Families Belong Together - Illogical Nationwide Protests on June 30th 2018.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Does that mean it can ignore enforcement?

Of course not. There are a lot of felonious pot smokers out there. Sic 'em!

Rephrase: What is Congress supposed to do?

You may be asking the wrong person. Ask your representative. But in reality the question is, apparently, moot.

a reply to: Phage

Of course not. There are a lot of felonious pot smokers out there. Sic 'em!

Man, you are really big on that issue. Have no fear; I'm actually rooting for Schumer to get his bill through.

You may be asking the wrong person. Ask your representative. But in reality the question is, apparently, moot.

How about we ask the US Constitution? Article 1, Section 1:

All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

That means they make the laws. Sound about right? Doesn't sound moot to me...

TheRedneck

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

I see. The buck stops with Sessions.

THIS buck started with Sessions, but as customary, the President is ultimately responsible. It stops at the President's desk.

That same methodology will apply when the Help Hillary/Stop Trump criminal charges start to be filed.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Man, you are really big on that issue.

I think you missed the point. You know, prioritization?

That means they make the laws. Sound about right? Doesn't sound moot to me...

Yeah. I know they make the laws. Some laws. The laws they want to make. You know, like tax cuts laws.

here in japan
the Muslim stop traffic and pray in the streets 7 times a day. japanese are very mild people, but i think one day this will come to an end. where they pray are mostly muslims living, but not all

a reply to: Phage

I think you missed the point. You know, prioritization?

No, I got it. I'm on your side. I wish Obama had actually got Congress to pass a law back then.

Yeah. I know they make the laws. Some laws.

Constitution says they make all the laws.

So did Congress make the immigration laws?

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

So did Congress make the immigration laws?

Congress alone makes laws.

Laws they want to make. But sometimes it seems even those on the same side of the aisle can't seem to figure out how to do it.

No law...the point is moot.


Wait...are you implying that the whole zero tolerance fiasco is a ploy to get congress to do something? 3D chess?

a reply to: Phage

Congress alone makes laws.

So you are agreeing that Congress made the immigration laws?

]No law...the point is moot.

Or are you saying there is no immigration law?

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

So you are agreeing that Congress made the immigration laws?

Congress alone makes laws. Is that a vague statement?

Or are you saying there is no immigration law?

Eeyup. Ya got me there. I thought there are no immigration laws.

a reply to: Phage

Congress alone makes laws. Is that a vague statement?

Not as direct as I would have preferred.

So who can make a law to fix the border situation? Trump or Congress?

I thought there are no immigration laws.

There are. Glad I could clear that up for you.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

So who can make a law to fix the border situation? Trump or Congress?

Congress alone makes laws. (sheesh)


Congress alone can fix a law (but the court can certainly say one is broken).

You been asking questions for a while. Can I ask one? (Actually, I added one in an edit a couple of posts back but that's my fault.)

Why can't a heavily weighted Republican House of Representatives come up with a bill? Why can't the president of the United States, who happens to be a Republican, give a clear enough message to congress as to what he is willing to sign into law?

The thing with babies didn't even seem to work.

a reply to: Phage

Why can't a heavily weighted Republican House of Representatives come up with a bill? Why can't the president of the United States, who happens to be a Republican, give a clear enough message to congress as to what he is willing to sign into law?

NOW we're getting to a place I can agree with you! They should be able to.

There is the problem with cloture in the Senate. There are not 60 Republicans. But I thought the Democrats were anxious to fix this too? After all, they seem to be the ones screaming loudest.

But yeah, I agree. They should be able to pass a bill to fix this situation. As I understand things, Trump has already said what he wants: the wall and an end to non-merit-based immigration. He's willing to give: amnesty for DACA, faster, easier and expanded legal merit-based immigration. He's also said he is open to more gives.

Sounds fair to me. How about you?

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

There is the problem with cloture in the Senate. There are not 60 Republicans.

It wasn't even close in the House. Either one of the bills.

He's willing to give: amnesty for DACA, faster, easier and expanded legal merit-based immigration.

I see what you did there. Merit based. Sort of like eugenics?

a reply to: Phage

It wasn't even close in the House. Either one of the bills.

Bummer. I hadn't heard.

I see what you did there. Merit based. Sort of like eugenics?

No. More like "can you at least probably support yourself?"

I'm tired of people coming in just because they get free stuff. I want more Americans, not freeloaders.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

No. More like "can you at least probably support yourself?"

One might hope. But you never know. Slippery slopes and stuff.

I'm tired of people coming in just because they get free stuff.

Yeah. That's why people walk 1,500 miles or so. Leave their homes. Free stuff. Everything is groovy in Guatemala. Just no free stuff.

donald trumps grandfather was an unaccompanied minor who had no valuable skills or education. ironic isn't it?

a reply to: Phage

One might hope. But you never know. Slippery slopes and stuff.

A fair enough concern. I don't share it. Yet.

That's why people walk 1,500 miles or so. Leave their homes. Free stuff. Everything is groovy in Guatemala. Just no free stuff.

No, but they do get free stuff for walking across a ditch.

Calling it a night. Good debate. Watch some cartoons.

TheRedneck

a reply to: conspiracy nut

Legal or illegal?

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

No, but they do get free stuff for walking across a ditch.

A free bed?
With their child taken 1,000 miles away?

a reply to: TheRedneck

in those times immigration was basically free and open, you could come on over with no education or skills no big deal, unless of course you were chinese. america passed a law excluding the chinese because of you guessed it taking jobs and racist attitudes towards chinese but if you were white you were alright.

trumps grandpa was no proud american either, he tried going back to germany but they deported him back to the u.s but i thought immigrants of the past were eager to assimilate and become americans?