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Bloomberg: “I think we’re at the beginning of a soft civil war.”

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posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Scary prospect. But this is precisely what the revolutionary socialists who have infiltrated our Constitutional Republican government are aiming for. Infiltrators/subversives and flag-burners like Allison Hrabar (DOJ socialist) to disgraced and discharged cadet Lt. Spenser Rapone (AKA Commie Cadet) have been abusing their public positions to further their cultural war against the justice loving American right.


I am an old broad. I have been around for a while and had the scales plucked from my eyes well over twenty years ago. I have heard the warning bells. I have been accused of donning the tin foil cap, been called a conspiracy theorist, the nasty label back then, and now have advanced to being called an obtuse, xenophobic, racist, homophobic, bigot.

In the meantime I have watched more of the warnings become realities, and have watched people that may think of themselves as being intelligent, compassionate, super tolerant people, become hate filled, nasty, rude, and violent people, because they have been fed a bunch of lies, that they accept as truth without doing any investigation and without any critical thought.

I feel almost as if I am on ground level one watching internet prophecy being fulfilled. I wonder how much else will prove to be right. I wonder how far we are away for Wernher von Braun's last warnings to be fulfilled.

For smart people a lot of us are sure suckers, just dancing to the tune of the piped piper.




posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

I'm getting closer and closer to believing a civil war is necessary. America failed to rehabilitate the south after the last one, and their toxic culture has spread and morphed into it's own brand of fascism.

Eventually, when cancer gets bad enough, the only cure is to cut it out of the body.

It's time for a purge.



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 02:43 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

I think if society would stop protecting bad people and everything was a little less safe most of these problems would work themselves out



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: JBurns


It began on November 9, 2016.


The toxic culture that needs to be eliminated began far earlier than that, it goes back to our nations founding.

It just wasn't until recently that they gained enough power that other fixes stopped being viable. Even when the blue wave hits, that will just reset things, the potential is always going to be there until we cure the cancer.



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 02:47 PM
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one major problem is that many judge if someone is left or right simply if they disagree with someones current pov

no one is willing to get back to the basics

he is not only correct but a few yrs behind



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Aazadan

I think if society would stop protecting bad people and everything was a little less safe most of these problems would work themselves out


I agree. Have you ever seen the picture of JFK where he's in a rural town campaigning, with no security, and several people around him are holding loaded guns?

Leaders should lead from the front, not from behind bulletproof glass and security teams. Maybe then they would be scared into acting in the nations interest.



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 02:49 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
one major problem is that many judge if someone is left or right simply if they disagree with someones current pov

no one is willing to get back to the basics

he is not only correct but a few yrs behind


When Trump leaves office at the end of his 4 years the left will calm down once they get their candidate in office...



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

Paying consequences for your actions (I'm not talking about jail jail is a country club for most people) I mean if it was a little more wild westy and people had to pay repercussions from the way they treat people our entire society would be a little more respectful and certainly politicians would be less likely to just openly screw over everyone and corrupt their positions like they do now



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 02:57 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Aazadan

Paying consequences for your actions (I'm not talking about jail jail is a country club for most people) I mean if it was a little more wild westy and people had to pay repercussions from the way they treat people our entire society would be a little more respectful and certainly politicians would be less likely to just openly screw over everyone and corrupt their positions like they do now



Part of me wishes we would bring back the concept of dueling in certain situations. But at the same time, I have to recognize that such a system would result in every politician being killed by the other side within days of gaining power.



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Meanwhile in Syria......

How is their civil war any concern of mine as an American citizen?

How is our cultural infighting any concern of yours as a British citizen?

In my opinion you got plenty to be worrying about on your little island not mine...



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: JBurns

I'm getting closer and closer to believing a civil war is necessary. America failed to rehabilitate the south after the last one, and their toxic culture has spread and morphed into it's own brand of fascism.

Eventually, when cancer gets bad enough, the only cure is to cut it out of the body.

It's time for a purge.

Hate to burst your bubble. But you'd lose that fight...



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 03:23 PM
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People can't see what's been right in front of them for a long time, and that is that the US has been fractured in ideology & culture for a very long time. The last civil war highlighted that, and we should have seen that neon writing on the wall.

It may come down to civil war eventually, yes. I think it's unavoidable. The bigger the crowd (population) the louder & more constant the discourse & fighting, you cannot force people into agreeing when they refuse to so much as compromise. Oil and water situation, you can't make them combine.
I doubt the borders will change much, if at all. I'd wager we'll have autonomous areas or outright territories under the federal government.

You cannot make larger and larger numbers of people with very different ideological drives tolerate each other without some iron fisting going on (ask China about that, or Indonesia) Or, on the other side of the coin, the alternative is little to no effective governing at all being taken seriously (ask India & Brazil about that one)

Preventing that wouldn't be easy, nor fast, but a good way to assure it would be to assure all parties have equal limelight. We're horribly unbalanced here, and it shows like a flashing neon sign. Too many people unhappy with their own party are shoehorning themselves in with ones they don't truly align with and taking the frustrations out on the competition. Too many others are telling droves they have no choices but Red or Blue, manipulating the current atmosphere to their advantage to maintain the status quo.
It's almost clandestine treason in a way.

If we don't change how we go about politics, our option is to have autonomous regions or territories doing their own thing. The question is, do people prefer keeping their heads in the sand, or would they have the balls to realize the two-party system is slow suicide?
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posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 03:25 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: JBurns

I'm getting closer and closer to believing a civil war is necessary. America failed to rehabilitate the south after the last one, and their toxic culture has spread and morphed into it's own brand of fascism.

Eventually, when cancer gets bad enough, the only cure is to cut it out of the body.

It's time for a purge.


What a load of uneducated-spewed horsecrap.

You know what's toxic? Arrogant a-holes that think "culture" is all about their interpretation of "art" and "education"... arrogant a-holes that can't distinguish individuals from groups and clump everyone into one big pile of mess.

Look at the disintegration of some of the higher educational institutions. They have lost direction and are churning out self-absorbed idiots that cry and whine and demand and insult and piss all over themselves when someone says "boo" to them. These weaklings require safe spaces and participation trophies. It has become pathetic, but oh wow! ...they have a Fine Arts degree or Comparative Literature degree, or maybe a Performing Arts education.

When you look at why someone supports a particular person to represent them, do you clump all supporters of that candidate in with that particular person? He!!...do you even look at the total person.

I think probably not.

The cancer is on the far left. They're intolerant and lacking certain abilities. But they're so full of themselves and who they THINK they are, they are destroying what this nation is and they have no clue how to fix problems. All they know how to do is whine, complain, insult, obstruct, and perform....oh, yeah...they are great at "performing". What a show!



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 03:30 PM
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a reply to: queenofswords


culture noun
us ​ /ˈkʌl·tʃər/
culture noun (WAY OF LIFE)


social studies the way of life of a particular people, esp. as shown in their ordinary behavior and habits, their attitudes toward each other, and their moral and religious beliefs:
He studied the culture of the Sioux Indians.

dictionary.cambridge.org...

In this definition, both he and you could argue til pigs grow wings and fly that each other's culture is damaging & detrimental. Your culture says his is s#, his says yours is s#. This back and forth is part of the problem stoking the fire (that, I might add, has being ongoing like I just pointed out) in the first place.
edit on 6/23/2018 by Nyiah because: Borked the quote tags, oops



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 03:32 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: JBurns

I'm getting closer and closer to believing a civil war is necessary. America failed to rehabilitate the south after the last one, and their toxic culture has spread and morphed into it's own brand of fascism.

Eventually, when cancer gets bad enough, the only cure is to cut it out of the body.

It's time for a purge.


Cancer is cells in the body that morph and become toxic, growing and using up resources until it kills the host.

Which is an excellent definition of the Democrat party. And progressives in general.




posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 03:41 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari



We are the stage known as, "the beautiful ones"



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: JBurns

Interesting article; I particularly liked this bit!


Democrats won't give up on democracy. It's too central to their identity, and their commitment to democratic norms and processes is also their point of greatest contrast with Trumpism. Instead, Democrats will give up on conservatives. They will give up on Alabama and Mississippi, on Kansas and Nebraska. They will explore ways to divorce their culture, politics and economy from Trumpism and from their fellow Americans who support it. I don't know exactly what that would look like. But liberals have a great deal of cultural, academic and economic heft, stretching from Hollywood to Harvard. Just this week, some Hollywood powerhouses flirted with leveraging their clout against the Trumpist Fox News. There are endless variations on such a power play. If Democrats opt to use their power more aggressively — breaking rules —Schaller's soft civil war hardly seems unlikely


That idea sort of expresses what I've seen before; the Democrats won't give up on Democracy; they'll just give up on fly-over-country and more or less the US as well. Their cities are already flouting US Federal Law.

However, my guess is that the Dems will take back Congress in November; at least that's my hope. Trump should be the last "Republican" or "Right Wing" president of the US. The Republicans themselves have nothing to offer in terms of an agenda for the US going forward and we may as well face the fact that demographically, the Republicans are finished.


I think you’re making a few assumptions, where the reality may surprise you. Not all Democrats are far left liberals. Not all Democrats are ready to cede their Republic. Not all Democrats feel they have the right to force others to live by their loose moral standards. All Democrats will not blindly vote for a flawed Democratic candidatev(see HRCs failed campaign for an example). Many Democrats are thankful for the tax cuts and jobs availability, regardless of what the MSM tells us. It goes on and on.
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posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

I do not hope for this outcome. We will be a 3rd world country over night. And the country we wake up to the "day after" (so to speak) would probably be unrecognizable

Regardless, I'm not so sure that hopeful and wishful thinking is enough. There are realistically only a handful of ways this can go (IMO)

1) One side definitively loses, albeit peacefully. This would amount to one side throwing in the towel and walking away.
2) Both sides agree to non-aggression/non-interference (and probably autonomous regions).
3) One or more side uses violence to attempt to gain an advantage over the other side.

What am I missing here? Because #1 is very unlikely, #2 would be sensible and the only real answer/solution, but #3 appears more likely given a large swath of the population's propensity to strike out in anger and violence (see: antifa, etc)



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

I do not hope for this outcome. We will be a 3rd world country over night. And the country we wake up to the "day after" (so to speak) would probably be unrecognizable

Regardless, I'm not so sure that hopeful and wishful thinking is enough. There are realistically only a handful of ways this can go (IMO)

1) One side definitively loses, albeit peacefully. This would amount to one side throwing in the towel and walking away.
2) Both sides agree to non-aggression/non-interference (and probably autonomous regions).
3) One or more side uses violence to attempt to gain an advantage over the other side.

What am I missing here? Because #1 is very unlikely, #2 would be sensible and the only real answer/solution, but #3 appears more likely given a large swath of the population's propensity to strike out in anger and violence (see: antifa, etc)

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

We know what the optimal solution is when all else fails -- #2. But it's a mere wish. Greed & obstinance always drives #3 into fruition.



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 05:25 PM
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I always find it ironic how the people who are most vocal about Russia! and other outside influences in our election process fail to realize that they are the principle puppets in that manipulation scheme. This isn't hidden information. We know from analyzing what Russia did with social media that these were precisely the people they were targeting to get a reaction and thus an equal reaction on the other side of the spectrum.

The key is to end extremism on all fronts. It isn't going to get us anywhere good. I keep hearing the democratic socialists saying they want to bring balance back to the American system. Well, we tried a soft version of that with Obama and look what it got us, Trump. I'd really be frightened to see the reaction to Sanders or Warren would be. So just stop the silliness already start thinking and behaving like a grown up.




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