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Venezuela crisis: UN says security forces killed hundreds

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posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:06 AM
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Venezuelan security forces have carried out hundreds of arbitrary killings under the guise of fighting crime, the UN's human rights body says.

Venezuela crisis: UN says security forces killed hundreds

Socialism. Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.

If you don't follow in lock-step, then they kill you.

Central and South America, the Carribean nation of Cuba, and much of the Eastern Bloc are prime examples of why socialism is a screwed ideology.

Here's another example of it failing...But, don't worry guys:



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posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:12 AM
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The end game of Socialism always ends in the slaughter of its citizens. We see this time and time again throughout the history of the world.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Damn, what a disturbing article. I was in Military Academy with a number of Venezuelans. They are great people, with a lot of pride. Breaks my heart to see this happening, in the 80s, there was a great deal of private money, many folks thrived.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:24 AM
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Quit resisting! Its for your own good!



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn


Venezuelan security forces have carried out hundreds of arbitrary killings under the guise of fighting crime, the UN's human rights body says.

Venezuela crisis: UN says security forces killed hundreds

Socialism. Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.

If you don't follow in lock-step, then they kill you.

Central and South America, the Carribean nation of Cuba, and much of the Eastern Bloc are prime examples of why socialism is a screwed ideology.

Here's another example of it failing...But, don't worry guys:




Get educated.

Venezuela took out big loans. The price of oil tanked. Venezuela defaulted on loans.

WTF does poor banking and the price of oil have to do with any God-Damm ism? When you borrow more than you can pay you go bankrupt. Apparently you think this is unique to Socialism.

But wait the world is approximately 250 Trillion in debt to banks. In the US we are 20 Trillion in debt. How long before we can't make the payments? I guess capitalism is a failure too by this stupid logic.


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posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: Isurrender73

originally posted by: projectvxn


Venezuelan security forces have carried out hundreds of arbitrary killings under the guise of fighting crime, the UN's human rights body says.

Venezuela crisis: UN says security forces killed hundreds

Socialism. Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.

If you don't follow in lock-step, then they kill you.

Central and South America, the Carribean nation of Cuba, and much of the Eastern Bloc are prime examples of why socialism is a screwed ideology.

Here's another example of it failing...But, don't worry guys:




Get educated.

Venezuela took out big loans. The price of oil tanked. Venezuela defaulted on loans.

WTF does poor banking and the price of oil have to do with any God-Damm ism? When you borrow more than ypu can pay you go bankrupt. Apparently you think this is unique to Socialism.

But wait the world is approximately 250 Trillion in debt to banks. In the US we are 20 Trillion in debt. How long before we can't make the payments? I guess capitalism is a failure too by this stupid logic.



You seem to be unable to separate the command and control ideology that pigeon holes socialist dictatorships into having that very thing you just stated, happen.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: Isurrender73

absolutely has to do with socialism and its inherent flaw of sucking empowerment of the individual away to the point no new revenue is created and the corrupt central government collapses on itself.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Let me help ya there buddy. I believe you meant to say that any and all types of governing ends in disasters. The US will fall just as all empires do.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: Metallicus

Let me help ya there buddy. I believe you meant to say that any and all types of governing ends in disasters. The US will fall just as all empires do.



Government does not always end in disaster...Government, IS disaster.

The point is for your economy to be multi faceted so one thing does not bring you down like USSR



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: SR1TX

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: Metallicus

Let me help ya there buddy. I believe you meant to say that any and all types of governing ends in disasters. The US will fall just as all empires do.



Government does not always end in disaster...Government, IS disaster.

The point is for your economy to be multi faceted so one thing does not bring you down like USSR


Care to point one out for me?



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: Isurrender73

absolutely has to do with socialism and its inherent flaw of sucking empowerment of the individual away to the point no new revenue is created and the corrupt central government collapses on itself.


Venezuela $60 billion debt.
USA $20 trillion debt.

If the world didn't need the US and our currency we would be in the same situation as Venezuela.

Absolutely has to do with Capitalism and it's inherent flaw of allowing the 1% to suck the empowerment of the individual to the point that no new revenue is created and the corrupt central government implodes on itself.
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posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: Isurrender73

Hey, I didnt claim that capitolism doesnt have its flaws. Nor did I say our government isnt corrupt.

But I will never subscribe to losing my individual choice and I believe history has shown again and again the abject failure of socialism. Its corruption just kills a lot faster than the one we operate in as motivation is present in individualism, complacency seems the byproduct of socialism.
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posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 12:18 PM
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Failing?

They're culling the Venezuelan population. Isn't that what those pigs on the Guidestones want?

Socialism isn't a failure. It's a rousing success for those who seek power through murder and intrigue.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 01:51 PM
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Apparently you think this is unique to Socialism.


Debt isn't a unique characteristic of socialism.

But the conditions that have lead to this mess are certainly germane to it.

I think it's funny that you're in here defending the socialist regime of Venezuela and their crap policies and skimming over all the crap Chavez and Maduro have done to create the situation the people of Venezuela are in now.
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posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 02:00 PM
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This is super sad and like I said will only add to our growing refugee crisis. I have always been for inevitable globalization but I feel like this will definitely speed it up. I feel like it's time for reverse immigration, time for educated highly skilled people from the Western World to move to the third world countries and help educate and build up their infrastructure so we can pull the entire world into the first world.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: Isurrender73

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: Isurrender73

absolutely has to do with socialism and its inherent flaw of sucking empowerment of the individual away to the point no new revenue is created and the corrupt central government collapses on itself.


Venezuela $60 billion debt.
USA $20 trillion debt.

If the world didn't need the US and our currency we would be in the same situation as Venezuela.

Absolutely has to do with Capitalism and it's inherent flaw of allowing the 1% to suck the empowerment of the individual to the point that no new revenue is created and the corrupt central government implodes on itself.


(Cough cough) it's worse in Venezuela.

"Absolutely has to do with socialism and it's inherent flaw of allowing the 1% to suck the empowerment of the individual to the point that no new revenue is created and the corrupt central government implodes on itself."
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posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Isurrender73




Apparently you think this is unique to Socialism.


Debt isn't a unique characteristic of socialism.

But the conditions that have lead to this mess are certainly germane to it.

I think it's funny that you're in here defending the socialist regime of Venezuela and their crap policies and skimming over all the crap Chavez and Maduro have done to create the situation the people of Venezuela are in now.


I'm not defending anything that happend in Venezuela. I am denying ignorance.

You are the one that suggested socialism lead to these murders. Socialism doesn't make people insane psychopaths. I have no idea why you felt you needed to make this about political ideology.

If you want to ignorantly blame the collapse of the economy on socialism instead of the bankers be my guest. But to blame socialism for murder is fear mongering BS.
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posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 11:27 PM
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Ahh the Hollyweird Elite's favorite Socialist hell hole. Killing in the streets just like they dream of one day here.



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 12:33 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

The conspiracy theorist in me finds this report convenient. Just last week Venezuela defaulted on its loans. Their bond holders are furious because he refuses to restructure china is on the hook for billions. China invested heavily into venezuela and south America in part to pish the US out of the region. There success is now costing them more then you could imagine. The default is going to cause others such as Chile to default as well. Venezuela was the richest country in south America.

Then the US decided on putting sanctions on Venezuela and the economy crashed. But not fast enough so then last year Trump strengthened sanctions claiming they were trying to rewrite their constitution. Im wondering if US sanctions was used to get Chins out of the region. You know telling them no playing in my backyard.

Anyway china knows the only way sanctions can be removed and debt restructuring can occur is for Maduro to be removed. Now we have the HRC declaring they are killing people based off internet interviews and no one has gone their and spoke to Venezuelans. And china has a lot of pull in the human rights council.

Perhaps im paranoid but optics it just looks wrong.
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posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 12:34 AM
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a reply to: conspiracy nut

If the whole world had a the same quality lifestyles as those in the West the the world would run out of resources and fast. As resources become more scarce then wars will happen to fight for those resources. Of course those at the bottom should have a better quality and standard of living but when the price to be paid is a substantial reduction in those same things in the West you can see why it hasn't happened especially when the poorest people in the West would be considered rich to a poor person anywhere else.




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