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originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Gryphon66
Now we're arguing WHEN it is acceptable to destroy the life of an individual human being.
Are we?
When does the fertilized egg become a human being? Which day?
I don't know.
It would be presumptive to assume anyone does.
Then it is not a matter of deciding when it's okay to murder a human, since you don't know when humanhood occurs, right?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Gryphon66
Now we're arguing WHEN it is acceptable to destroy the life of an individual human being.
Are we?
When does the fertilized egg become a human being? Which day?
I don't know.
It would be presumptive to assume anyone does.
Then it is not a matter of deciding when it's okay to murder a human, since you don't know when humanhood occurs, right?
Yet current US law has been presumptive and has made that determination.
originally posted by: norhoc
a reply to: TiggersTheMan
Again you ignore the life that is inside the womb
That's not equal treatment under the law.
originally posted by: Phoenix
It seems to me - a big-time player back in 70's btw - that people act nowadays like the pregnancy was due some virus or something picked up at the grocery store randomly. It's something that happened to them without active participation and therefore consequences unforeseen and measures of extremis are employed to nullify the course of the affliction like a disease.
Bull freaking crap!
If you are to lazy, dumb, ignorant or as I've heard many times "caught up in the moment" doe's that justify killing a human life - how dare you do that for you moments of pleasure and abject ignorance of consequences.
Back in seventies I myself as an underage young person had no qualms about asking for and getting what was needed to prevent pregnancy when there was still stigma attached to the mere asking at a pharmacy - now every single Walmart, Dollar General and Convenience store has supplies on public display - WTH is the excuse!
You kill humans for your utter convenience and use abortion as a means of birth control - its sick!
I am not saying any of this from a religious belief but from an inherent belief in light/dark, right/wrong and definitely a humanistic angle.
Only exception I would entertain are incest, rape and mothers life and yes judicial intervention should be required.
Abortion is NOT birth control, its outright murder.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: burdman30ott6
That's not equal treatment under the law.
Natural law is not man's law. When men can find a way to carry a pregnancy to term, then you'll have equality.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Phoenix
Are you also against war and the death penalty?
Nevermind. You do you and let others do them. We'll all be much happier.
originally posted by: musicismagic
During the Vietnam War, many soldiers got their girlfriends knocked up. Result, abortions. And this is Buddha country. Here in Asia, one goes to the hospital and has an abortion. No one really gives a flying shte. Why are Americans so hung up on others peoples personal lives. Crazy I tell ya.
See what I did there?
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: musicismagic
During the Vietnam War, many soldiers got their girlfriends knocked up. Result, abortions. And this is Buddha country. Here in Asia, one goes to the hospital and has an abortion. No one really gives a flying shte. Why are Americans so hung up on others peoples personal lives. Crazy I tell ya.
Mostly because of religion, primarily Fundamental Christians (The Christian Right).
Ever heard of Dominionism?
en.wikipedia.org...
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Sookiechacha
I see your definition of "equality" is conveniently fluid.
originally posted by: musicismagic
During the Vietnam War, many soldiers got their girlfriends knocked up. Result, abortions. And this is Buddha country. Here in Asia, one goes to the hospital and has an abortion. No one really gives a flying shte. Why are Americans so hung up on others peoples personal lives. Crazy I tell ya.
originally posted by: madmac5150
Life is an absolute miracle.
Destroying life is evil personified.