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posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: vinifalou

I think you are missing the point, tallying up the rights and wrongs will achieve nothing.

We need to understand that we are perfect and that all the problems in the world are caused by the people who don't agree with us.




posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: vinifalou




Enlighten me on the solutions.

Only one solution , Revolution.
Until the farm animals break out of the paddock the abusive relationship between us and them will remain unchanged , we give them the power.

When it comes to the general population there really is no left or right , it's a construct to keep us blinded , divide and conquer is the name of their game.



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 11:44 AM
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So back to my original statement, are you listening to the majority of America?


Who won the popular vote again? But "illegals"! Right?

Like I've said a thousand times, I didn't have a dog in the last race and I won't have one in the next one either. Whoever is in office will toe the line and I choose not to buy into it. You can choose to continue believing in a lie though, no skin off my back.



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: CaptSplatter

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: CaptSplatter

Why should I care about Hillary again?


You shouldn't care about her personally....I know I sure as hell don't. However you should be concerned about her being the best the Dems could put forward. I can promise you if you ever had a shot at defeating Trump in 2020 it won't her.

So back to my original statement, are you listening to the majority of America? Apparently you didn't listen two years ago when American's showed you and everyone else they wanted change...


Are you listening now....It's a legit question



Your asking a question based on a assumption that he voted for Hillary. I am 99% sure that he did not. And what majority are you speaking of? The majority or your district I assume.



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 11:46 AM
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no skin off my back.


Yet here you are wasting your energy in these threads.
🙄



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: vinifalou

People don't want some solutions because of the Americanised domestication of "Government is good" that happens

everyone wants reforms, people call Socialism, Communism, Anarchy "Utopias" but what do you think Representative Governments are? Republics? Capitalism?

this illusion that the people will vote in the best person to "represent the masses" when in the History of so-called "America" has that happened? giving up your unique, your individual liberation to be controlled by the state, Governments, "Rules" created by dead people that don't represent you, forced Morals and Ethics, controlled by this spooky idea that paper has "inherent Value", that objects have value, that anything has inherent "value" to it

civilisation, societies, domestication,

there are no solutions in reforms



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: Muninn
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1




no skin off my back.


Yet here you are wasting your energy in these threads.
🙄


What is wrong with being a armchair warrior?
Now you are just being s hypocrite. Like how I turned that around.



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: Muninn

Same to you my friend. What do you think you accomplish on ATS more than I?



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 11:55 AM
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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
a reply to: vinifalou

I think you are missing the point, tallying up the rights and wrongs will achieve nothing.

We need to understand that we are perfect and that all the problems in the world are caused by the people who don't agree with us.


What?

Who are the "us" you're referring?



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 11:55 AM
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a reply to: gortex

all we have to do is collectively decide to stop paying taxes and demand a constitutional convention, won't work though I know to many people think we need government



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 11:58 AM
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all we have to do is collectively decide to stop paying taxes and demand a constitutional convention,

Exactly , revolution doesn't have to be through the barrel of a gun we as populations hold more power than that.



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

Personally I don't agree with you but I respect your opinion.

I won't say that revolution is the key to everything. But it worked a few times in history, that's true.

I'm more interested in democratic *yea* solutions to the problems the U.S. is facing and have faced for this 8+ years.



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: vinifalou

Good image in the OP, I think you answered your own question. Trump is an illusion of choice, just like any other *insert name or political affiliation*.



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 12:01 PM
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It's kinda funny that some members bash the Trump government 24/7 yet when they're asked to propose a better solution they come with offenses, whataboutism, etc.

Makes me wonder if they're really worried about solutions or just their political view.

That's why the country is a mess.




posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

There's no mention to Trump in the image.

Political sides are the same and it's only worth to divide we the people.

Trump is doing a much better job than Obama did, how's that an "illusion of choice"?

And if you disagree with me, I ask you to propose better solutions than he is.

That was the point after all, before the left started throwing some free rage at me




posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 12:06 PM
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a reply to: vinifalou

You asked a honest question and would have received an honest answer. But there is a major problem that you clearly overlooked. If you ever want a true answer then do not start the question in a way that attacks another person of a different affiliation.
I am sure if you decide to ask the question again in a kind manner than yes I would be more that happy to answer as I am sure others would too.
So try again. Swallow that pride and just do it. You will get mad respect from me and I am sure from many others.
I have done it on here and you can too,



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 12:06 PM
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That's why the country is a mess.

Your country is in a mess because you're all to busy bitching at one and other to see the wood for the trees.
Political opinions are not the problem.



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: vinifalou

Here's one solution to our problems: cut the military budget in half and invest that extra money into education and healthcare. We spend more on our military than the next 7 countries combined and every one of those countries is our ally. We would STILL be the biggest military in the world BY FAR (nearly $100 billion) if we did that.

But then again, most people don't want real solutions.
edit on 6/26/2018 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: vinifalou

Here's one solution to our problems: cut the military budget in half and invest that extra money into education and healthcare. We spend more on our military than the next 7 countries combined and every one of those countries is our ally.

But then again, most people don't want real solutions.


LOL define Ally



posted on Jun, 26 2018 @ 12:10 PM
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I mentioned this to TrueBrit earlier....

...since Trump was elected, any/all prior narratives died. So the Europe/Australia that clammored for US citizens to "do something" about our whacked out government, once the US "did something", hate that worse than what was done before. Despite the fact that the change was asked for because of actual policy and action.

Meanwhile in the US, people who aren't partisan have become so. Trump sliced off a chunk of the DNC for himself, while at the same time slicing off a chunk of the GOP to push away. So his piece of the voter pie is the size as the former GOP....but its made up of a little of both parties, watering each party down in the process.

For all intents and purposes both parties are dead. The GOP couldn't even manage to resist Trump along with the rest of government, and has no other options for any kind of leader to even replace the VP. Meanwhile...jesus, the DNC and that hot mess.



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