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Is the European beer and c02 shortage caused by a food shortage?

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posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:14 PM
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Interestingly enough I came across this article where apparently they are now rationing beer in Europe due to a C02 shortage so I began wondering... how the hell is there a c02 shortage and where does it come from?

I actually oddly enough found it very difficult to find any real information about the c02 creation process for food grade c02 so if any of you can find solid info on this please post.

Oh but I did read on a forum that they make the food grade c02 from grain products so please help me find better links for that but the article supports this hypothesis with the mention of the


farm-to-fork supply chain


Money.CNN


Beer is being rationed in the United Kingdom because of a shortage of carbon dioxide.



"This is an issue that will affect much of the United Kingdom's ... farm-to-fork supply chain," said Helen Munday, the chief scientific officer at the Food and Drink Federation.


So... apparently there is an issue with the farm to food supply chain.. what the hell is that?

news source


Farmers need closer cooperation with food supply chain


So apparently this leads me to believe this is due to a food shortage which IMO has a lot to do with the maunder minimum .

Now... not sure how many of you noticed but we had a VERY late spring this year. It was snowing in April where I'm at and BAM out of nowhere at the end of May it was like a jungle outside in 2 weeks. But it was winter until almost May.

Apprently this wasn't just something I anecdotally experience, the planting season didn't start until a month later than normal which lead to even lower yields as it will now be a shorter planting season.

AGWEB


Spring Forecast: Another Late Start to Planting


I put one of the most important words in that sentence in the article... ANOTHER late planting season which also leads me to believe this is responsible for the beer shortage in Europe.

Now another member discovered something I had been also watching closely which has been being speculate about for some time now by other conspiracy theorist that Atlantis.. oops Antartica is breaking up due to volcanic activity and not "global warming hoax".

I think we may have some rough years ahead if we don't start tackling this issue. Build some mini green houses using an aquaponics system and get used to growing your own veggies just in case. This food shortage thing may get more serious as this is suppose to be a 30 year cycle.

Little Ice Age Foot Shortages
Food prices rising


Climate change creates more drought. Greenhouse gas emissions trap heat, causing air temperatures to increase. Hot air absorbs more moisture. It rains less, water from lakes and rivers evaporate, and the land dries up. When it does rain, the water runs off the land instead of getting absorbed into the water table. That creates floods.


Well, as you should know at this point the food shortage has been caused by low yields due to later planting because of a longer winter. You will know what I am saying is true by watching the rising cost of food. Pay attention closely and post your anecdotes here.

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posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:24 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Mate,

Can I just say, BEER & SHORTAGE are two words that should never be in the same sentence, unless of course you're pointing out that they shouldn't be in the same sentence.

That is some hardcore doom porn.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:24 PM
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The tax on carbon dioxide is causing shortages of beer in the UK? I think they are just trying to get back at the citizens there for their voting for Brexit. I cannot see how there could be a shortage of CO2. Maybe the Paris climate thing is trying to make people believe we are having a shortage because it is all up in the atmosphere?



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:26 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

You are going to have to actually read the thread I gave a pretty detailed explanation of everything and judging by your response you totally ignored most of it.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:27 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

The irony of a C02 shortage is proof the universe likes to make fun of us.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:27 PM
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a reply to: myselfaswell




That is some hardcore doom porn.


I know it seems doomy but what's making it doomy is the silence on the topic. The MSM does not want to reverse course on "global warming" the hoax that it is because that's where the money is and it's part of agenda 21.

This would blow that up.

With a little effort and technology we could easily adapt to this. It's not catastrophic unless we let it become catastrophic.
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posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:28 PM
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It would seem this short supply is due to a combination of heat wave and extra demand from the world cup, all the articles I've read suggest things will return to Normal after the football is over.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:29 PM
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originally posted by: loam
a reply to: toysforadults

The irony of a C02 shortage is proof the universe likes to make fun of us.


I know I thought it sounded funny which is when i spent an hour reading about it.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:30 PM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

They say a lot of things that aren't true. They say a lot of things that fit the narrative but are only partially true or they totally lie and make things up.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:31 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Apparently 2 plants that make the stuff have closed for maintance they process ammonia and make food grade co2 to fizz soft drinks beer etc .



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:32 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

They say a lot of things that aren't true. They say a lot of things that fit the narrative but are only partially true or they totally lie and make things up.






Yes they do say a lot of things and yes there are a plethora of lies to wade through...



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

That still doesn't explain the referencing of the food-to-fork supply chain in the first article.

Also do you understand how the food grade C02 is processed?



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:37 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

I believe what they were referencing is that be able to sufficiently supply our increased population with food a change is needed, the current system needs to be overhauled and a closer relationship between farmers and suppliers needs to be established. With the population expected to be 10 billion by 2050 changes need to happen now. At least that's how I understand it.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:38 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: rickymouse

You are going to have to actually read the thread I gave a pretty detailed explanation of everything and judging by your response you totally ignored most of it.


I actually read the whole thread. If there is a shortage because of the maunder minimum, I have not heard of it yet, the shortage of grains probably isn't going to start for another year. I would think that this shortage is being created to try to convince the citizens to go back to the EU. The technique of trying to spread dependency fears is not new, it has been going on for thousands of years. We are not quite into the time of the maunder minimum.

There could be problems with lower yealds of grains because of changes in agriculture or from over taxing of fields.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

The shortage happened last year due to the late planting season.

Later planting season or shorter growing season = lower yields = less crops.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:41 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: rickymouse

Apparently 2 plants that make the stuff have closed for maintance they process ammonia and make food grade co2 to fizz soft drinks beer etc .


That should be a temporary shortage, maybe a month maximum.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:42 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Maybe if we could scrub the CO2 out of the atmosphere, we could put it into beer and have everyone drink more Beer and solve Global warming.

Now that's a cause I can back 1,000%



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:47 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: rickymouse

The shortage happened last year due to the late planting season.

Later planting season or shorter growing season = lower yields = less crops.


Grains usually mature in a cycle that is way less than the local season. If you plant them late, the harvest is usually later, it might go into a rainy season and ruin the harvest though. I grew up on the farm in the summer, we live in the UP where we get less summer than the UK I think.

Maybe it is different where we live environmentally than where you guys are from, there there is salt in the air and that may make a difference.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:48 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: rickymouse

Apparently 2 plants that make the stuff have closed for maintance they process ammonia and make food grade co2 to fizz soft drinks beer etc .


That should be a temporary shortage, maybe a month maximum.





I concur



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:54 PM
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LOL Doesn't beer produce its own co2?

I know silly question, simple solution.




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