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Why are American people so hung up on women having abortions ?

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posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:15 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: norhoc

But the male takes on none of the risks of a pregnancy. Does he?



In America? Financial seems to be a fairly large "risk" considering how the paternity courts in this country operate.




posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: carewemust


I agree 100%



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:16 PM
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a reply to: vonclod

What choice are they referencing by chance?



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:16 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6



In America? Financial seems to be a fairly large "risk" considering how the paternity courts in this country operate.

Good point.
Father doesn't want the baby for financial reasons. He should be able to force the mother to have an abortion?

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posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:16 PM
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a reply to: norhoc

Not legally.
The man has no say if the child will or will not be aborted..



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:16 PM
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a reply to: Phage


If liberals had no opposition from conservatives on this issue they would have it that way.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:17 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: matafuchs




All of this and finally 18 months in we have the abortion issue

Probably has something to with...you know...current events.



Supreme Court picks always stir that pot.

As much as I hate abortions, it's settled law vis a vis the Supreme Court. Unless you can find a better Constitutional argument, unfortunately it's here to stay by the courts precedents.

There are far more things to Judge a Supreme Court nominee on, IMO.

Abortion is always going to be a split type vote with Americans.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:17 PM
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a reply to: norhoc

I disagree.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6


Stupid argument, so, because nature chose the mother to carry the baby the father gets no say?



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: norhoc

He is not carrying it for 9 months, not his choice. Like I said, I'm not for it, but I do not believe it's my choice ultimately.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:19 PM
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a reply to: norhoc



Stupid argument, so, because nature chose the mother to carry the baby the father gets no say?

He can express his opinion.
But in the end only one can actually make the choice.
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posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:19 PM
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originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: norhoc



Who decides what is right for the unborn child that cannot defend itself?

Respectfully..not you.
It would be the mothers choice..the one that has to carry it, until it's a human being.
I'm not for abortion, but I believe it's the mothers choice.


Again, if she aborts the child you should not call her mother.

Because by her actions, she literally isn't.

I'm pro-choice, by the way.

I also believe that a fetus usually turns into a human being, if left on it's own devices.

So take whatever action you want, but keep in mind that you are, in fact, not allowing someone to live.

5 kids here, 2 abortions. I own it.

I am Mother to the ones I have. I was the executioner of the other two.

All pro-choice people need to think it through. They should understand the consequences and not brainwash themselves into thinking a human is not a human until a court-appointed date.

Because that's just passing the buck in an attempt to feel good about the choice.

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posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:20 PM
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originally posted by: norhoc
a reply to: Sookiechacha


No it is not, it is a separation of 1 day, same baby


Abortion on demand wasn't legal the day before. The cut off for abortion on demand is at "viability", not just before birth. So no, its still a false equivalency.


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posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari


Well said



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari




I also believe that a fetus usually turns into a human being, if left on it's own devices.

Almost.

Among women who know they are pregnant, the miscarriage rate is roughly 10% to 20%, while rates among all fertilisation is around 30% to 50%.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:22 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: burdman30ott6



In America? Financial seems to be a fairly large "risk" considering how the paternity courts in this country operate.

Good point.
Father doesn't want the baby for financial reasons. He should be able to force the mother to have an abortion?


Not exactly my point, Phage. Just stating the fact that the ideology of the choice only being the female's isn't logical in our system of selective application of responsibility. I don't believe anyone should be forced to have an abortion (now sterilization is a different matter for another topic.) That said, these decisions have serious, life altering impacts on at least 3 distinct parties: mother, father, baby, and it's disingenuous and pandering to hold this idea that it should be all up to the female.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:23 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari




Again, if she aborts the child you should not call her mother.

I guess I can't argue with that..incubator perhaps.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari


Do you enjoy being lectured to by phage ?



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6




Not exactly my point, Phage.
I know it wasn't meant to be.



and it's disingenuous and pandering to hold this idea that it should be all up to the female.
How else can it work? Let a judge decide? Is that what you mean?



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:26 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6




That said, these decisions have serious, life altering impacts on at least 3 distinct parties: mother, father, baby, and it's disingenuous and pandering to hold this idea that it should be all up to the female.


So, it should be up to the government?



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