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Vegas Shooting: Inconsistencies and Coincidences: Unanswered Questions and Irreconcilable Facts

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posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 10:25 AM
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I have to say up front that I'm not especially impressed with this article, but it does provide something of an update on the Vegas shooting investigation, and raises some good questions about the event and investigation. But this article ("Part I") is simply setting up the next article ("Part II"), which I will cover in the next post.

Full title at link: Too Many Inconsistencies and Coincidences: The Unanswered Questions and Irreconcilable Facts About The Mandalay Bay Shooting Last October, Part I, An Incomprehensible Narrative

A recently compiled All Source Intelligence Assessment on the October 2017 mass shooting at the Route 91 country concert in Las Vegas that was provided to Congress sheds light on the growing suspicion that there was more than one shooter and a larger story to tell on the motivation behind the deceased Stephen Paddock and his possible accomplices, however, law enforcement authorities have proven inept at seeing the investigation through to its proper conclusion.

I wouldn't call the LEOs' performance as "inept." They know exactly what they're doing. And more importantly, why they are doing it. We don't know but they sure do!

The first shady detail of this tragic day almost nine months ago was the fact that Las Vegas Police were ordered to turn their body cameras off before engaging with the shooter and throughout much of the shooting. Video evidence recently released under court order shows officers turning their body cameras off, obeying orders given down from people at the highest levels of authority...

Shady indeed. There is no reason to turn off body cams unless one wants to hide the truth. Which begs the obvious question: What did they know going in that they did not want to be known publicly??? And who exactly gave these orders? Was it local authorities? Or (my guess) federal authorities? There is no doubt the FBI and other federal agents/agencies are calling the shots now... but at what point did the feds take over?

There have been so many changes to the official narrative, but I find this one to be the most disturbing:

...contradicting the LVMPD’s and FBI’s initial claims, recent documents point to three women found in Paddock’s hotel room on the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay.... Paddock was not alone in his room.

So the "lone gunman" wasn't so alone after all. Was Paddock alone during the shooting? Where exactly were each and every one of these women at the time of the shooting? Did some of the many phones found in the room belong to any of these women? And, of course, who were they? Were they personal friends/family? Paid companions? Business associates? Terrorists???

Questions are also raised about audio which seems to confirm that multiple weapons are being fired simultaneously, and a video taken within the concert grounds of the beginning of the shooting.

The article also mentions the many reports of multiple shooters at many locations, including reports on police audio. This article doesn't go into any detail, but these accounts are detailed in an ATS thread here for anyone interested in checking those out further.

So many questions and so few answers... Including questions about one eyewitness, Brian Hodge, an Australian, who claims to have been in the room next door... the same room that authorities said Paddock had also booked and fired from during the attack.

The one suspect who appears to be a second shooter or accomplice of Paddock’s is an Australian named Brian Hodge, who is discussed at length in the assessment and should be hauled in for questioning and be the subject of extensive further investigation based on his social media activity and his whereabouts derived from location-based research and analysis.

The "Assessment" can be found here.
I think this guy and his story need to be looked into further, but not for the same reasons. Whereas this article considers Mr. Hodge a suspect, and perhaps he should be -- I'm certainly not ruling it out! But I'm more inclined to think he knows too much and therefore has to be discredited at all costs... up to and including making him a suspect.

(continued in next post)




posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 10:26 AM
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(continued from above post)

Too Many Inconsistencies and Coincidences: The Unanswered Questions and Irreconcilable Facts About The Mandalay Bay Shooting Last October, Part II, The Second Shooter and/or Accomplice

Part II focuses on Brian Hodge as a second shooter, based on questionable activity before, during and after the attack, and seemingly sourced to the "Alternative Theory of Investigation Version 7"

This assessment was requested following published reports regarding a possible second shooter or accomplice, who accompanied Stephen Paddock, the supposed lone gunman responsible for the attack upon the Route 91 Country Music Festival in Las Vegas, Nevada on 1 October 2017. The report fuses open source information with tactical counter terrorism analysis, cyber-enabled human intelligence, and digital data mining capabilities. The result is a comprehensive review that uses existing publicly available data and open source exploitation to propose an alternative theory of investigation.

Take it for what it's worth. I cannot find who wrote it, who "requested" it, or any official record of it being "briefed to Congress", as claimed in its "description".

The majority of this article is devoted to the erratic and irreconcilable statements and actions by Brian Hodge.

In a nutshell, Brian Hodge hails from Australia, was/is living in Los Angeles, and was visiting Vegas on business at the time of the attack. He was among the first to post on social media about the attack taking place, and among the first to give interviews. He claimed to be staying in the room next door to Paddock, in the same adjoining room that we were told Paddock also reserved and fired from, and that he witnessed a shoot-out on the 32nd floor with one or more "Asian" gunman ("Asian" aka middle eastern), resulting in a security guard shot and killed. He claimed to have then fled and hid in the bushes, from where he posted to social media.
Mr. Hodge also gave interviews to Australian news media in the next 24 hours, which the article summarizes:

He confirmed that he was staying inside the shooter’s suite on the 32nd floor during the time of the attack, departing the floor via the elevator and exiting the hotel through the kitchen, hiding in the bushes for 3.5 hours.
He knows that Mr. Paddock brought a “a specific hammer that is designed to break that glass, double pane or bullet proof or whatever casino glass is made of” in order to shatter the windows of the hotel suite.
He claims he was monitoring social media and listening to police “live scans.”
He [told] kitchen employees [to] “get us outside the casino” in order to avoid the imminent lockdown of the hotel or to avoid cameras.
He states there are “100 odd shots” which is a strange coincidence given the use of 100 round sure-fire magazines. A picture from Mr. Paddock’s room depicts a rifle with this type of 100 round magazine affixed.
Hodge also [snip] claims to have allowed the hotel staff and the police go in and gather his belongings on his behalf.
He states that immediately after the attack he needed to “stay down, stay hidden” for 3.5 hours.
He says, “from the hotel room….some of my team….could see” when describing what the attack was like.

And there's quite a bit about tracking via his social media postings and Mr. Hodge not necessarily being where he said he was:

Mr. Hodge arrived in Las Vegas on September 30th. Legacy social media analysis tracked Mr. Hodge to Las Vegas that afternoon. He appears to have visited the Bellagio Hotel that evening and checked into his Mandalay Bay room, 32-314, at around 12:15 AM on October 1st.

There is no source cited for Mr. Hodge's check-in time, nor for the specific room number. I'm pretty sure "legacy social media analysis" didn't tell him that!

During the attack, Hodge tweeted out at 10:52 PM that he was “hiding in the bushes.” However, Hodge took the extremely unusual step to disable his geo-location function on his Twitter and had done so since his departure from LA. Disabling this masks a user’s actual location.

The geolocation feature stays disabled throughout the attack that night, during which he also claimed that there were “multiple shooters” with “one on my hotel room floor.”

So okay, that's odd... if true. Especially if the sources are also right about this:

...Hodge posted on Facebook that there is a “live shooter with a gun in my hotel in Vegas right now, but I got outside safely and hiding in bushes.” What is quite perplexing is the fact that this post tracked Mr. Hodge to Enterprise, Nevada, 8 miles south of Mandalay Bay.

Well, okay, but in that context, this is also quite perplexing:

Social media analysis also discovered that Hodge departed the Mandalay Bay area shortly after the attack and traveled to a motel 10 miles north at the Knotty Pine Motel.

Now I'm confused... did he go south to Enterprise... or north to the Knotty Pine? Or both? Or neither? Are these "legacy" trackers maybe not so accurate and therefore unreliable?
Mr. Hodge's travels before the shooting --

According to Facebook, Hodge traveled to Berlin, Paris, London, and back to Berlin two weeks prior to the attacks in Vegas.

-- and after the shooting are also questioned:

He went from Las Vegas to Albuquerque then back to Vegas on the way home to LA.

As well as a guest staying at the Knotty Pine motel that night:

A Mexican National named German Moreno was renting a room there the night Hodge was reportedly there. Mr. Moreno’s car has a license plate tag which points to him being from Guanajuato, Mexico, specifically, the city of Penjamo. This part of Mexico has dealt with Islamic State issues in recent years.

I'm not sure how significant this is though. I'm sure there are questionable people staying in or around Vegas every night... and on this particular night, folks were fleeing willy nilly to get themselves out of harm's way. They could have and probably did end up in all kinds of unexpected places.

I have a feeling we're going to be hearing more about the Vegas shooting in the near future. And quite probably another change to the official story.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

I remember reading about Saudi involvement and potential terrorism ties to the attack.

This tragedy does not seem to pass the sniff test based on the events that transpired (that we know about) and the official story/MSM



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 10:53 AM
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a reply to: FamCore

Nope! Sure doesn't pass the smell test. Too little information and too many changes to what little there is.

I'm keeping the Saudi connection in mind as well -- to be specific, that it was an assassination attempt on the new Saudi leader, Prince bin Salmon. The claims of ISIS that they were responsible came almost immediately... and the shake up in Saudi happened just a couple short weeks later. There was also a respected attorney in Malaysia (iirc) who made the same claims. I certainly don't think it can be ruled out -- at least not by us.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 10:59 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Investmentwatchblog.com

?!?!?

Is that an actual news site that employs actual journalists???

If not, because it doesn’t sound like it is...

How do we know if the particulars of the case were not falsified???



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Right.

If it's not from CNN then it isn't true... Right?



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Boadicea

How do we know if the particulars of the case were not falsified???


We don't, as noted in the OP, more than once. Especially because we do not have enough information released from the authorities investigating to know better.

We just don't know. Which is much of the problem.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

A) Is a real news source reporting officers were told to cut off their cameras???

I could see a police chief not wanting any mistakes caught on film inwhat was sure to be a national story..

A crap call that should be illegal, but happens all the time on the officer level..

But then again. That’s the problem with sourcing a blog.. we don’t know what is true and what is not.. and no one has time to go back and fact check every step of the way..

B) what are these eledged documents that say there were 3 women in the room?? The quote makes that claim but doesn’t say where these documents came from or what they say..



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:16 AM
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It’s good the conspiracy people understand this was a FAKE mass murder like most of these updated MKultra, hidden elite war, jobs are.

But they’ll NEVER solve any of these killings except the few, usually still MK ultra updated young guys, like the guy who murdered John Lennon, who after the event turn themselves in.

This was likely a CIA induced mass murder; many of the others, the so-called jihadi terrorism jobs are usually FBI induced.

How do you tell, usually by the victims.

It’s a hidden war of the western elite versus the eastern elite. They use us as pawns or like shooting ducks. It’s a game to them and we are the chess and checker pieces.

edit on 28-6-2018 by Willtell because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Boadicea

A) Is a real news source reporting officers were told to cut off their cameras???


Yes. The information came from audio recordings released by law enforcement after media outlets sued.
Some officers turned off body cameras after Las Vegas shooting

In four separate Las Vegas police videos from the night of the Oct. 1 shooting, officers are instructed to turn their body cameras off.
Records released Wednesday by the Metropolitan Police Department under court order included 28 body camera videos.

Body camera footage, 911 audio released by police from 1 October

...two body cameras show different officers in the stairwell up to the 32nd floor when the door is breached. The group of officers get in an elevator after and someone tells them all to turn off their body cameras.


But then again. That’s the problem with sourcing a blog.. we don’t know what is true and what is not.. and no one has time to go back and fact check every step of the way.


Hence the need for our own due diligence... following links... doing our own searches... etc. Sometimes we still can't, and it can be quite frustrating, but I try to always make that clear in my OPs.


B) what are these eledged documents that say there were 3 women in the room?? The quote makes that claim but doesn’t say where these documents came from or what they say..

This has not been widely reported, but the information did come from the LVMPD along with other evidence released:

Computer Aided Dispatch (CAD) records from the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department’s Communication Center released Wednesday indicate that gunman Stephen Paddock had three females registered to his room.


The CAD records released last week indicate: 23:02:36 798/ Update units in control room 32 Room 135 Poss suspect name of PADDOCK, STEPHEN There 3 females in room [name redacted] #2 [name redacted] #3 [name redacted] [bo]oked on 9-25 to check out Oct 2nd.

You can see copies here: Stephen Paddock’s hotel records show three women registered in his room



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

was columbine a chessgame too? we had a massshooting in munich two years ago... so, this was the cia, right? are there any regular massshootings or they are all staged? bataclan, as i learned from youtube, was a hollogramm.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: Willtell


This was likely a CIA induced mass murder; many of the others, the so-called jihadi terrorism jobs are usually FBI induced.

How do you tell, usually by the victims.

It’s a hidden war of the western elite versus the eastern elite. They use us as pawns or like shooting ducks. It’s a game to them and we are the chess and checker pieces.


Very very interesting... I'm going to have to think about that and previous mass shootings in this light and see what comes to mind. Maybe nothing. Maybe something. Thank you!



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

liking your posts more and more, if it isn't mainstream garbage then it isn't true.. All of us know there is more to the shooter then meets the eye... any information should be looked at with open eyes.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: vinifalou
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Right.

If it's not from CNN then it isn't true... Right?



Do you just like posting stupid stuff? Or is that how you actually act in the real world?



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: MarlbBlack
a reply to: Boadicea

liking your posts more and more...


Thank you!


...if it isn't mainstream garbage then it isn't true.. All of us know there is more to the shooter then meets the eye... any information should be looked at with open eyes.


I'm right there with you! And especially when the critters with all the power and all the information can't keep their story straight? There's a reason our founding documents DEMAND government critters prove EVERYTHING they want to claim.... the lack of transparency is always the first clue something is being hidden, eh?



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: Willtell

was columbine a chessgame too? we had a massshooting in munich two years ago... so, this was the cia, right? are there any regular massshootings or they are all staged? bataclan, as i learned from youtube, was a hollogramm.


Who can tell? Certainly there are legitimate lone killers, but the evidence of the government being behind many of these events is all over the place, you just have to do a little research: 911, JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X, John Lennon and operation Northwood’s, and many more, as well, many we’ve never and never will hear of.

They've obviously gotten better over the years and can employ many kinds of killers and killing machines.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 12:21 PM
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The way the "official narrative" shifts and changes on this one, they need an official spokesman.
Maybe the Jon Lovits character from Saturday night live of old.

Yeah! That's the ticket! He was in the room with his wife,,,, Morgan Fairchild.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 12:38 PM
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I think Hodge was simply a plant to begin a number of alternative stories to obfuscate the truth of what happened. There are many details that point to a pre-planned attack by state actors with control over Federal assets. Shots were supposedly fired at a half dozen hotels yet not a single shooter was caught or video taped? Nope. It all stinks of cover for something else entirely which IMO is still the assassination of Bin Salman. My biggest reason for that is because of all the strange helicopter traffic which ran against regulations and had several choppers that went "dark" - much like 9/11 when the same thing happened and the Saudis were the only people allowed to leave the country.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: vinifalou

No just any old actual news source that employs actual journalists who get fired for falsifying stories would do..



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

No I mean fabrications In The article you posted??




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