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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: musicismagic
Its has to be a woman's choice, before the modern age, if you didn't want a pregnancy, you went to a wise woman, who would give you a handful of Mugwort, and that was that. Now its all a big deal. If anyone is against abortions they are welcome to put their money in a trust to support the mother and child.??? suddenly it all goes quiet.
Not so much quiet but morphs into shaming for not taking appropriate precautions and having fun without considering the consequences Yada Yada Yada.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JBurns
Regardless, no use in fighting things that are already settled matters. Just as gun rights are a settled matter and free speech as well.
It's not settled as long as you have the President promising to appoint judges who will work to overturn Roe V Wade. It's not settled when you have VP Pence promising to make abortion illegal. It's not settled while you have state legislatures looking for ways to ban abortion in their prospective states.
Complacency is not good for liberty and freedom is never given freely, it has to be fought for, over and over again.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
I'm not sure (nematodes are a good bet as they can grow from microscopic to a foot long) but the biological definition is a form of symbiosis in which one organism (called parasite) benefits at the expense of another organism usually of different species (called host) - which are met by a foetus.
It’s not at the expense of a different organism, but to its benefit.
Either way, to say a foetus is a parasite is to spit on reproduction and biology. It’s more of a dehumanizing tactic to dismiss the fact that you’re ending human life.
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
I'm not sure (nematodes are a good bet as they can grow from microscopic to a foot long) but the biological definition is a form of symbiosis in which one organism (called parasite) benefits at the expense of another organism usually of different species (called host) - which are met by a foetus.
It’s not at the expense of a different organism, but to its benefit.
Either way, to say a foetus is a parasite is to spit on reproduction and biology. It’s more of a dehumanizing tactic to dismiss the fact that you’re ending human life.
It spits on nothing. You however, spit in the face of education by resorting to emotional drivel to disregard science in favor of "heartstring tugs".
originally posted by: bastion
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
I'm not sure (nematodes are a good bet as they can grow from microscopic to a foot long) but the biological definition is a form of symbiosis in which one organism (called parasite) benefits at the expense of another organism usually of different species (called host) - which are met by a foetus.
It’s not at the expense of a different organism, but to its benefit.
Either way, to say a foetus is a parasite is to spit on reproduction and biology. It’s more of a dehumanizing tactic to dismiss the fact that you’re ending human life.
Nah it's modern midwifery, it's the consensus of world leading scientists in the area. Studies have shown the foetus diverts proteins to itself in preference to the mother.
By acknowledging a foetus secretes the same chemicals as parasites in order to cloak itself allows for far better care of both both foetus and mother as they're the cause of nearly all miscarriage and ill health caused to the mother. The proteins are being used in curing auto-immune disorders, arthritis and the like.
It's not intended to be dehumanizing, these people want to deliver the healthiest babies possible - Soo will have saved a few hundred million lives as she's developed and trains the WHO anti infant mortality/midwifery model that's in use. It only adds to the understanding of human biology and reproduction and makes it all the more fascinating and should provide major advancements in health.
its more probable that politicians do this to rally their base
originally posted by: CB328
its more probable that politicians do this to rally their base
True, plus unwanted children are more likely to be uneducated and can be manipulated into voting for stupid things which is what conservatives want.
originally posted by: Nyiah
That is an astute observation, considering those who are against abortion are largely against adopting those unwanted kids they didn't want aborted to begin with. Which is morally deficient of them, IMO.