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Trump threatens Harley-Davidson with taxes ‘like never before’ and eventual collapse

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posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: Nyiah

Because Mr. Trump sees this announcment not as a business decision but as an attack on him.

This is what he does when he feels that people attack him or his actions.

We can argue about it, have different opinions about it, but it's PRIME USDA TRUMP all the way.




posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:01 PM
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HD announced plans to shut down their KC plant months ago. People were bitching then about how they were moving those jobs to Thailand.

Now HD wants to blame the Tariffs. You guys are being manipulated to feel outrage it is so pathetic..



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: eNumbra

Harley doesn't sell bikes. They sell loans!

www.myhdfs.com...



originally posted by: eNumbra
Harleys are overpriced, image-centric bikes anyway.


Right on, so now we're going to smear any American company that starts losing money because of failed policy?

So Harley Davidson is bad. Got it.

Chevy is bad, right? Because they're going to Mexico.

Can we call any American companies good right now, so we know they're good later, when they become affected?

Who's the next evil company? Ford? Budweiser? What if Budweiser says they're gonna start canning all their aluminum elsewhere?



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:03 PM
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Just keep drinking the medias koolaide..



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: proximo




he is looking out for American workers and telling Harley he will not allow them to economically benefit by moving


How many of his or his families products are made in the USA? Just answer that honestly please. Pretty sure it is a single word answer.

Can you do that?



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Trump meddles in almost every aspect of life now it seems, and when someone throws mud in his eye he gets angry.

Hmm what do you call someone who wants to micromanage every aspect of what they can potentially control, gets angry when things don't go their way, and makes knee jerk reactions?

Sounds like a bad owner or manager of a company to me, a little dictator like if you ask me.

Trump is so triggered he he makes a tweet about moving the Kansas plant to Thailand, WRONG fake news, the Kansas plant was to be shut down and jobs moved to somewhere else in the states and some of it's production in Thailand. And move some of it's production else where, which obviously is somewhere in the EU.
They are going to sell American made bikes in America, and other places in the world made bikes to the rest of the world, because of the tariffs. It's a smart business plan for Harley, guess Trump didn't realize that capitalism isn't bound to his iron fist.
edit on 26-6-2018 by strongfp because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: notsure1
HD announced plans to shut down their KC plant months ago. People were bitching then about how they were moving those jobs to Thailand.

Now HD wants to blame the Tariffs. You guys are being manipulated to feel outrage it is so pathetic..




HD will make their own bed and will have to sleep in it. President Trump knows what is probably going to happen when they make this move. He's right about the Aura. They may see a slight uptick initially, but the HD thrill is gone...or will be.



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Is there a difference between a Harley from Japan and one from Korea ? ...I mean besides the price ? ...



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: Kharron

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: eNumbra

Harley doesn't sell bikes. They sell loans!

www.myhdfs.com...



originally posted by: eNumbra
Harleys are overpriced, image-centric bikes anyway.


Right on, so now we're going to smear any American company that starts losing money because of failed policy?

So Harley Davidson is bad. Got it.

Chevy is bad, right? Because they're going to Mexico.

Can we call any American companies good right now, so we know they're good later, when they become affected?

Who's the next evil company? Ford? Budweiser? What if Budweiser says they're gonna start canning all their aluminum elsewhere?


Many believe if you're on the fast track to fail, you should simply fail and fade from existence, you couldn't hack it as a company and got what was coming to you, either bad management or fading usefulness.

Unless you're an automotive company and then the government should bail you out.
edit on 6/26/2018 by Nyiah because: Typo kind of day, I see.



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan




When they import their bikes again, there will be import duties. That is the taxes that he seems to be referring to.


They are not going to import those bikes back to the US. It is clearly a threat from our childish president that if HD moves some mfg. overseas he will personally tax them like never before.

It's OK all his crap is made overseas though right? Your'e good with right?



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: eNumbra
Harleys are overpriced, image-centric bikes anyway.

At this point nothing surprises me and I don’t care.


HD has always been a poor run, poor performing company. Even with great sales they still suck. They have a long history of pushing tariffs and filing Chapter 13, so this is basically normal for them.



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: burdman30ott6


That wasn't a threat, nor was it a whine.


No no, I'm pretty sure it was.

Let me ask again. Why did he feel the need to make a threat and whine if Harley is set to lose out badly and publicly from this move as you claim? Doesn't seem logical you'd need to get all uptight does it? Which is exactly what the Don is doing.... as with many of his tweets.



He is imposing tarrifs on Vehicles. If they leave thier customer base in the US will be negatively impacted and the Terrifs will make it impossible for them to compete in the US market.

Nothing he said was a threat. He told the truth.
edit on 26-6-2018 by Isurrender73 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Gryphon66

Hmm what do you call someone who wants to micromanage every aspect of what they can potentially control, gets angry when things don't go their way, and makes knee jerk reactions?

Sounds like a bad owner or manager of a company to me, a little dictator like if you ask me.


Well, I'd call that a narcissist, a dictator is a lot heavier than that.


But one could argue that all dictators are narcissists.



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:17 PM
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Hmmmm From May, 2017.


This plant will help the company take advantage of the tax breaks due to the trade arrangement among members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nation (ASEAN). Moreover, Thailand’s 60% motorcycle import tax will also be exempted. The location of the facility will make it more competitive for the company to target the ASEAN region and China. Per a Harley-Davidson spokesperson, the increased access and affordability of customers in the region will help in overall growth of the company. This comes amid the company facing slow demand in the U.S. (its primary market) due to changing demographics.


And HD threatening to leave Milwaukee in 2010.

All in all, HD has had a problem selling bikes here, compared to in the UK. For them to claim the tariffs are forcing their hand is purely political.



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: Kharron

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: eNumbra

Harley doesn't sell bikes. They sell loans!

www.myhdfs.com...



originally posted by: eNumbra
Harleys are overpriced, image-centric bikes anyway.


Right on, so now we're going to smear any American company that starts losing money because of failed policy?

So Harley Davidson is bad. Got it.

Chevy is bad, right? Because they're going to Mexico.

Can we call any American companies good right now, so we know they're good later, when they become affected?

Who's the next evil company? Ford? Budweiser? What if Budweiser says they're gonna start canning all their aluminum elsewhere?


Unless you're an automotive company and then the government should bail you out.


Or big steel apparently. The government just put huge tariffs on all American steel industry, all small businesses that everyone loves during the campaign, and then his Department of Commerce exempted the big 7 from the tariffs, essentially killing the small business in favor of the too big to fails. Cronyism.



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

It's subjective.

There are folks who will still cling to the HD culture without hesitation. Others have been calling out their American made statements false for years.

Same with the big 3.

Also, yes same with beer. Coffee. Food.
edit on 26-6-2018 by JinMI because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Now the President threatens a stand out American business for making a business decision ... shocking.

edit on 26-6-2018 by gortex because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:24 PM
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..... hold on, don't be getting all riled up between your-selves !
in a Forest, if Donald were to ...

Anyhow, the overriding idea in the Op has a very valid - neutral - point:
Is it 'ok' for the leader of a country, to try to strong arm a private company ?

Trump seems to think yes



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:28 PM
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Funny how America keeps moving more vehicles production overseas and the oversea vehicles keep moving to America to build here.

I wonder what Indian and Victory Motorcycle companies are saying...



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero
Funny how America keeps moving more vehicles production overseas and the oversea vehicles keep moving to America to build here.

I wonder what Indian and Victory Motorcycle companies are saying...



There is no Victory any more, they lost the war to Harley Davidson and started shutting down last year.



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