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are you proud to be an American? do you get offended when others are not?

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posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: Vroomfondel




National pride is not wrong. In fact, in many ways it is necessary. This is our home. Many people just like us fought and died to make the USA what it is today. Well, to be more accurate, they fought and died to make the USA what it should be today.


A real world example of what happens when you have no national pride is Iraq.

There is NO national pride there AT ALL and those cowards in the regular army ran from ISIS leaving behind their weapons.




posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

Our Constitution is one of the greatest documents ever written.



Curious: have you ever done comparisons to other Constitutions?

You do know ours is kind of a hodge-podge throw together from various other documents.


How many have you compared?
I'm English. The American constitution was/is founded upon a concept of inalienable rights many countries would be bitterly jealous of, or desperate to repress. You even have the right to be offended.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 06:41 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Can you show me some examples please?



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

Our Constitution is one of the greatest documents ever written.



Curious: have you ever done comparisons to other Constitutions?

You do know ours is kind of a hodge-podge throw together from various other documents.


How many have you compared?
I'm English. The American constitution was/is founded upon a concept of inalienable rights many countries would be bitterly jealous of, or desperate to repress. You even have the right to be offended.


I said nothing disparaging - so don't knee-jerk react.

I asked this question because of a discussion I listened to. It was a few years ago. It was very interesting.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 06:51 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: Annee

Can you show me some examples please?


Wish I could find the discussion I listened to - - that brought me to ask the question.

But, I've got a billion things going on right now. I just popped in to take a short break.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: Annee

um, most other constitutions that are called such are modeled, heavily, on the US constitution.

A lot of people make big claims for the Magna Carta, but it was granted by a reluctant king at the point of a sword; and he refused to abide by it in his lifetime.

The code of Justinian looks more like canon law of the Roman Church than it does like any predecessor for what the USA did.

The Algonquin Federation was as big an impact as any European prototype. The Articles of Confederation which preceded the constitution, and which were more closely molded on the Algonquin type, were horribly weak and ineffectual.

All of the republics of Mexico, France, even the Soviet constitution were made in response to things their designers saw in America.

that was a long time ago.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:33 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

Gratitude is good. How about love for country? People's pride in country stems from a love of country and countrymen. It is too bad that Progressives conflate the love of country with the abhorrence of the Nazi Party and WW II Germany. The Russians also had great pride in country, yet I never hear the Progressives griping about that. Their abject hatred of America and all she stands for (ie freedom, liberty, and the right to property) blinds them as their pursuit of a centralized government fits right into the One World Government planned for us by the Elites.

One other thing I feel the need to say is that the Elites and the NWO are Internationalists and have no loyalty to any country, hence they would sacrifice the needs of a particular country depending on their need for control or strategy. The ends justify the means. They will even sacrifice their own for the plan. (think Seth Rich among others).
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posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:45 PM
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a reply to: introvert




Many of those that call themselves patriots do not seem to impart that sort of mindset. They come off as being more arrogant and entitled, rather than humble and grateful.


Really? Your idea of entitlement and mine are surely different. What do you these people are being arrogant and entitled about? Because I think of entitlement as expecting government to do things for you, you know like provide housing and such. Of course that is socialism which comes out of the entitlement culture. Sadly, Progressives have reversed what JFK said about thinking not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country.
So really what entitlements and arrogance are you speaking of?



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:50 PM
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originally posted by: Whoisjohngalt

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: DerBeobachter

originally posted by: projectvxn
The best thing about being an American is that anyone can be one no matter where you're from.

We can be proud of that.


Yeah, more than ever since the Trump-"U"SA.

You need to mark sarcastic comments with a sarcasm sign, some people don´t get it otherwise.

fk u hitler


.....democrats fought to keep slavery and also created the kkk.....


"BUT THEN THE PARTIES SWITCHED AND NOW WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS!!!!!1!" -Democrats anytime someone mentions this.
I think I just posted something similar on this website.... it is a standard statement I see lots.



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:50 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

I am proud to be an american. To be apart of something that so many have layed down their lives to protect gives me pride. The idea that all men (people) are created equally and that no man be relegated to his station unless it be his will or the account of his own actions... that makes me proud. I think it's okay to find pride in being part of something... is it really any different than being proud of who you are, your values, or choices? I am dissapointed when people fail to see the value and greatness in America, but I am not offended, that is their right



posted on Jun, 28 2018 @ 11:53 PM
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originally posted by: tovenar
a reply to: Annee

um, most other constitutions that are called such are modeled, heavily, on the US constitution.

A lot of people make big claims for the Magna Carta, but it was granted by a reluctant king at the point of a sword; and he refused to abide by it in his lifetime.

The code of Justinian looks more like canon law of the Roman Church than it does like any predecessor for what the USA did.

The Algonquin Federation was as big an impact as any European prototype. The Articles of Confederation which preceded the constitution, and which were more closely molded on the Algonquin type, were horribly weak and ineffectual.

All of the republics of Mexico, France, even the Soviet constitution were made in response to things their designers saw in America.

that was a long time ago.


Thank you. I'm not really finding any answers myself on the subject.

And, I do not want to argue this here in this thread. I was just responding to a post.

This would make a good thread of its own.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:54 AM
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People who have pride in things they had no choice over? Worthless.

Have pride in what you do not what you were born with.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 03:28 PM
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America is a complex country. It's had slaves, killed many people, violently influenced regime change or minipulated elections, drone strike women and children, created and helped create long ruthless wars and conflicts. Yet, it has allowed so many to prosper through freedom and democracy.

It's complex, and I think blind patriotism is harmful. America can't become better if we just say how great it is, because it's not great for everybody.

I see so many knee-jerk reactions to anybody that questions America.



posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 06:01 AM
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originally posted by: notsure1
If tomorrow all the things were gone
I worked for all my life
And I had to start again
With just my children and my wife
I thank my lucky stars
To be living here today
'Cause the flag still stands for freedom
And they can't take that away
And I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me
And I'd gladly stand up next to you
And defend Her still today
'Cause there ain't no doubt
I love this land
God Bless the U.S.A.
From the lakes of Minnesota
To the hills of Tennessee
Across the plains of Texas
From sea to shining sea
From Detroit down to Houston
And New York to L.A.
Where's pride in every American heart
And it's time we stand and say
That I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me
And I'd gladly stand up next to you
And defend Her still today
'Cause there ain't no doubt
I love this land
God Bless the U.S.A.
And I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me
And I'd gladly stand up next to you
And defend Her still today
'Cause there ain't no doubt
I love this land
God Bless the U.S.A.



Powerful words. I too would gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today.Cause their aint no doubt I love this land! GOD BLESS THE USA.



posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 06:05 AM
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originally posted by: notsure1
a reply to: TinySickTears

What is ok to be proud of OP?


That we fight against tyranny and FOR the freedom of all mankind.

I am sure many of us got it, did you?



posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 06:07 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
I am proud to be an American. As such I will adopt the Will Rogers approach and allow and defend the right of another to feel otherwise.


That is noble, he never met anyone he didn't like. We all need you to emulate that too. Thanks in advance for changing to be like Will Rogers, he was awesome!



posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 06:15 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: WarPig1939

Out of curiosity, what did you do to make you proud of being born here? Pride should typically arise from accomplishment, right?

I don't understand pride in things that one is born into. And im not asking in any sort of sarcastic way.



My answer to that BFFT is that I am glad to be born here. I am Proud that USA stands for the freedom of ALL of mankind and fairness to ALL with Justice FOR ALL.

If that is not something then shoot me now.

ETA

The globalist will not stop until we are back under their thumbs or they are dead. We free peoples of the free world are the fatted cow to the globalist and we must be slaughtered or subjugated is the harsh reality of their game.

The USA stands in their way, period.
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posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 06:28 AM
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as an american my allegiance is to the united states. i fly the flag on my house and i am proud of what the flag represents and the values of what it means to be an american.

i am grateful to have been born in this country at a time when one could truly become successful if they work hard enough to get it regardless of race, religion, sex etc etc.

i am proud of many of the united states achievements but i am also ashamed of many of our past disgraces.

as an american i feel it is my patriotic duty and right to question my government at all times. i do not believe in blind patriotism.



posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 06:38 AM
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originally posted by: conspiracy nut
as an american my allegiance is to the united states. i fly the flag on my house and i am proud of what the flag represents and the values of what it means to be an american.

i am grateful to have been born in this country at a time when one could truly become successful if they work hard enough to get it regardless of race, religion, sex etc etc.

i am proud of many of the united states achievements but i am also ashamed of many of our past disgraces.

as an american i feel it is my patriotic duty and right to question my government at all times. i do not believe in blind patriotism.


Well stated. THAT should get a buttload of stars IMO.



posted on Jun, 30 2018 @ 07:06 AM
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As a Christian, my identity is in Christ and my citizenship the kingdom of heaven. This loyalty supersedes all.
As a citizen of the British Isle, my loyalty is to Great Britain.
As an Englishman, my loyalty is to England.
My loyalties and concerns focus on my local town and county.
Even though I am English, I feel no loyalty to my government or anything that London may or may not represent.
I live in a country that is lush and green, that once held to ideals of fairness, justice and mercy.
It was responsible for great innovations and institutions.
It was also responsible for great atrocities and inequalities.
I love my country, I'm proud to be English. I am annoyed when people who represent the antithesis of everything I hold to hold contempt for this country whilst enjoying all the benefits it gives them. But as an Englishmen, I give them the right to hold that view, just as I give myself the right to challenge them and their opinions and expect them to process that.




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