are you proud to be an American? do you get offended when others are not?

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: TinySickTears

Depends whether you're talking to a MAGA yank, or a ex-Hillary supporter yank or an Antifa yank or a Bernie-bros yank, also depends on whether you're talking to a liberal urban yank or a conservative rural yank - each category has a different type of pride that the others simply don't share - except that they all wish the others would just disappear off the face of the earth.

I like being called a stupid American - it makes me proud.

Except you're suppose to be Australian. remember?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
I am proud to be an American. As such I will adopt the Will Rogers approach and allow and defend the right of another to feel otherwise.

What about the citizen who despises Americans and has openly stated their intent to cause you harm?

defend their rights, still??

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Lab4Us

Thats exactly what i am talking about....

...our pride stems from the laurels of our grandfathers, not from our own actions. In fact, i'd bet that if people were honest with themselves they'd be less than satisfied with the world they are leaving their children.

What do we, as a nation, have to be proud of today? What have we done? Besides let our government get away with some pretty gnarly stuff?

Pride shouldn't be tied to the actions of our grandfathers...its resting on their laurels.

This point right here is my beef with being told to be proud of being American.

No.

I won't ride the coat tails of the dead regarding things I didn't even exist during, thank you.

If people are placated with that, then...well...there isn't much to be proud of, since we have to go back generations to find something to hold up as "proof" of national pride earned. The people posting here today didn't win any of those old wars, turn the tides in any of those old social conflicts, change the old, unfair laws. They didn't do jack s# to earn the right to claim pride from them. Even riding old family achievements is low and shows you didn't achieve much yourself if you have to fall back on that to be proud about something.

As far as I'm concerned, trying to tell me you're "proud" to be American -- or ANY nationality these days -- is about as hollow as it gets anymore. Earn your own right to pride, don't cling to something way before your time and try to mooch it.

a reply to: TinySickTears

Simple Answer - Yes , and Yes .

originally posted by: Connector

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: TinySickTears

Depends whether you're talking to a MAGA yank, or a ex-Hillary supporter yank or an Antifa yank or a Bernie-bros yank, also depends on whether you're talking to a liberal urban yank or a conservative rural yank - each category has a different type of pride that the others simply don't share - except that they all wish the others would just disappear off the face of the earth.

I like being called a stupid American - it makes me proud.

Except you're suppose to be Australian. remember?

He might have just slipped and let us know he is an Expat!

When I look at the stars and stripes I see what the united states should have been, and what it could still be. And im proud of that.
How things are now? Ehhhhhhhhhhhh. Not so much. Still better than everwhere else though.

I am proud of, that i am Ukrainian. My Motherland gave me the quality of character and mentality, which I have.

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Lab4Us

Thats exactly what i am talking about....

...our pride stems from the laurels of our grandfathers, not from our own actions. In fact, i'd bet that if people were honest with themselves they'd be less than satisfied with the world they are leaving their children.

What do we, as a nation, have to be proud of today? What have we done? Besides let our government get away with some pretty gnarly stuff?

Pride shouldn't be tied to the actions of our grandfathers...its resting on their laurels.

This point right here is my beef with being told to be proud of being American.

No.

I won't ride the coat tails of the dead regarding things I didn't even exist during, thank you.

If people are placated with that, then...well...there isn't much to be proud of, since we have to go back generations to find something to hold up as "proof" of national pride earned. The people posting here today didn't win any of those old wars, turn the tides in any of those old social conflicts, change the old, unfair laws. They didn't do jack s# to earn the right to claim pride from them. Even riding old family achievements is low and shows you didn't achieve much yourself if you have to fall back on that to be proud about something.

As far as I'm concerned, trying to tell me you're "proud" to be American -- or ANY nationality these days -- is about as hollow as it gets anymore. Earn your own right to pride, don't cling to something way before your time and try to mooch it.

So your saying its not right to be proud of your family heritage and your families achievements or what not.... pffft, you got deep deep depressing issues brochacho. Im proud, i love my grand parents, my parents, there achievements and mine aswell. I am a proud American

originally posted by: DerBeobachter

originally posted by: projectvxn
The best thing about being an American is that anyone can be one no matter where you're from.

We can be proud of that.

Yeah, more than ever since the Trump-"U"SA.

You need to mark sarcastic comments with a sarcasm sign, some people don´t get it otherwise.

fk u hitler and your nwo germany.

originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: DerBeobachter

originally posted by: projectvxn
The best thing about being an American is that anyone can be one no matter where you're from.

We can be proud of that.

Yeah, more than ever since the Trump-"U"SA.

You need to mark sarcastic comments with a sarcasm sign, some people don´t get it otherwise.

fk u hitler

You do know hitler was the national socialist party, democrats fought to keep slavery and also created the kkk. Among many others... just saying before you go name calling you better fact check
MAGA

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: DerBeobachter

originally posted by: projectvxn
The best thing about being an American is that anyone can be one no matter where you're from.

We can be proud of that.

Yeah, more than ever since the Trump-"U"SA.

You need to mark sarcastic comments with a sarcasm sign, some people don´t get it otherwise.

fk u hitler

.....democrats fought to keep slavery and also created the kkk.....

"BUT THEN THE PARTIES SWITCHED AND NOW WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS!!!!!1!" -Democrats anytime someone mentions this.

a reply to: TinySickTears

I'm proud to be an American in the traditional way as I grew up,but I am not proud of some of our history I was made aware of as I grew older,the American everyday person who works for a living raise fine family's is what I indentify with,helping one another,not this world control,stay out of ones business they will do fine

originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: DerBeobachter

originally posted by: projectvxn
The best thing about being an American is that anyone can be one no matter where you're from.

We can be proud of that.

Yeah, more than ever since the Trump-"U"SA.

You need to mark sarcastic comments with a sarcasm sign, some people don´t get it otherwise.

fk u hitler

You do know hitler was the national socialist party, democrats fought to keep slavery and also created the kkk. Among many others... just saying before you go name calling you better fact check
MAGA

......I had a liberal arts degree......

Why would you admit that?
STEM fields or bust!

originally posted by: Whoisjohngalt

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: DerBeobachter

originally posted by: projectvxn
The best thing about being an American is that anyone can be one no matter where you're from.

We can be proud of that.

Yeah, more than ever since the Trump-"U"SA.

You need to mark sarcastic comments with a sarcasm sign, some people don´t get it otherwise.

fk u hitler

.....democrats fought to keep slavery and also created the kkk.....

"BUT THEN THE PARTIES SWITCHED AND NOW WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS!!!!!1!" -Democrats anytime someone mentions this.

No where in history nor in the library does it say that democrats and republicans switched roles. Never happened, the democratic party has zero integrity and responsibility. Please, go to a library (not google) copy the history book pages that talk about this and how the roles have switched. Please, go find it and show me, put your money where your mouth is.

originally posted by: TDawg61
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How would you know my age? You a stalker old man? I would bet that you are horribly mistaken on my age. Why does your liberal arts degree matter anyways, i dont really care, do you?

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Whoisjohngalt

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: DerBeobachter

originally posted by: projectvxn
The best thing about being an American is that anyone can be one no matter where you're from.

We can be proud of that.

Yeah, more than ever since the Trump-"U"SA.

You need to mark sarcastic comments with a sarcasm sign, some people don´t get it otherwise.

fk u hitler

.....democrats fought to keep slavery and also created the kkk.....

"BUT THEN THE PARTIES SWITCHED AND NOW WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS!!!!!1!" -Democrats anytime someone mentions this.

No where in history nor in the library does it say that democrats and republicans switched roles. Never happened, the democratic party has zero integrity and responsibility. Please, go to a library (not google) copy the history book pages that talk about this and how the roles have switched. Please, go find it and show me, put your money where your mouth is.

I will NOT put my money where my mouth is. Thats gross. And also i have no money.
Im not saying its true. I am saying that somehow, that is an idea common among democrat that I have heard multiple times in conversation.

originally posted by: Whoisjohngalt

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: Whoisjohngalt

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: DerBeobachter

originally posted by: projectvxn
The best thing about being an American is that anyone can be one no matter where you're from.

We can be proud of that.

Yeah, more than ever since the Trump-"U"SA.

You need to mark sarcastic comments with a sarcasm sign, some people don´t get it otherwise.

fk u hitler

.....democrats fought to keep slavery and also created the kkk.....

"BUT THEN THE PARTIES SWITCHED AND NOW WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS!!!!!1!" -Democrats anytime someone mentions this.

No where in history nor in the library does it say that democrats and republicans switched roles. Never happened, the democratic party has zero integrity and responsibility. Please, go to a library (not google) copy the history book pages that talk about this and how the roles have switched. Please, go find it and show me, put your money where your mouth is.

I will NOT put my money where my mouth is. Thats gross. And also i have no money.
Im not saying its true. I am saying that somehow, that is an idea common among democrat that I have heard multiple times in conversation.

Ive heard it to, its just an excuse to justify their nazism and project their image on to everyone else thats against their own views.

originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: Whoisjohngalt

originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: xBWOMPx

originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: DerBeobachter

originally posted by: projectvxn
The best thing about being an American is that anyone can be one no matter where you're from.

We can be proud of that.

Yeah, more than ever since the Trump-"U"SA.

You need to mark sarcastic comments with a sarcasm sign, some people don´t get it otherwise.

fk u hitler

You do know hitler was the national socialist party, democrats fought to keep slavery and also created the kkk. Among many others... just saying before you go name calling you better fact check
MAGA

......I had a liberal arts degree......

Why would you admit that?
STEM fields or bust!

Yes im ashamed I have an education.Twat.

You sound very bitter, you need a hug, love, maybe even a puppy or another degree perhaps, what do you fancy?