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originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: introvert
It does not make you a moral or ethical person. It makes you feel morally and ethically good, which is where the posted I was responding to was coming from. The emotional aspect.
It does make you a moral and ethical person in that instance. When you do something for someone, without expecting anything in return. That is the very definition of morality. Ethics may be a different story, since they do not mean the exact same thing.
He tipped them for a job they had done. By definition, he got something in return.
originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: notsure1
Obviously you have never worked your ass off on a job then got stiffed by some ass hole with no morals or ethics
Oh boy, I bet there are some companies/contractors that have been stiffed by dear leader, I bet they could tell you all about it..just sayin.
As far as tipping goes, if you get good service..you tip..unless you are a jerk.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Sublimecraft
The plight of the human soul, an understanding that it is equally important and soothing for the soul to give than to receive. When I say give, I mean an unrestricted desire to contribute by any means necessary, whether that be by labour, support, money, protection, accommodation. Some folks have these traits in abundance, others do not.
Ok. And how did you come to the conclusion that the OP was that sort of person based on his OP?
In fact, what the OP did say may contradict what you are trying to push:
It wasn't a lot but I thought it was decent. I guess I am somewhat conditioned as I grew up working on my Grandparents farms picking fruit and veggies.
Sounds like it may have been out of sympathy, not out of a desire to give and not receive.
originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: 3n19m470
No, you misunderstand..I should of been clearer(probably should not of posted but couldn't resist replying to notsure 1 about getting hosed). I'm referring to jobs where a tip is customary, construction jobs don't really fall in that category, I think it's a nice thing the OP did..for what it's worth.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: introvert
It does not make you a moral or ethical person. It makes you feel morally and ethically good, which is where the posted I was responding to was coming from. The emotional aspect.
It does make you a moral and ethical person in that instance. When you do something for someone, without expecting anything in return. That is the very definition of morality. Ethics may be a different story, since they do not mean the exact same thing.
He tipped them for a job they had done. By definition, he got something in return.
Compared to the person who does Not tip their waitress? Yes, they are more ethical and moral, because they know these families depend on tips. In this economy, every last bit helps.
He was only required to pay them the bill owed. By giving them an extra tip, which people do because they know that money will help this person to do something they were not able to do before they received that Extra, Unexpected money, was in fact very generous and indicative of a good sense of morals and ethics.
So, perhaps you were correct in saying that, technically, these are not the most accurate words to describe his situation.
Oh My... Now showing Sympathy is not even considered moral?
And if you give out of sympathy, it's not the same as "just giving"?
The effort you have put into trying to downplay this kind, selfless act, is nothing less than disgusting. You want to find the source of problems and division in the country? It's right here. In your posts.
Next you will explain how he was actually just being greedy and selfish, and in fact it was racist to assume those people needed help. There is no satisfying you people.
I mean, I understand it must be hard for you to realize basically your entire life was wasted promoting Cultural Marxism, a total poison to the human mind and the society in which it lives. I get that. But, at least be man enough to admit you made a mistake. Don't go around being a little poor sport, bickering just to waste others timex and attempt to drag them down to Your level of unhappiness...
originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: notsure1
Obviously you have never worked your ass off on a job then got stiffed by some ass hole with no morals or ethics
Oh boy, I bet there are some companies/contractors that have been stiffed by dear leader, I bet they could tell you all about it..just sayin.
As far as tipping goes, if you get good service..you tip..unless you are a jerk.
If you are a bitter and unhappy person. You will live a bitter and unhappy life.