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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: JBurns
DHS estimates that there are about 11.4 million people in the country illegally. If we, for the sake of argument, assume that all 10,000 are both the worst of the "bad hombres" and are ALL in the country illegally, then we're still talking about 0.08% or less than one-tenth of one-percent. 99.92% having absolutely no affiliation to MS-13 even if we accept the estimate and assume that all MS-13 affiliates are illegal immigrants.
originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: mtnshredder
Lol isn't east l.a. going the way of the hipster nowadays?
originally posted by: theantediluvian
The issue I take is with the exploitation of these stricken families in what is nothing but a brazen stunt by a shameless demagogue bent on demonizing and dehumanizing illegal border crossers to promote fear and hatred and as a justification for appalling treatment given to people who are mostly desperate folks, risking life, limb and freedom to escape conditions many of us would flee if we had this misfortune to find ourselves in similarly dire straits.
They're not coming to steal our jobs. If you think that's an actual thing, you're an idiot who doesn't grasp economic fundamentals. They're not mooches who are coming to steal the food from our children's mouths. How many of us have seen these people working their asses off for # wages? How many are exploited by ruthless, amoral employers who violate our laws not in pursuit of freedom, safety and opportunity, not to give their children a better future, but to maximize profits by exploiting vulnerable people whose immigration status makes them incapable of demanding better.
Understand: Any group of human beings larger than a handful will undoubtedly contain dangerous criminals whose actions will harm others. It's inescapable. Whether those people are white, black, Hispanic, native-born or not, rich or poor, educated or not, raised to believe in whatever religion or none at all — in whatever demographic group you want to split people into — there will be a certain percentage of people who will do harm to others.
Trump is disagreeing with members of his own party on hiring more immigration judges.
Families are being offered an impossibly cruel choice: fight to stay in the US apart, or give up and get sent back together.
Got kush for the pain 'cause the world is dangerous
Driven great men insane, anchor themselves with angel dust
Somewhere between love and lust, a nut get bust and a baby get made
It seems that trouble trouble us and follow us like all our days
In every holy book it says we suffer, that's what it is
So riddle me this; from the womb to the tomb, why do we fight to live?
originally posted by: PublicOpinion
Nice Dick Cheney move right there. Gotta give him some creds when it's due.
originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Xtrozero
Under Obama
That's where you've lost me, literally.
You're still in the wrong timeline but it aint the alternative universe anymore. It's a start, whatever that means.
Did you actually read a word past "under Obama"
trying to fix.
Over a 10-year period (2005-2014) ICE arrested approximately 4,000 MS-13 members, leaders, and associates. This represents about 13 percent of all gang members they arrested nationwide (31,000) during that period.
92 percent of the MS-13 affiliated aliens arrested were illegal aliens. Of those, 16 percent had entered illegally at least twice.
originally posted by: PublicOpinion
Families are being offered an impossibly cruel choice: fight to stay in the US apart, or give up and get sent back together.
Trump will reunite separated families — but only if they agree to deportation
Nice Dick Cheney move right there. Gotta give him some creds when it's due.