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originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: DBCowboy
You're doing nothing but insuring another win for Trump in 2020.
Politics aside, Trump should not run in 2020. I don't care if he's popular or unpopular at the time. He will be 75 years old on election day and that is too old to be President in my opinion. Never mind the fact that the Boomers do not need more than their fair share of Presidential terms. Each generation is 20 years, that's 5 terms. Proper representation for each generation would therefore suggest that Clintons 2, W's 2, and Trumps 1 are their 5. Give Gen X their turn.
originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Aazadan
Kinda hard for those caught in the act to argue they weren't doing what they were caught doing, eh?
originally posted by: face23785
Just curious, did you have a problem with Bernie Sanders running? If he won, he'd have been 79 by the time his first term was up.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: face23785
Just curious, did you have a problem with Bernie Sanders running? If he won, he'd have been 79 by the time his first term was up.
Yes actually. For what it's worth I also believe Hillary Clinton (who is only 1 year younger than Trump) to also be too old. Biden was my preferred candidate until he decided not to run, and even then I wasn't willing to support him due to age (and I won't support him in 2020 either, even though I like his politics).
Something I said a lot in the early days of the general campaign was that the one silver lining I saw to this cast of characters was that all of them were so old that one term would be likely. Not just for my generational argument, but I was born in 82. Of the 5 full Presidents we've had in my lifetime, 4 had two terms and I think that's just not enough. Leaders need to change more often than that and one thing that a bunch of old folks means, is that we're probably going to get just one term.
originally posted by: Annee
I used to think this way until I became 72.
Today I feel much wiser, less idealistic, and see a bigger picture.
And I'm in better health now then when I was younger. Age requires you to be more aware of your health.
originally posted by: xuenchen
[chatter/rumors]
Trump might "travel ban" Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras !!
Smuggling and Trafficking are threats !!
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originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: face23785
Just curious, did you have a problem with Bernie Sanders running? If he won, he'd have been 79 by the time his first term was up.
Yes actually. For what it's worth I also believe Hillary Clinton (who is only 1 year younger than Trump) to also be too old. Biden was my preferred candidate until he decided not to run, and even then I wasn't willing to support him due to age (and I won't support him in 2020 either, even though I like his politics).
Something I said a lot in the early days of the general campaign was that the one silver lining I saw to this cast of characters was that all of them were so old that one term would be likely. Not just for my generational argument, but I was born in 82. Of the 5 full Presidents we've had in my lifetime, 4 had two terms and I think that's just not enough. Leaders need to change more often than that and one thing that a bunch of old folks means, is that we're probably going to get just one term.
originally posted by: face23785
What age would you say is too old to run for President then, and on what are you basing that? Is it just an arbitrary number or would you base it on some kind of medical data? The fact that we've had so many old presidents seems to indicate that old people are perfectly capable of doing the job, probably even more so now with how good medical care is these days.
If you're big on leadership changing often, guess what happens if the president dies in office?
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: face23785
What age would you say is too old to run for President then, and on what are you basing that? Is it just an arbitrary number or would you base it on some kind of medical data? The fact that we've had so many old presidents seems to indicate that old people are perfectly capable of doing the job, probably even more so now with how good medical care is these days.
I'm not sure. Not everyone ages equally. But if we're going to say you need to be 35 to run for President despite the fact that not everyone matures equally, I don't see why we can't put a maximum age on it too. I think that the starting point I would go from, is the idea that we shouldn't encourage working past retirement age, and therefore the President should be young enough that they don't go past their retirement age (maybe round up a year) during their term.
President for life has a guaranteed leadership change. That doesn't mean it's a good system.
originally posted by: RowanBean
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
a reply to: XAnarchistX
He didn't deny ordinary service, he denied a custom decoration.
The problem here is that they didn't tell them what design they wanted.
originally posted by: tinner07
What if you own the restaurant and your ex wife and her boyfriend come in? What if some known members of the local KKK came in?
What if what if what if.... You own the establishment you can refuse service yes or no? I say yes. Can they sue you? sure.
If you refuse service to a black couple thats bad. You could probably do it and expect a lawsuit.
Now what if your wife is cheating on you with a black man and they show up at your restaurant, can you refuse them?
Sure you can...
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: tinner07
What if you own the restaurant and your ex wife and her boyfriend come in? What if some known members of the local KKK came in?
What if what if what if.... You own the establishment you can refuse service yes or no? I say yes. Can they sue you? sure.
If you refuse service to a black couple thats bad. You could probably do it and expect a lawsuit.
Now what if your wife is cheating on you with a black man and they show up at your restaurant, can you refuse them?
Sure you can...
As for the baker you guys keep arguing about, It was not discrimination because the baker had a consistent policy of refusing to create cakes that used derogatory language or imagery contradictory to the bible. Even showed in court his refusal to make Halloween cakes. By the way turns out it was well known to the public as well. Meaning i don't think the gay couple just happened to walk in to the store.
originally posted by: endercreeper01
It is really not that bad if you think about it.
In the same way that it would be justified to kick out a gay or black from a restaurant, kicking Sarah Sanders out should not be though of differently.