Antifa throwing a bomb into a protest in Portland yesterday

originally posted by: Resilient1
a reply to: toysforadults

While I definitely think there needs to be public scrutiny of this behavior, I want to urge you not to fall into the trap of counter movements. They are manipulating us to act out. Once things escalate it will give justification to implement martial law. Together we stand, divided we fall.

I don't think you are correct - I think what is happening or beginning to happen is that normal people, tolerant for so long of the crazy, violent, childish behaviour of just a few well-funded radicals on the extreme left, have finally had enough and are meeting fire with fire. It's not a movement, just a natural reaction. I say good. Antifa needs to be stamped out the same as any terrorist organisation.

a reply to: UKTruth

I'm getting very intolerant of the left period, like I can't stand anything they say anymore

they lie
misinform
misconstrue
anti American
pro socialist

done with it sick of them

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: UKTruth

I'm getting very intolerant of the left period, like I can't stand anything they say anymore

they lie
misinform
misconstrue
anti American
pro socialist

done with it sick of them

I think they've finally pushed too far and patience has run out. I do not blame the entire left though as most people I know with liberal views are not far from centre and there is much common ground. No. this is a very vocal and very well funded minority, but they are losing and the Democrat party will suffer because they are associated. Even millennials are leaving the Democrats in droves. Enough is enough.

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: UKTruth

I'm getting very intolerant of the left period, like I can't stand anything they say anymore

they lie
misinform
misconstrue
anti American
pro socialist

done with it sick of them

This mirrors a lot of my sentiments toward the misinformers specifically. However UKTruth and others made several excellent observations/points

1) Together we stand, divided we fall

2) The vast majority of folks on the left are good-intentioned and have rationally sound ideas (even if we disagree on those specific issues). My complaint is solely with the folks who do all 5 of those things you listed above

a reply to: UKTruth

Short reply: Great choice in music. If these Antifa thugs are fighting a just cause, why do they cover their faces? Shouldn't they be proud of their cause?

a reply to: XAnarchistX

Having weapons is not attacking people. I carry a knife on me practically everywhere I go. Throwing explosives at people it's attacking them.

Jaden

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: UKTruth

I'm getting very intolerant of the left period, like I can't stand anything they say anymore

they lie
misinform
misconstrue
anti American
pro socialist

done with it sick of them

If you lived in this country, I would advocate for your healthcare too.

I'll still advocate for it.

That's not weakness.

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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: UKTruth

I'm getting very intolerant of the left period, like I can't stand anything they say anymore

they lie
misinform
misconstrue
anti American
pro socialist

done with it sick of them

Right. Let me sum up what I learned in this kindergarten for self-radicalization.

Fireworks are IEDs, riots are terrorism, antifascism is antiamerican, rightwingterror never existed in the first place and the protest from the vid in the OP was a protest for "Free Speech", not a counter-protest from the get-go and thus intended to shut down Antifas right of Free Speech.

Mental gymnastics is nothing compared to this expanding alternative universe, you need more rope or something? How may I help?

originally posted by: PublicOpinion

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: UKTruth

Right. Let me sum up what I learned in this kindergarten for self-radicalization.

Fireworks are IEDs, riots are terrorism, antifascism is antiamerican, rightwingterror never existed in the first place and the protest from the vid in the OP was a protest for "Free Speech", not a counter-protest from the get-go and thus intended to shut down Antifas right of Free Speech.

Mental gymnastics is nothing compared to this expanding alternative universe, you need more rope or something? How may I help?

Very interesting post. But, fireworks ARE explosives and they can inflect harm, Riots ARE terrorism when hasn't riots been terrorism? Antiifascism is anti-American, Rightwing terror? What are you talking about? I don't remember seeing any videos where the right violently prevented any of hillary clinton supporters from going to her rallies, or obamas. All the Right wants is to express their same Free Speech that the left is, without have bottles or rocks thrown at them.

a reply to: Chance321

Sure. Technically speaking, even psychological violence would be violence as well.
Which means, that Jesus Christ was a violent socialist who used terrorism to promote his fathers agenda. A very special kind of seemingly harmless terror, I'll give you that, but terror nonetheless. Try to argue with that? No? You feel the urge to mock it instead?
No! Yes. D'OH!

Let's run a counter protest for the Roman Empire now, shall we? I'm thinking massives orgies, music and wine.

#Decadance

This is self-defense?

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a reply to: XAnarchistX

You're such a cynic! It's obviously Free Speech, they just happen to let their boots do all the talking.

a reply to: MemoryShock

Who ever said anything about weakness?

originally posted by: PublicOpinion

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: UKTruth

I'm getting very intolerant of the left period, like I can't stand anything they say anymore

they lie
misinform
misconstrue
anti American
pro socialist

done with it sick of them

Right. Let me sum up what I learned in this kindergarten for self-radicalization.

Fireworks are IEDs, riots are terrorism, antifascism is antiamerican, rightwingterror never existed in the first place and the protest from the vid in the OP was a protest for "Free Speech", not a counter-protest from the get-go and thus intended to shut down Antifas right of Free Speech.

Mental gymnastics is nothing compared to this expanding alternative universe, you need more rope or something? How may I help?

You just did everything I said I was tired of I'm 1 post.

a reply to: PublicOpinion

Not really sure what your talking about. The left wasn't using "psychological" violence against any of the people going to the Trump rallies or the OP's video, they were using real violence. AS far as " You feel the need to mock it instead?" I haven't got a clue what that's about, I wasn't mocking anything. If you think my post was mocking, that's on you.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: sooth
I live in Portland. Most of these "protesters" aren't even from Oregon.

Do you know much about this Patriot Prayer group?

Everything I find suggests that they mostly exist to stage troll rallies (which is of course, within their First Amendment rights.)

If you are going to stage shows, you need antagonists.

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

what would have happened had Antifa respected their lawful right to assemble? would there have been violence?

They don't get paid to just stand there...

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

if you are looking for more context check this video out you can clearly see who's throwing things and instigating violence

pretty loud explosion for a small smoke bomb huh?

looks to me like the people who were getting bombed finally had enough, looks like the antifa crowd are clearly marked with black regalia and were attacking them with rocks and other projectiles for a while before they finally responded

for sure looks like the other group came prepared for violence though, not sure what that means

apparently the "proud boys" form the front line to protect the other protester's not sure who they are

The production values on this staged event, are as good as I've ever seen. Great soundscape editing. The voice...thin chick in the black leotard...is very distinguishable from background noise...despite varying distances and reflective surfaces. Same with the cop announcements.

Most interesting is the guy flying both a British and a Swiss flag....who shows up at least half a dozen times. The one at about 6:50-ish, also has what looks to me like an Amercian flag, except no blue field of stars...just the colony stripes.

Please remember that it is completely legal to propagandize us, since 2012. And how much the deep state loves their symbolism...

Never okay to do that.

originally posted by: Zelun
a reply to: ker2010

the guy who recovered that baton showed SO much restraint. I fully expected him to crack that woman on the jaw, but he just backed off.

ETA: immediately after the guy he just laid out whacked someone with it already on the ground. This was such a loss for the left.

In staged shows, you aren't allowed to hit the talent.