Donald Trump's 'Angel Family' PR Stunt

a reply to: carewemust

Easy to be scandal free when no one reports the scandals.

a reply to: The GUT

If you had the humanity you claim to have you'd be calling out do-nothing posers like Shumer and a fully corrupt DNC.

To hell with Chuck Shumer. You clearly have no real idea of how little I care about bashing politicians. Chuck Shumer is joke. A feckless joke. He's not even good at his job. And on top of all that, his biggest donors have been Jared Kushner's parents.

I care nothing about Chuck Shumer. ATS is chock full of Trump cheerleaders. It doesn't need me "calling out" Shumer or anyone else. It needs me to call out Trump because God knows, none of you ever will.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Butterfinger

He was not reaching out in an outpouring of compassion. It was a stunt. Are we going to give a label to the families of people killed by criminals who happened to be members any other demographic and then trot them out on stage every week?

What valid purpose would that have?

Next week we could have the families of people killed by black criminals. The week after, the families of people killed by white criminals. And the week after that, the families of people killed by gays and the following week, the families of people killed by Hindus, plumbers, pipe fitters, IT managers, Elks Lodge members.

There's a reason that it was this group. There's also a reason that the handpicked people on stage had disproportionately Hispanic surnames and that one was a legal immigrant — to sugarcoat the vileness of what it really was.

So then what is your opinion on photos being used from 2014, and a little girl on TIME magazine (that was never separated from her mother as it turns out), and a photo of a kid caged in a protest being used to paint this as solely on Trump?

Seems like a perfect response to me.

a reply to: theantediluvian

I have called out Trump.

I called him an A type slightly narcissistic misogynistic a hole.

My opinion of him has slightly improved in some of these reguards because the behavior in question is from his past. And I believe none of us are perfect and that learning and changing is a part of life. And the current version of Mr. Trump doesn't seem as worthy of my harsh comments as the younger version of Trump would.

But what I don't do is let my bias, Democratic Socialist, determine how I perceive everything Trump does.

I have a mind and I think and judge for myslef based on facts and not emotions. Something you have proven incapable of.

a reply to: theantediluvian

So you admit that your threads are created to solely bash Trump and his supporters.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Actually there's plenty of issues to call Trump on.

But ya need to select the right ones first, then look at the Strategy and figure out the results.

Not easy is it.

The (R) votes are racking-up by the thousands every day.



"I like the US politics.
Maybe we do same here soon"

a reply to: theantediluvian

It was picked because its the top of every news outlet thanks to caged kids in a pic from 2014.

a reply to: Isurrender73

The democrats might stand a chance if they had someone like me leading them. You know someone with a platform.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: theantediluvian



"I like the US politics.
Maybe we do same here soon"

Really ?

So, Hillary will be candidate for President in North Korea and rig the elections there ?

originally posted by: Bluntone22
A politician taking advantage of a situation to push his position?

Never heard that one before.

You mean to say, you've never been silent about it before, don't you?

a reply to: Wardaddy454

So then what is your opinion on photos being used from 2014, and a little girl on TIME magazine (that was never separated from her mother as it turns out), and a photo of a kid caged in a protest being used to paint this as solely on Trump? Seems like a perfect response to me.

The pictures from 2014: what a #ing idiot. But I'm not going to shy away from what's in them nor am I somehow dismissive of the ACLU report on abuse and kids ended up being turned over to human traffickers found in documents from 2009-2014.

Those should be investigated and people should be held to account. And clearly, we need better oversight.

and a little girl on TIME magazine (that was never separated from her mother as it turns out)

I said pretty much everything I had to say in the thread about it earlier. The photographer didn't claim anything about the image. I get that some people are crying foul but it is what it is with that particular image. It's the most associated with the family separation issue. There's no photos to be had of separations though because it takes place in places where there are no photographers to witness it.

That doesn't in any way diminish the reality of the situation.

As I've said before, Trump didn't create illegal immigration. He's clearly not on the hook for the federal government before he was inaugurated. Obama has to take the blame for what happened on his watch.

None of that justifies Trump's demagoguery on illegal immigrants or excuses what's going on with CBP/DHS/ICE/etc on his watch.

a reply to: theantediluvian


HUUUUUUUGE WIN for Trump.

BIGLY!

Father of murder victim of an illegal scumbag...."My daughter was the real Dreamer"

Solid gold. Shaming the mainstream media with real content that matters. Votes are being determined, people who would otherwise avoid the polls are stirred up by the Liberal Dems anti Americanism and will shock them into yet more sky screaming.

a reply to: Wardaddy454

So you admit that your threads are created to solely bash Trump and his supporters.

I have minimal actual interest in bashing Trump's supporters. Trump on the other hand is the President of the United States of America and I have absolutely no problem with criticizing him.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Yet you do bash them every chance you get.

a reply to: carewemust

Try harder to find REAL dirt. Keep hope alive!

Really? Come on now. You mean "real dirt" like the complete fabrications you've been posting from Neon Nettle?

a reply to: theantediluvian

One of those families lives my neighborhood. I can almost throw a stone and hit their home.

www.lex18.com...

So I would ask you, what would you say to the legal immigrant whose daughter and son-in-law had worked so hard, did things the legal way and came to the US and to my neighborhood for a better life? You want the borders open for all?

Not a day passes that we in this neighborhood don't miss the happy smiles of that family. Precious baby Marisol was just learning to talk. Miguel was thrilled at being a "big boy" going to kindergarten before his illegal relative decided to slit his throat to gain creds to become a member of the gang that transports meth from Mexico to western Kentucky.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Wardaddy454

So then what is your opinion on photos being used from 2014, and a little girl on TIME magazine (that was never separated from her mother as it turns out), and a photo of a kid caged in a protest being used to paint this as solely on Trump? Seems like a perfect response to me.

The pictures from 2014: what a #ing idiot. But I'm not going to shy away from what's in them nor am I somehow dismissive of the ACLU report on abuse and kids ended up being turned over to human traffickers found in documents from 2009-2014.

Those should be investigated and people should be held to account. And clearly, we need better oversight.

and a little girl on TIME magazine (that was never separated from her mother as it turns out)

I said pretty much everything I had to say in the thread about it earlier. The photographer didn't claim anything about the image. I get that some people are crying foul but it is what it is with that particular image. It's the most associated with the family separation issue. There's no photos to be had of separations though because it takes place in places where there are no photographers to witness it.

That doesn't in any way diminish the reality of the situation.

As I've said before, Trump didn't create illegal immigration. He's clearly not on the hook for the federal government before he was inaugurated. Obama has to take the blame for what happened on his watch.

None of that justifies Trump's demagoguery on illegal immigrants or excuses what's going on with CBP/DHS/ICE/etc on his watch.

Hmm are you calling me a #ing idiot?

Just continue to double down, its what you're best at.

I don't want to minimize what those families have been through, either. God Bless Them.

But what gives this away as a self-serving political stunt?

I'll tell you what. When he puts all the parents on the stage who have had children killed at their schools by natural American citizens who are too freaking nutzo to be in possession of a gun, then maybe I'll believe he's trying to achieve something other than his own votes.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

The sad thing is that you're the probably the brightest of the bunch but you resort to "nuh uh, you are!" responses. You know full well why I used the term "hostages" and it's literally not an example of doublespeak.

Trump/his admin knew exactly what the result of the zero tolerance policy would be. That's why the backburnered it initially. They were cognizant of the fact that referring those apprehended for criminal prosecution, to maximize the numbers detained, would result in a drastic uptick in detained parents, separated from their children.

And as soon as they pulled the trigger and the anticipated result and subsequent backlash ensued, Trump used his own manufactured crisis and its victims as leverage to coerce Congress to enact his agenda.

The issue you take is with Donald Trump. That's it. That's your issue.

You're defending a disgusting piece of # because white knighting Trump has become your shtick. Anyone who was pulling the # Trump is right now would draw the same criticism from me.

You exploit illegals to promote fear and hatred as a justification to continue doing nothing else.

I have no idea what you're trying to say there and I'm pretty you don't either.

originally posted by: Isurrender73
a reply to: theantediluvian

You're either having a meltdown or trolling. You used to sound intelligent. Now you sound like you are part of the desperate deep state that becomes one step closer to irrelevance each day.

I am having neither a meltdown nor am I trolling. The President of the United States is overtly demonizing illegal immigrants as a political tool.

That's really nothing new, he started out his campaign with it.

Why I posted little rant today was because of this "Angel Families" stunt. It was beyond the pale, even by Trump's standards.