Yes, Antwon Rose probably got what he deserved

a reply to: JoshuaCox

It is propaganda meant to hype up people to stupid to ask the question “what would be logistically required to do that.. “

all that is needed to "logistically" be able to do it, is talk about it.

A question that instantly debunkes about 89% of right wing conspiracies...

Examples. To make such a broad statement requires broad evidence. I will gladly wait your reply.

a reply to: JBurns

What? He was just an innocent child hanging out with bloodthirsty gangbanging killers who pack guns.

What?? Innocent children always hang around with bloodthirsty gangbanging killers who pack guns.

There's No Way In Hell he was ever going to grow up to be a bloodthirsty gangbanging killer who packs guns... He was going to either join the NFL or become a Priest, the facts show that this is obvious.

He was on a pathway to success until his life was cut short by a racist.



His life WAS precious, don't get me wrong...its just too bad HIS PARENTS allowed him to end up in a car with bloodthirsty gangbanging killers.

Just like the situation at the border, nobody puts any responsibility on the parents... the ONLY people ON EARTH responsible for the child's life. THEY failed him.

They did not teach him even the most BASIC survival skills like "don't hang around with gang bangers who pack guns and shoot at people."

They ought to have any remaining children taken out of their care.

It takes a gigantic POS to think otherwise. I'm just kidding, that is a reference to the first post in this thread, made by one of those binary, "with us or against us" kind of people. No, if you disagree with me, I would love to hear about it actually. That's how we solve problems, by talking it out. Not by scaring you into submission...

Oh I guess I better not disagree with what underwerks said...or else everyone is gonna think I'm a giant POS...😯

Funny how this is just normal for some people. They don't even see anything wrong with it either. Just standard operating procedure. Just another day at office.

Disagree and you are a Gigantic POS. Now, let's have a nice discussion.

Yeah the people who think and operate this way, believe they are the good guys...

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: JBurns
No 17 year old deserves to be shot in the back as he’s running away.

It takes a gigantic POS to think that he does.

Really? No 17 year old? You don't get out much or haven't seen much of the world, except maybe the view from 1st class maybe?

What exacrly is it about a person 18 years of age that makes them deserve to be shot in the back running away? Why do you specifically point out his age? "No 17 year old" Ok but why?

What is it about a 17 year old that they get this special protection that, no matter what they do, they don't deserve to be shot in the back running? Do you just mean everyone under the age of 18? So it's a legal thing for you not a moral issue? Cause morally, you could say "nobody deserves blah blah blah" but that is a moot point. I wish we could rehabilitate every criminal, and when they "act out" I wish we had some really good, reliable, non lethal weapons to take them into custody before they can hurt a person.

But we live in a world where people get shot.

It takes maybe 2 or 3 brain cells to figure out "if I get in the car with these guys, I might not make it home." The guy is probably in spirit form right now mad as hell that he had the thuggish state of mind to go out like a badass in his fav movie, and everyone is making him look like a little weenie boy... He's like "No, don't put THAT picture in the media! I look like a square!"

You guys are disrespecting his legacy. He obviously knew the result he was looking for, are you saying he was stupid? No he knew. He knew what he wanted. He wanted to jump out of the car and run rather than obey police and answer questions. Obey police?? Come on, what is he, a bitch? Better to DIE than snitch on your homies.

In all likelihood, he got what he wanted. His homies will thing that he is a "True G" now. Do you know how important that is to these kids out here? They will kill for it, die for it, go to Help for it...

I don't think you realize what we are up against. There's not many "sweet innocent children" left in the world.

I do however agree that, if they could solve a lot of the tension by firing these cops involved in controversial shootings, they should do it, and in fact there are at least a few where charges of Some kind should have been pressed. Maybe we need a new crime that is on par with manslaughter, so, the people who want him charged with something are happy, and so are the people who don't want a man charged with murder for doing his job.

I'm not talking about every shooting, and I don't buy the theory that we can't ever prosecute or even charge a coo with shooting someone because then every other cop in the nation will be too afraid to do their jobs.

Or maybe if we hired More cops, they would feel safer in numbers so they arent quite so trigger happy?

Us citizens sometimes fail to see it from a cops perspective. If this man was armed, and has already shown himself ready to harm others (due to the earlier shooting), then that is a completely different situation than just pulling over a car and someone runs. Because in this case, you are going to feel responsible if this guy escapes and ends up holding a family hostage or shooting someone who gets in his way. You already know this car was involved in a shooting, and now the occupants are refusing to give up peacefully? Then yeah, you have to take them down before they go shooting at anyone else.

a reply to: Bigburgh

There was never any problem. The protesters at the ball park were fine. It was Channel 11's reports that were the problem. It was like they were trying to get a riot started.

a reply to: underwerks

He was part of a shooting he hopped out car . Cop thought he was still armed . Cop fired perp went down sorry but you do stupid crap you should not be surprised when it blows up in your face . Yes he was seventeen so what .he made a choice and got burned.

a reply to: proteus33

But In Reality the cop wasn’t in any danger, because they consciously chose not to have a shootout with the cops by leaving the guns in the car when they ran.


Also the driver surrendered, so there was that as evidence the cop wasn’t in danger.



But lastly the cop didn’t know what the shooting was about , nor did he confirm the car he was stopping was the same car. All he knew was it kinda matched the discription and had a few bullet holes..


Thousands of cars have bulletholes.

What the cop thought should not over rule the actual facts lol...



Is it ok if a cop kills your child because he thought he was a terrorist when your child was not a terrorist??


How does the actual truth not matter. Only what the cop thought matters lol?!?!

That’s crazy and subjective, and unknowable.

a reply to: highvein

Oh no ..

Most importantly you need an army to do it..


There is not one. The military wouldn’t confiscate all the guns. The local police wouldn’t.


Just the thought of it has been political suicide for all of American history..




It would cost a trillion dollars, countless lives and likely start a civil war.


It is so obvious that not one elected official in American history has ever even said they wanted to.. not once.. in hundreds of years and tens of thousands of elected officials.



It is how the GOP gets poor uneducated people to vote for them... it isn’t like poor uneducated people care about corporate deregulation lol..



It is propaganda meant for stupid people.

originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: JBurns

His life WAS precious, don't get me wrong...

All life is, which is exactly why murderous thugs need to leave this world so as to not allow them to end precious life.

a reply to: highvein

My pleasure..


A) all the media is in a vast conspiracy to discredit the gop.

What exactly would be required to pay off every journalist not employed by Fox News or a conservative conspiracy site??? Lol

And every one of those people is passing up being rich and famous by breaking that story?!?!

Yea .. that makes since..


B) 95%+ of scientists are in a vast conspiracy to fake global warming...


So all the smartest people on the planet are being paid off to fabricate global warming for... a carbon tax that never passed??? Lol


C) huge swaths of the FBI , CIA , ect. risking their careers and likely freedoms to set Trump up for Russian collusion. When there is no one in power to protect them???


Trump owns every branch of government and law enforcement.. trump is everyone’s boss now. Not obama or hillary.. obama and hillary can no longer protect anyone..

Trumps own IG just said hillary should not have been prosecuted and he found no evidence that political bias played a direct role in the investigation.. TRUMPS OWN IG!!




There are a few obvious examples that are spouted by every single conservative commentator.. it should be obvious since they don’t even claim to be journalists. Lol

a reply to: underwerks

You just said it again

a reply to: JoshuaCox

No one needs paid off. They're doing it because of their own convoluted (and wrong) political ideology. You ignore the MSM conspiracy, yet somehow believe there is a vast Russian conspiracy to destroy your precious Dumpy-Democrats? That's what is ridiculous. Fact is, your lurch to the far-left is what lost you guys the election. Plus the fact you picked the dumpiest and least qualified candidate to run in 2016. No one has ever liked Hillary Clinton, repeat: she's always been historically unpopular and lost every single bid for the WH. Yet you "geniuses" were more interested in running a women for President than actually winning.

Trumps own IG just said hillary should not have been prosecuted and he found no evidence that political bias played a direct role in the investigation.. TRUMPS OWN IG!!

Yet you ignore the fact that agents within the FBI (who worked on BOTH investigations) plotted and conspired to take Trump down which Trump's OWN IG testified to before congress Explain it...

I'd stop trying to rationalize your bull#. No one is listening.We're only concerned with crushing you guys once and for all in 2018, and destroying your bastard "mob rule" socialist BS. I personally have donated enough money to right-wing causes to cancel out hundreds of broke leftists petty donations. Running total is about $25 Grand. I intend to double that amount by time 2020 roles around.

We will steam roll you guys over like we did Shillary Klinton

C) huge swaths of the FBI , CIA , ect. risking their careers and likely freedoms to set Trump up for Russian collusion. When there is no one in power to protect them???

Clearly they are, otherwise evidence would've been found.

Bitter leftist liars started the allegations, based on nothing other than wishful thinking and making vast logical leaps. The fact ANY serious person/investigative agency took political sour grapes serious is the most egregious and treasonous offense I've ever seen.

I don't support allegations of treason (and its lethal consequences) for very many causes... but the architects of this anti-American conspiracy deserve nothing less than a needle in the arm.

Where is the "collusion" ? Where is the evidence?

Why have 90% of the sociopathic leftists who pushed this bizarre and patently false conspiracy theory disappeared? From this very forum, no less. Totally vanished once it was clear the "collusion" narrative was deceased.

originally posted by: JIMC5499
a reply to: Bigburgh

There was never any problem. The protesters at the ball park were fine. It was Channel 11's reports that were the problem. It was like they were trying to get a riot started.

I also live in the area and I agree. The news people are a big part of the problem.


I'd read online that the video of the kid shooting earlier was said to be false by county police authorities but it was long after I read the item that a news lady was going ahead with the "(unnamed) sources said he was on video shooting...."

Do they not think the source willing to give a name in the debunking might be more trustworthy than an anon?

(of course being ever the skeptic, I had to wonder if the named source was just pushed into keeping to the innocent child gunned down narrative of the events.)

You have never been on a stop...have you.

Let's see: just did a drive by, two firearms and ran. He got what he deserved. If he was innocent, he would not have ran...

a reply to: JBurns

Hey...

Was he armed at the time he was shot? If not, then its a bad shoot. A fleeing suspect who is not armed, does not pose a significant danger to the public, especially in a nation like America, where there are more guns than human beings to possess them all.

And another thing, they found guns in his car, eh? Well, it IS America... what were you expecting? A tome of Edgar Allen Poe's finest works of verse and storytelling? Double standards are terrible.

PROOF OF COLLUSION...

You know the email released by Trumps own some that LITERALLY spells out collusion and “Russian government “ multiple times...

I know you’ve seen it. So why you keep doing this laughable “where is the evidence of collusion” nonsense..


Then Trump Jr. replied “I love it. Especially in the summer” , which was exactly when the emails dropped. Right before taking LITERALLY the top 3 people from the trump campaign to a meeting with government agents..



Your just being TOTALLY dishonest.. it’s obvious trump was willing and able to collide... by the words of his own son, son in law and campaign chairman.

Good morning Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting. The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin. What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly? I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first. Best Rob Goldstone

a reply to: JBurns

a reply to: daveinats

Sure...


And innocent people never get convicted of crimes they didn’t commit..


What a joke lmao..

a reply to: JBurns

BWAHAHAHA...


Yea that is why trumps own IG report said “political bias played no direct role in the investigation “ AND “Hillary Clinton should never have been charged with a federal crime”.. because trump just won’t stop appointing people who are willing to cover up for hillary and those setting trump up..


It is laughable propaganda that shouldn’t fool anyone but stupid people..

I've been trying to get a grasp on this story. Was the car he got out of involved or not involved in a shooting?