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Why Does The Democratic Party Have So Many Violent and UnCivil People.

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posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 06:35 AM
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originally posted by: Harpua
I could only get a couple pages in to this thread before I needed to make some comments and ask some questions:

So white supremacy / the kkk is a liberal /democrat ideology? Thats what some of you on ATS believe?

So by this measure, Obama was the king of the white supremacists.

I don't know what you guys are drinking, but I don't want any.

Lincoln was a republican fighting against the confederate who essentially were below the Mason Dixon line in the south. The south has clung to their pride and said things like "the south will rise again"... yet for the last several decades, this white southern pride hasn't been voting democrat, they have been voting republican.

When black democrats want to tear down civil war statues that memorialize confederate soldiers, its republicans that want to stop them. When Obama got elected and people in the south hung and burned effigies of him, these were republicans. Is it the democrats who are talking smack against black lives matter? Is Milo Yianopolis a democrat? NO THESE ARE REPUBLICANS.

The white supremacist movement and the civil war were indeed started by the democratic party, but that all switched with the civil rights movement in 1964. The KKK and the deep south started voting republican from then to this day.

I think that some of the republicans on this site are in denial of more recent events than Lincoln. I would have supported the republicans under Lincoln... but as much as I dislike LBJ and wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him, I would have supported the civil rights movement.

I'm not sure I can say the same for todays republicans.



I quote trading after your first two paragraphs too.

It's factual history that the democrats were the KKK. Ever hear of Larry Bryd? Thug tactics to control the population and political power at state.




posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 06:41 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: [post=23531066]Brywilson2[/]

Thank-you. But all humans feel entitled to something, don't we? Be it an entitlement, or freedom to choose.


Not if you're an indoctrinated communist.
edit on 29-6-2018 by UnifiedSerenity because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 06:46 AM
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originally posted by: diggindirt

originally posted by: yorkshirelad
a reply to: carewemust
Yawn yawn fricking yawn.

The number of "evil socialists", "evil democrats", "evil liberals" on ATS these days is boring.

Want to know why western civilisation is going down the pan

STUPID IGNORANT THREADS LIKE THIS.

So consumed with goddam hatred you fail to see the problems staring you in the face.

Everything is the fault of "someone else". Well NO most problems are caused by ignorance of the person you face in a mirror.

pathetic.......read a history book, research the truth, that used to be the aim of ATS.

(FYI I from the UK and don't give a flying F for money driven US politics ON BOTH SIDES except I can see a bullying conman in charge. NB NOT hatred just sheer exasperation that you can't see Trump for who he is. The most amazing thing is he even stated he could con you lot !!!! and you still defend him......DUH!)


I've not seen a better example of the extreme form of Trump derangement syndrome than the above quote.

I am no Trumpster. I'm trying to walk down the middle of the road, keeping my options to jump to one side or the other when I can find agreement. In fact, I'm in the same position I've been in for the past 30 years, walking down the middle and trying to dodge the fire from both sides. I didn't vote for any of these mutts and I really saw nothing in their personality to like and plenty to dislike.

Now don't get me wrong, there is plenty of Crooked Hillary derangement on the right. I swear there are people who can attain no happiness until they've mentioned her name in at least half a dozen threads.

So, sir, if your last paragraph is true and you truly don't care about US politics, I would suggest you put all these hours you are spending with Donald Trump living in your head and the hate roiling in your mind to more some positive pursuit about which you do care.


No, sir, western civilization isn't going to be crashed by a thread on the internet. Maybe it's time to step back and take a walk and maybe a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you are spending hours typing things about which you claim not to care. Bless your heart.


As the same Middle of the road guy voting people not party's I would agree with all but one idea.

HRC is actually a criminal. DJT may be, one but she sure plays the part on TV.


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posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 06:47 AM
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a reply to: UnifiedSerenity

Who hasnt he played dor the boston celtics. However i dont think he had anything to do with the KKK. Im pretty sure he would have ended up dead in the locker room if he had.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 06:54 AM
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a reply to: UnifiedSerenity

It's factual history that both parties were full of slavers and racist scumbags.


Soon, those in Nova Scotia would become the hosts of African slaves who escaped plantations in the South to also fight for, or assist, the British. The story is an intriguing one and British historian Simon Schama’s recent book “Rough Crossings: Britain, the Slaves and the American Revolution” (2006) describes it all. But Schama importantly infers that the American Revolution itself was likely fought or was ultimately won to preserve slavery.

Was the American Revolution Fought to Save Slavery?

No idea what you guys are drinking, but I don't want any as well.
You guys can't pull a slice of bread from the plate with talkingpoints like that in threads like this.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 06:57 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: UnifiedSerenity

Who hasnt he played dor the boston celtics. However i dont think he had anything to do with the KKK. Im pretty sure he would have ended up dead in the locker room if he had.


I don't think they hate people much in Indiana, from my experience with people from there. SO NO, Bird is not a racist. Some KKK types had to have loved him if they were true to their KKK upbringing but they probably really hated him for playing with "N's" and making them rich.

Those KKK lovers would probably call them "uppity" and be offended by their successes. On top of that, they DO NOT go to Church and seek to learn to love their neighbors at all! Any preacher/pastor/minister/priest not teaching love and forgiveness are not sharing the Gospel. For those who would do so, please don't blame the Christians for the KKK who hate others.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 06:59 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: UnifiedSerenity

Who hasnt he played dor the boston celtics. However i dont think he had anything to do with the KKK. Im pretty sure he would have ended up dead in the locker room if he had.


My bad, I always do that with that Senator, LOL. I do actually own a signed home jersey of his.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 07:01 AM
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originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: UnifiedSerenity

Who hasnt he played dor the boston celtics. However i dont think he had anything to do with the KKK. Im pretty sure he would have ended up dead in the locker room if he had.


I don't think they hate people much in Indiana, from my experience with people from there. SO NO, Bird is not a racist. Some KKK types had to have loved him if they were true to their KKK upbringing but they probably really hated him for playing with "N's" and making them rich.

Those KKK lovers would probably call them "uppity" and be offended by their successes. On top of that, they DO NOT go to Church and seek to learn to love their neighbors at all! Any preacher/pastor/minister/priest not teaching love and forgiveness are not sharing the Gospel. For those who would do so, please don't blame the Christians for the KKK who hate others.


I was trying to be funny guess i failed miserably.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 07:02 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: UnifiedSerenity

It's factual history that both parties were full of slavers and racist scumbags.


Oh yes, the Republicans were such the party of slavery, not.
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posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 07:40 AM
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originally posted by: UnifiedSerenity

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: UnifiedSerenity

It's factual history that both parties were full of slavers and racist scumbags.


Oh yes, the Republicans were such the party of slavery, not.


This is such an old saw. Southerners supported slavery; some of them were Democrats.

The Constitution supported slavery. Do you want to get rid of that as well?



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 07:51 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I'd rather get rid of wage slavery or human trafficking, but what the heck do I know anyway. A faint reminscent of the old days, a few pointed fingers at the Dems, and the day has some structure again!





posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 08:03 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Gryphon66

I'd rather get rid of wage slavery or human trafficking, but what the heck do I know anyway. A faint reminscent of the old days, a few pointed fingers at the Dems, and the day has some structure again!




What the heck do any of us know? LOL.

I'm glad to acknowledge, as an American, that we knowingly allowed slavery and even incorporated it into the Constitution. We can distribute that resulting guilt as we wish to match our political beliefs, but the fact remains.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:54 AM
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originally posted by: Ansuzrune
a reply to: Wayfarer
That may be an overly generalized statement but one I feel can be generalized is that they lack critical thinking skills. They respond to journalistic emotional manipulation. They except the term NAZI for nationalists that love the Constitution. There is a big difference between a nationalist and a nationalist socialist. To differentiate that requires some critical thinking skills and knowledge rather than react to mass media hypnotization.



You mean you feel it can be generalized based off your opinion alone and no other evidence but that which anecdotally suits you?



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: TheGOAT

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: TheGOAT
Because like Trump says about Maxine Waters, they are very low IQ.


It takes an especially modest intelligence to make a genuine statement like that about an aggregate group of people.


No it doesn't. Just look in the mirror. Let's continue:

Democrats:

Burn Cities Down
Call to threaten others
Show their Vaginas (weirdos) Go look that one up
No borders
Call to Disband Ice
Call for assassination of the President (dep)
Throw hateful terms around like it's nothing
Hold the head of the president up
Call to have trumps son raped

You're all sickos and everyone can see it now.


Posting this list is like huffing ones own farts, the only one really get a kick out of it is you. This list is asinine and evidence of an extremely warped and hyperbolic worldview devoid of any understanding other than 'not my tribe, BAD!'.

I can come up with an equally silly list about Republican's, but whats the point? I don't endeavor to work to hate my fellows, but rather understand them (which is why I, a Liberal Democrat, choose to engage on a forum that is overwhelming conservative). If you genuinely think you are sitting on the side of pure good/righteousness then you are sorely deluded.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: UnifiedSerenity

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: [post=23531066]Brywilson2[/]

Thank-you. But all humans feel entitled to something, don't we? Be it an entitlement, or freedom to choose.


Not if you're an indoctrinated communist.


I think one won the Congressional election in NYC this week. She's waaaaay out there. Her district must be really oppressed under "regular" Democrats.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 10:33 AM
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Why dont we all just do whats right in this country?
The right provokes the left with hitlerian policy making because they are corrupt too. Why dont we stop the drug wars. House veterens. Strict laws on police violence. And protect social security. Those are my bullet points politicaly. The right infuriates me because of bible thumping follow the leader attitudes.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: anotherside
Why dont we all just do whats right in this country?
The right provokes the left with hitlerian policy making because they are corrupt too. Why dont we stop the drug wars. House veterens. Strict laws on police violence. And protect social security. Those are my bullet points politicaly. The right infuriates me because of bible thumping follow the leader attitudes.


Because that would reduce the number of jackass threads that have no depth and that would mean less stars for about 5 people.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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The Op has asked why does the Democratic party have so many violent and Uncivil people. That is the question that is asked, and looked at the incidents that over the past 2 years, and that they found a list of 10 that has occurred during the first 6 months of 2017.

After looking at that list, it is a list of those making a statement, no action followed such, but it is a list of speech, and that is par for the nature of politics. The wining move is to take note, and let it go, rather than pursue and make an issue out of it. If we believe in the rule of law and the Constitution of the USA, then that is what should happen. How is what all doing stuff to Trump, any different than say depicting the hanging of Obama, the attacking of Obama’s family, his wife and children? How is it any different than ignoring the rule of law, and making false narratives about people or out right spreading of lies about a person or a location?

It goes both ways, the Republicans are just as guilty as the Democrats and both are acting in an uncivil manner. And when one considers that the sitting President, his campaign started with uncivil rhetoric, and we saw how bad it got in the run up to the primaries and then after that, from both sides. And even now, we see the same coming out of politicians even now, and the sheer hypocrisy on both sides when it comes to issue. Take the Republicans, and I bring this up cause the op is focusing on the Democrats, here is a good example of that hypocrisy that exists now within its party: Candidates, who are white nationalist, who are running under the Republican banner, some say they hate Jews and that such need to be removed from the country, yet the main line party, is in support of the country a Israel, a country that is run by and the majority of its population happens to be Jewish. See the problem, they support the country, but hate people who happen to be.

Take Obama, for example when he announced he would meet with any world leader to sit and talk, to open up dialogues, even the enemies and dictators, to work out the problems and move on from there. The right tore him up on that, how dare he, and that it was a big mistake, that there needed to be conditions. Yet when Trump met with the leader of North Korea, there were no conditions there, and the man was heralded as a hero, even though all evidence shows that the man was played.

And this on the calling for the blood on the streets, how is that any different than say the calls for a civil war, all cause the Republicans disagree with a rule or a court decision? I have heard and seen where there have been threats of violence, and blood will run, if Trump is removed from office, ignoring the laws and rules that would govern such.

Both sides are guilty of this, and the only reason why the Democrats are now getting into the news doing such, is that it was not as common as it is now.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: sdcigarpig

Magnificent. Its not a D or R party issue, its a people issue (and this isn't unique to any 1 party). My only regret is I have but 1 star to give.



posted on Jun, 29 2018 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: Wayfarer

I would hazard to say there are really only two basic kinds of people: those who want to live and let live and those who desire control over others.

Simplistic but true.



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