posts/trolls in the Q thread. Then it is a badly kept secret.

Everyone who follows the threads on ATS, who has eyes and the ability to read, know what this thread is. So why pretend and obfuscate? Why huff and puff?

As to the theory. Wishful thinking. The Republican party was said to be on the verge of collapse, after Obama winning and the rise of the Tea Party. Instead the influx of angry people just eventually galvanized the Republican Party to go out and vote. Its not rocket science. The pressure valve has to be occasionally turned in the other direction after a single party has been in power close to a decade. Especially in a two party system.

It was a smart bet to say that Trump would win once he came out on top in the primary. Historically the other party wins after a president has been in power for two terms. Its drinking the Kool-aide when you then go on to say that now the other party will be destroyed forever.

Is the "Other" parties sole platform that they will run on, the dismantling of ICE? Is that factually true? Or is that spin and hyperbole? Sure the Democrats put forth a bill that would do that. But everyone knows it will not pass. See the pretending and obfuscating talked about above. Everyone knows it is a dumb bill that will not pass. Now I can see the Democrats running on Immigration reform in general. But the dismantling of ICE bill is just a stupid ploy in a long line of stupid ploys done by both parties.

As to the indictments. Yeah sure. I would love to see a massive operation to arrest gangbangers and sex traffickers. Lets all hope it happens. If Trump pulls it off kudos to him. But being able to convince enough Democrats that the tenuous links made in conspiracy safe places(I say that with love) between a bill put up to fail and the arrest of sex trafficker and gangbangers, does not seem like a safe bet.

No battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy.



posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: introvert




I'm a dick for bringing it up.


You said it but that's not the only reason.



posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986



Ok, you brought it up. Now what? What's your point? Are you here to discuss OP's theory or are you only here to derail the thread because you seem to have some personal vendetta against Q?


Yes, the theory is absurd. The democratic party or the republican party does not seem to be going anywhere any time soon, even if the theory in the OP is correct.



You are getting so redundant and boring. Yawn..


Ok. I'm not here to keep you entertained.



posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

So basically your hypothesis here is just "The Storm" fan fiction with a little extra helping of partisan politics?

1. Delaying prosecution of child sex traffickers for months and months to own the Democrats isn't something anyone truly concerned with child sex trafficking should be excited about.

The whole idea is disgusting on its face.

2. Stopping child sex trafficking is far from the principal function of ICE. In fact, the part of ICE that actually investigates this sort of international organized crime seems to want to be spun off from ICE.

19 top ICE investigators ask DHS officials to split up the agency


The investigators, who work for ICE Homeland Security Investigations, sent a letter to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen last week, asking her to split their division from the agency’s immigration enforcement arm, which has been the target of public backlash over the Trump administration’s immigration policies.

Their request, which was first reported by the Texas Observer, stems from a widespread misunderstanding about the work that ICE investigators do. Special agents with ICE’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) do not investigate immigration infractions or handle deportations —that falls to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO).

ICE investigators instead build criminal cases against international drug smuggling operations, sex trafficking rings, and cross-border gangs (like MS-13). That involves a lot of collaboration with local police, and ICE investigators say their association with the controversial immigration enforcement mission is making it hard for them to do their jobs.

They also complained that millions of dollars in funding for their investigations is repeatedly reallocated to enforcement and removal operations.


They must all be radical Democrats. In reality, the bulk of what ICE *actually* does is removal and the people at ICE who do investigate these sorts of crimes (ICE Homeland Security Investigations aka HSI) are finding their efforts hindered, not helped, by the Trump admin's civil immigration policies.

3. Are you certain that there "Tens of Thousands of sealed indictments" ? (is Trump now influencing people to weirdly capitalize things?)

This idea that there are tens of thousands of sealed indictments that are part of a massive operation al a "The Storm" seems to be based on a couple things:

a) That there are tens of thousands of sealed indictments based on looking at records in PACER. It's important to understand that everything that shows up sealed in PACER isn't an indictment. In fact, only a fraction of these are likely to be sealed indictments as opposed to sealed documents/motions/court actions.

and related:

b) The belief that this is something like a 35-fold increase in sealed indictments over an assumed "1000" per year "norm."

The origin of this number is a 2009 analysis done of federal court records from 2006. There were 1077 sealed *cases* found out of 66,458 criminal cases. Of those, 284 were sealed because of sealed indictments. (p.17)

There were an additional 15,177 sealed magistrate judge cases (p.21). It's important to note that the people building this list of "tens of thousands" of "sealed indictments" are not only including things that aren't likely to be sealed indictments at all, they're including all these magistrate judge case records when only 6% of those analyzed from 2006 were related to grand jury actions.

From what I can tell, there's both a haphazard conflation to arrive at "tens of thousands" of "sealed indictments" and a misunderstanding/misrepresentation of the 2009 analysis to conclude that there's a 35-fold increase in sealed indictments.

So let's put this all together:

Most of what ICE does has nothing to do with investigating human trafficking. The part that does appears to be complaining that the Trump admin is hurting their efforts in both policy and in siphoning off their funding for focus on removal operations.

If your hypothesis was likely to be correct, we'd expect to see the opposite: a massive influx of resources to facilitate the investigation, apprehension and prosecution of tens of thousands involved in human trafficking.

The "evidence" that any of this is happening appears to consist of an appallingly bad misunderstanding of PACER data that is being repeated most often by people's whose main qualification is enjoyment of Q's fan fiction.

Think about the logistics of an operation this massive. Where's the evidence of proportional increase in resources? And consider all the people who would have knowledge of it from investigators to prosecutors, judges and the jurors on the grand juries. The likelihood that details of this wouldn't be leaked are slim to none.

That's just some of the problems.

So yeah, I'll take the bet that this isn't going to happen. That's not to say that there won't be big busts of human trafficking/sex trafficking/child sex trafficking rings — something we can all agree is a great thing — but this idea that the Trump admin is sitting on tens of thousands of sealed indictments to spring on Democrats as an "October surprise" is extremely far-fetched.

And if you believed it was true, why, other than perverse partisan fanatical zeal, would you be excited that the admin was sitting on it, waiting for the election?



posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Vote full Republican ticket to support the Trump agenda.

#walkaway
#ditchthedems
#Trump2020
#Republicanticket2018
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posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 01:07 PM
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Most of what ICE does has nothing to do with investigating human trafficking. The part that does appears to be complaining that the Trump admin is hurting their efforts in both policy and in siphoning off their funding for focus on removal operations.


Look you lie and spread misinformation more than Trump and then speak authoritatively as if you work for ICE. Do you??

Oh let me guess, you are speculating based on information from a 3rd party source but actually have no clue on what you're talking about.

Are you Trump??

ICE.gov



U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) enforces a wide range of crimes related to border security, including investigations of human smuggling and human trafficking. In fact, ICE is one of the primary federal agencies responsible for combating human trafficking.


Who's buying all these people and what are they doing and where?

Where are these people?
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posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 01:07 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: underwerks

So why fight your own countrymen just to further empower the state that you claim to be fighting against?


And you've just won..........













I’m hoping I can skip the awards ceremony.



By the time you realize you're receiving the medal it'll almost be over.




posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: IAMTAT

So now how do we get rid of the Republican Party (the DNC's partner in war crimes)?



It may be a case of too little, too late but I have noticed that the previously silent majority is leaning libertarian and are starting to grasp that most members of senate and congress are "uni-party" globalists and/or other sociopathic self-serving swamp creatures.

If the left self-disintegrates, as appears is happening, maybe the recently "awakened" will start voting the slimeballs hiding behind both colors out of office.

I have a very hard time believing folk are noble and care about the children when our warmongering and love of regime change hurts WAY more children in much more awful ways than a temporary border separation. Virtue. Signaling. Suit up and direct that nobility to where it's most needed and you will stop being a stunning example of hypocrisy.

Both the DNC & GOP gotta go--or be seriously reformed--if we're to have a chance to right this out-of-control international criminal organization our system now represents.




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posted on Jul, 2 2018 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

One monster at a time.

Think of like a world of warcraft raid boss.

We have multiple tanks. One tank is on the DNC boss and the other tank is on the RNC boss.

Right now the offtank on the RNC boss is tanking him away from the crowd while we annihilate the DNC. Once the DNC is done we switch DPS to the RNC and burn that boss down.



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