Sarah Sanders says she was thrown out of Virginia restaurant

a reply to: IAMTAT

I'd say both. At one time or another, both have instigated or been victim of "the conspiracy".

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: loam

To take the main point of that video. If most people are incapable of coming here, and the numbers don't change. Then there's clearly no harm in letting them come here. It may not help most of the world, but it does help a few, and requires no extra effort on our part.

It harms our working poor, it harms our rich by needing higher taxes to pay for the added schools, welfare and crime, overall it harms our nation. These people tend to vote socialist too, they can't help themselves, they want to turn this place into just the place they came out of.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Gryphon66

...and the Puppet Masters?

Do we know them?

You're familiar with Matryoshka (Russian) dolls?

I've been interested in a lot of "crazy stuff" over the years. Esoterica, whatnot.

What I found in that area is that just when you think you've got the game figured out, the rules change.

I think we know OF Them. They're the Tricksters.

*yuck* ... but then that seems sooo cliche. Everything's a g-d Trickster when you're basically fumbling around in the dark.

The closest I come to having an OBJECTIVE answer TAT ... is to quote Charles Fort: "I think we are property."

Second closest is William Burroughs: "Language is a virus from outer space."

originally posted by: riiver
a reply to: IAMTAT

Exactly. The real extremes aren't part of either "side" as we see it. They're their own separate little group. And even though there appear to be two different agendas at work--such as open borders vs. uber-strict nationalism--at heart their ultimate goal is the same.

Edit: Good lord there were a lot of "there"s in that paragraph...sorry

So if the extremes are the actors...and we are their intended audience...
How do we take away their power to influence us?

Rather than applauding them...or throwing rotten tomatoes...My suggestion is that we all stop buying tickets to their show.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Aazadan

We should never have any law that cannot be enforced 100%, 100% of the time.

Agreed?

I'm a bit more pragmatic than that, I don't think that's realistic, but I do believe it's an ideal we should aspire to, at least on the 100% of the time portion. I think that judges and juries should have significant leeway in determining what percent of the maximum penalties should be applied in any given case.

If it were up to me, I would update the definition of due process to put a maximum time limit on how long one can wait for trial. If one doesn't make it to trial within that time frame, they should be declared not guilty. The goal with such a law would be to force the court system to prioritize the laws it wants to enforce, and thereby decide what it doesn't feel we should be prosecuting as a society any longer... which would give legislators guidance as to what to repeal.

You want a taste of open borders, go to california, and enjoy it.
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Gryphon66

...and the Puppet Masters?

Do we know them?

The closest I come to having an OBJECTIVE answer TAT ... is to quote Charles Fort: "I think we are property."

Second closest is William Burroughs: "Language is a virus from outer space."

Walt Kelly: "We have met the enemy...and he is us."

'They' (the fourth element) are indeed "tricksters"...but they are also us.
They masquerade and conceal themselves within the extreme Left/Right and Middle...but they attempt to control all.

Distraction and discord is their tool/weapon and they exacerbate both through their control of media and our own natural proclivity to be led, seek self-assurance and to be entertained.

While we watch their shows...they influence, control and continue to fleece us.

Fort was closest: "I think we are property."

originally posted by: Lab4Us

Shouldn’t be too hard to demonstrate the rampant fascism of the Democratic Party,

The GOP now views free-market capitalism as facism?

sees not allowing public servants the opportunity to freely move about and choose just because they disagree with policy of the administration currently in power.

Policy?

The Restaurant owner explained HER policy:
"that the restaurant has certain standards that I feel it has to uphold, such as honesty, and compassion, and cooperation."

Sanders FAILED to meet those standards.

a reply to: Xenogears

You want a taste of open borders, go to california, and enjoy it.

You should go to California and pay attention to the place names and geography. Who do you think organized the Mission System that remains the spinal cord of the state? California was part of Mexico until greedy white folks came looking for gold.

a reply to: DJW001

So we're back to the two wrongs make a right, again, are we?

Yes, those old Mexican, many of whom could trace their ancestory back to the conquistadors who, just incidentally, stole the land from the Natives, but I digress, families were treated very shabbily by the American settlers.

This excuses crossing the borders illegally how??

I don’t believe in denying service to someone with views you don’t like, but on the other hand, Sarah Sanders had it coming by supporting business establishments’ right to deny service to gays. This business turned the tables on her. It might teach her some empathy.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Tricksters, eh?

Huh... That's an interesting thought.

Oh, now you've gone and done it...I'm gonna be looking into this for the next several hours.

Tricksters.

Huh.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: DJW001

So we're back to the two wrongs make a right, again, are we?

Yes, those old Mexican, many of whom could trace their ancestory back to the conquistadors who, just incidentally, stole the land from the Natives, but I digress, families were treated very shabbily by the American settlers.

This excuses crossing the borders illegally how??

It doesn't, but I feel that a certain member needs some perspective on the situation. I suspect s/he wouldn't mind Norwegians slipping into the country without papers... they would look like their avatar.

originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: loam

To take the main point of that video. If most people are incapable of coming here, and the numbers don't change. Then there's clearly no harm in letting them come here. It may not help most of the world, but it does help a few, and requires no extra effort on our part.

It harms our working poor, it harms our rich by needing higher taxes to pay for the added schools, welfare and crime, overall it harms our nation. These people tend to vote socialist too, they can't help themselves, they want to turn this place into just the place they came out of.

Are you talking about the undocumented workers who do the jobs you can's pay gringos to do? The ones who are afraid to go to a clinic or report a crime because they are afraid to be deported? The ones who will never collect unemployment or Social Security because they are undocumented?

I know this is the Mud Pit, but we still need to stay on topic.

...and the topic is not immigration.
...or open borders......

In Facr....this is the topic:

Sarah Sanders says she was thrown out of Virginia restaurant

You are responsible for your own posts.....those who ignore that responsibility will face mod actions.


and, as always:

Do NOT reply to this post!!

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JDmOKI

Not to mention ... I wonder what will happen when Mexico gets its new president and he starts to send all his poor people north because our social safety net is their human right?

At least the guys honest about the agenda I can at least appreciate that. Mexico is held to a really low standard.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: loam

To take the main point of that video. If most people are incapable of coming here, and the numbers don't change. Then there's clearly no harm in letting them come here. It may not help most of the world, but it does help a few, and requires no extra effort on our part.

It harms our working poor, it harms our rich by needing higher taxes to pay for the added schools, welfare and crime, overall it harms our nation. These people tend to vote socialist too, they can't help themselves, they want to turn this place into just the place they came out of.

Are you talking about the undocumented workers who do the jobs you can's pay gringos to do? The ones who are afraid to go to a clinic or report a crime because they are afraid to be deported? The ones who will never collect unemployment or Social Security because they are undocumented?

The wages go up enough and there will be those that will do the work. They depress wages.

a reply to: soberbacchus

Yes, and in a free market we have a right to criticize and boycott. I just feel sorry for the Red Hens not associated with this restaurant

a reply to: Xenogears

mass migration from low iq nations.

You have made your position abundantly clear. To bring it back on topic, it is precisely this attitude that enables the administration to break families apart, and it is Sanders' defense of it that got her booted out of a restaurant. I hope it was a wake up call for her. She left the Trumposphere and discovered what real Americans feel about what is going on. She must now be aware of the Trump Curse: the closer you are to him, the more likely you will be indicted. The more you defend his actions, the less likely you will find gainful employment elsewhere. When she gets fired, her only options will be Fox and RT.