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I find pro-life people who are also pro-death penalty a nuisance. I feel that way about everyone who doesn't bother to read widely before spouting their "opinion." (See also: the innocence project).
Complacency is not good for liberty and freedom is never given freely, it has to be fought for, over and over again.
originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
I'm just having fun with idiotic definitions, that's all.
Cum can survive a few weeks in water and it has all the potential to grow into a human being, yes. Kinda surprising, I know. Who woulda thunkt, right?
Join me in the bathtub, Miss Mis. It's nice and cozy.
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: musicismagic
Because:
1. It makes us sad to look at our beautiful children/grandchildren and imagine that they had never been born.
2. If God didn't want that life to enter the Earth realm, he wouldn't have put him/her here.
3. When I look in the mirror, I see a person who wouldn't be here, if abortion was legal at that time.
originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: vonclod
I'm not pro-abortion either. But SCOTUS has already ruled that it is a protected right. Beyond that, national "one size fits all" laws never work. Look at every single type of "prohibition" to see how its working out. Less government, not more
We have more pressing issues than trying to overturn the rights of others.
I don't like abortion. I don't like ANY life to be terminated really for any reason. But how the hell can I ask someone to leave my Constitutional rights alone when I won't do the same?
Overturning Roe v. Wade would be a mistake. It would be an attack on the left and America's women for the sake of attacking them. We gain nothing from doing such. Those wishing to have abortions will continue to do so, whether via travel/drugs or worse. Prohibition never works, on anything
I would implore others reading to consider what I wrote. We don't have to legislate our morality/opinions onto others.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: bastion
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: musicismagic
Because they're in a state of flux where morals are aligned to their faith, and paradox's abound because the breeding ground for life is subjective....
If single cells count as life then masturbation is mass murder - every sperm is sacred... ETA: Scientifically speaking a fetus/placenta is a parasite, it secretes phosphocholine to block proteins and protect it from being rejected by the host body (different genotype, a breakdown in this process causes pre eclampsia and miscarriage. Nematode worms use the process to stay alive in the host.
Agreed it's moral and subjective, what I don't understand is why people can't keep that choice between themselves and their significant other and feel they're entitled to remove the freedom/choice from others.
Hah, you just reminded me of the s#fits people had while I was knocked up and explaining the parasitic symbiosis foundation of pregnancy. Technically, most pregnancies that go well I think would be considered Commensalism symbiosis (one gains, the other neither benefits/gains nor suffers/loses anything) But the mere fact that a bunch of really dumb, ignorant people couldn't give 2 craps less about the process and all they heard was "parasite" out of it, and flipped their lids because "babies aren't parasites!!"...well, no wonder people can't so much as talk about reproductive choices. They can't even talk about what reproduction IS to the body without losing their minds.
Parasites are of a different species than their host, so even for analogy purposes, the parasite talk is pseudoscience.
originally posted by: bastion
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: bastion
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: musicismagic
Because they're in a state of flux where morals are aligned to their faith, and paradox's abound because the breeding ground for life is subjective....
If single cells count as life then masturbation is mass murder - every sperm is sacred... ETA: Scientifically speaking a fetus/placenta is a parasite, it secretes phosphocholine to block proteins and protect it from being rejected by the host body (different genotype, a breakdown in this process causes pre eclampsia and miscarriage. Nematode worms use the process to stay alive in the host.
Agreed it's moral and subjective, what I don't understand is why people can't keep that choice between themselves and their significant other and feel they're entitled to remove the freedom/choice from others.
Hah, you just reminded me of the s#fits people had while I was knocked up and explaining the parasitic symbiosis foundation of pregnancy. Technically, most pregnancies that go well I think would be considered Commensalism symbiosis (one gains, the other neither benefits/gains nor suffers/loses anything) But the mere fact that a bunch of really dumb, ignorant people couldn't give 2 craps less about the process and all they heard was "parasite" out of it, and flipped their lids because "babies aren't parasites!!"...well, no wonder people can't so much as talk about reproductive choices. They can't even talk about what reproduction IS to the body without losing their minds.
Parasites are of a different species than their host, so even for analogy purposes, the parasite talk is pseudoscience.
Nah it's modern midwifery (used to work for Soo Downe who now advises WHO and was involved in the discovery in a UCLan, Reading and Cambridge Uni collaboration. A parasite isn't required to be a different species.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
What species is parasitic to its own?
originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
I'm not sure (nematodes are a good bet as they can grow from microscopic to a foot long) but the biological definition is a form of symbiosis in which one organism (called parasite) benefits at the expense of another organism usually of different species (called host) - which are met by a foetus.