What is it that you really want? (immigration)

I keep getting more confused by the day, and I'm not sure it's age creeping up with me. I see a huge uproar about kids being removed from their parents at the border. It's a big, loud uproar and it was really important. Really. So Trump asks congress to write a law and pass it that would fix this permanently. Congress fails. So Trump writes and EO to do the job. (Here is where the confusion starts)

Is this not what everyone was asking for? They all were disgusted by the thought of separating families. So Trump stopped that dead in it's tracks. (And I give zero #s about who started it, for all intents and purposes, it was handled with the EO.) But there is still anger, resentment, frustration. And no clear understanding of why.

What is it you want? I ask this in all sincerity. You don't like Trump, I get it. You are so afraid of Trump, you can't let a second go by without thinking of saying something about him, I get it. But at this point, I think it's time to step back and view this from an outside perceptive. You look like a lunatic. You have no clear message, and you don't seem to understand any of this, but all you know is you are angry.

Please, tell everyone what you want done, so the rest of us can understand what you are after here.

They want to be Anti Trump.
Period.

I'll just copy my reply from another thread. It works here just as well.

So basically, the Dems don't want the children seperated, so they whine and get what they want.
Now, the families will be kept together and housed at a military base....and the Dems whine.
So the takeaway is, the Dems don't get what they want, they whine.
Dems actually get what they want, They Whine.
Anyone else see a pattern here?

Democrats don’t care about these people except for how they can be used to fuel their hate of the President. If it were about the people it would have been over by now. There is no pleasing some people so better to just ignore them.

originally posted by: network dude

Please, tell everyone what you want done, so the rest of us can understand what you are after here.

Don't go that far.

You're trying to reason with madness. Madness will only surround you.

a reply to: DAVID64

You guys should build a wall so they just plain can’t get there....


🤔

a reply to: network dude


Brother, I thought you were smarter than this....

What they want...open borders, no limitations. Well, strike that, they will not want hard working, old school moral value minded people coming to this country. But otherwise, let 'em all in!

a reply to: network dude

I'm not sure what they want, but I sure as hell know what they need.


A deep look into the mirror.


And maybe a hug, or something.

a reply to: network dude

They don't care about you
They don't care about the children
They don't care about the dreamers
They only want votes!
Trump is working on America and the democrats are fighting and screaming to tear it apart.

originally posted by: theatreboy
a reply to: network dude


Brother, I thought you were smarter than this....

What they want...open borders, no limitations. Well, strike that, they will not want hard working, old school moral value minded people coming to this country. But otherwise, let 'em all in!

I just want to hear it, and have them see each other say it.

I think you’re all missing their (Democrats) desire. Fully open borders and an exponentional expanding voting base (because they are losing American citizens from their party by the truckloads).

They know the black population is wising up to how the Democratic Party has been using them and intentionally preventing them from improving their circumstance.

So now they see the illegal population as their next best hope. Why do you think they press so hard to prevent voter ID when it would be easy to provide those that deserve such an ID (actual citizens) one at no cost to the citizen.

The screaming about the kids is a red herring. The Democrats couldn’t care less about the kids. If they did, why haven’t they been screaming long before about the 10k or so that arrived as unaccompanied minor illegal immigrants and are currently in detention centers?

These are the dying throes of a political party facing extinction.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: DAVID64

You guys should build a wall so they just plain can’t get there....


🤔

You have become a prolific anti-Trump poster here, with lots and lots of opinions. What do you think the issue here is? Surely you have a fresh perspective from your vantage point.

originally posted by: network dude
Please, tell everyone what you want done, so the rest of us can understand what you are after here.

obviously, another thread beholding Trump to god-status , and making accusations on 'dems' and instilling more subliminal division....per the first seven replies

a reply to: network dude

Congress didn't fail. They haven't voted on it yet.
Now he's telling them not to vote on it because they need immigration issues to win in November.

I think it's time to step back and view this from an outside perceptive.

Please, tell everyone what you want done, so the rest of us can understand what you are after here.

As an outsider and an outside perceptive (not even from the USA but you asked!) :

Maybe a good old fashioned kick up the arse to both whingy snotty bitchy childish immature partisan sides of your country... (that's just my opinion and tough if it hurts some people here...)

You folks are becoming the laughing stock of the rest of the planet due to the way you are dividing yourselves...

Just put up that bloody wall out of tax payers money once and for all (for cripes sake, that didn't stop you tax payers spending bazillions on wars...!) and then get back to trying to make your divided country great once more...

Your country... the so called "UNITED" states of America is no longer united but extremely divided...

Grow up and get a pair of man pants as you folks so like to say.

Kindest respects

Lags

a reply to: network dude

Anti trump?

Nonsense.

Anti-trump supporter, definitely.

I don't care to be honest.

And you don't either.

originally posted by: network dude
I keep getting more confused by the day, and I'm not sure it's age creeping up with me. I see a huge uproar about kids being removed from their parents at the border. It's a big, loud uproar and it was really important. Really. So Trump asks congress to write a law and pass it that would fix this permanently. Congress fails. So Trump writes and EO to do the job. (Here is where the confusion starts)

Is this not what everyone was asking for? They all were disgusted by the thought of separating families. So Trump stopped that dead in it's tracks. (And I give zero #s about who started it, for all intents and purposes, it was handled with the EO.) But there is still anger, resentment, frustration. And no clear understanding of why.

What is it you want? I ask this in all sincerity. You don't like Trump, I get it. You are so afraid of Trump, you can't let a second go by without thinking of saying something about him, I get it. But at this point, I think it's time to step back and view this from an outside perceptive. You look like a lunatic. You have no clear message, and you don't seem to understand any of this, but all you know is you are angry.

Please, tell everyone what you want done, so the rest of us can understand what you are after here.

Originally, they government would imprison both the parents and the children. The SJW's got upset that innocent children were being put in prison having committed no crime. So the goal was to have go free become American citizens and become anchor children for their parents when they left prison. Now Trump gave the SJW's two options: the children stay with their parents or get deported on their own.

originally posted by: odzeandennz

originally posted by: network dude
Please, tell everyone what you want done, so the rest of us can understand what you are after here.

obviously, another thread beholding Trump to god-status , and making accusations on 'dems' and instilling more subliminal division....per the first seven replies

You don’t think if the Democrats would stop their blatant Socialist agenda, stop calling for open borders, start calling for the rule of laws, that they could advance a legitimate platform? Oh...wait. Less Republican, Less Democrat, More Constitution.

a reply to: Lagomorphe

Yeah pretty much.

More worried about kicking people out of their bakery/restaurant than anything.

a reply to: network dude

What's he going to do about reuniting the families he's already separated by his actions?
Now he says throw the court out of the picture. Just round them up and send them back over the border.
Excuse me while I try to figure out how this is different from catch and release he was so loud about criticizing.

a reply to: network dude

I'd say the majority of people on both sides of the debate want the same thing: A political issue to bash the other side with over the head.

The Left doesn't care about immigration. The Right doesn't care about immigration.

The leadership wants a divisive political issue they can use as leverage in the media and in debate, but very little gets done and it doesn't seem people really care much about the issue outside of that partisan debate. Yet the masses follow right along and play in to the entire mess.

Like exactly what you are doing with this thread. You don't want solutions either. You want something to bash Leftists and anti-Trump people with.

Good sheep doing as they have been taught to do.