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originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Sublimecraft
HOLY CANOLLI! It's almost as if TIME, CNN, NYT, WAPO, MSNBC,...have an ANTI-Trump agenda of their very own!
Say It Ain't So!
It's "time" to take CNN out!
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: underwerks
You: "and saying it’s a picture of a woman and child being separated"
Me: "Who said that?"
Now, back to you, since you didn't answer my question.
who
said
that?
originally posted by: underwerks
I think it just dawned on the OP the basic fallacy of the whole thing. That calling out TIME magazine for lying about this photo doesn’t work because they actually never stated it was a photo of a child being separated from her mother.
originally posted by: odzeandennz
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: Sublimecraft
give a link to the article where they said she was separated from her parents at the border please .
take a screenshot of the OP and circle where **I said she was separated from her parents at the border please.
**(thats me btw, Sublimecraft, I'm not the father of the little girl, nor the Honduran government)
I'll wait whilst you don your leotards......
the irony is maddening isnt it:
Time prints a misleading picture suggesting she was separated from parents at the border, when she wasn't;
you make a thread suggesting on the surface that Time magazine said she was separated from her parents at the border when they didn't....
and both corners are equally outraged.
mad times, mad society.
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: underwerks
Calling out TIME magazine for using this photo and saying it’s a picture of a woman and child being separated when it isn’t?
Who said that?
Your sources used in the OP.
Otherwise, what is the fake news narrative your are implying they are spreading with that picture and no other context?
Name the sources
That was an assumption that was made, then was used to try and smear TIME and everyone else that disagrees with them
Moore's image is now on the cover of Time magazine next to a picture of President Trump.
"They're using it to symbolize a policy and that was not the case in this picture," Ruiz said. "It took less than two minutes. As soon as the search was finished, she immediately picked the girl up, and the girl immediately stopped crying."
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: Sublimecraft
give a link to the article where they said she was separated from her parents at the border please .
take a screenshot of the OP and circle where **I said she was separated from her parents at the border please.
**(thats me btw, Sublimecraft, I'm not the father of the little girl, nor the Honduran government)
I'll wait whilst you don your leotards......
So do you admit that the girl in the photos mother wasn’t being separated from her?
Because that’s kind of what the OP is based on. Right? Calling out TIME magazine for using this photo and saying it’s a picture of a woman and child being separated when it isn’t?
That must be the premise, otherwise the OP does not make sense.
I think it just dawned on the OP the basic fallacy of the whole thing. That calling out TIME magazine for lying about this photo doesn’t work because they actually never stated it was a photo of a child being separated from her mother.
That was an assumption that was made, then was used to try and smear TIME and everyone else that disagrees with them.
Right wing propaganda 101.
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: odzeandennz
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: Sublimecraft
give a link to the article where they said she was separated from her parents at the border please .
take a screenshot of the OP and circle where **I said she was separated from her parents at the border please.
**(thats me btw, Sublimecraft, I'm not the father of the little girl, nor the Honduran government)
I'll wait whilst you don your leotards......
the irony is maddening isnt it:
Time prints a misleading picture suggesting she was separated from parents at the border, when she wasn't;
you make a thread suggesting on the surface that Time magazine said she was separated from her parents at the border when they didn't....
and both corners are equally outraged.
mad times, mad society.
The entire thread in a nutshell.
Thank you for stating it in a simple and concise way.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: network dude
This is lying right to your face. And if they can't find ONE good picture that factually illustrates the point, it makes you wonder if there is any truth at all to the matter.
Holy #.
Not even Trump nor any of the other liars in his administration denied that what has been happening, happened. Are you honestly arguing that because this particular girl wasn't separated from her mother that there weren't thousands of children who were?
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: underwerks
You: "and saying it’s a picture of a woman and child being separated"
Me: "Who said that?"
Now, back to you, since you didn't answer my question.
who
said
that?
I’ve asked you several times. Is that what your OP is implying?
Yet you respond with “who said that?”
???
So do you admit that the girl in the photos mother wasn’t being separated from her?
Because that’s kind of what the OP is based on. Right? Calling out TIME magazine for using this photo and saying it’s a picture of a woman and child being separated when it isn’t?
originally posted by: redmage
originally posted by: underwerks
I think it just dawned on the OP the basic fallacy of the whole thing. That calling out TIME magazine for lying about this photo doesn’t work because they actually never stated it was a photo of a child being separated from her mother.
Exactly, it was cover art, and Time never made any claim that this art was a literal representation of that specific child being separated from her family, or that Trump ever literally met her face to face for that matter.
It's provocative art, and it has clearly scored a home run with so much current discussion focused on it.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: network dude
at lest one legitimate picture must exist that would show this in it's context.
That was a "legitimate" picture.
There are lots of legitimate writen descriptions of filthy grimey babies that haven't been bathed in days and traumaticed toddles, crying histerically because they believed their parents were dead. Then there is that legitimate audio tape of terrified and traumatized voices of little children.
The OP says it's propaganda.
Please! It's propaganda because you don't like the imagrery. If you related to the imagrery you'd be just fine and it would be visual political commentary.
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: underwerks
You: "and saying it’s a picture of a woman and child being separated"
Me: "Who said that?"
Now, back to you, since you didn't answer my question.
who
said
that?
I’ve asked you several times. Is that what your OP is implying?
Yet you respond with “who said that?”
???
You typed out the following words, verbatim.......
So do you admit that the girl in the photos mother wasn’t being separated from her?
Because that’s kind of what the OP is based on. Right? Calling out TIME magazine for using this photo and saying it’s a picture of a woman and child being separated when it isn’t?
So, why would the Honduran government and the girls father say that she wasn't separated? Is that what you don't want to talk about?
Why would they say that?
What prompted them into saying that she was not separated?
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: Sublimecraft
give a link to the article where they said she was separated from her parents at the border please .
Exactly.
This is just another case of right wingers arguing an assumption as fact, then trying to smear the other side with it. Nothing I read in any of the original articles says this family was being separated. That’s just an assumption the reader made based on the photo.
What a lame way to try to call out the media.
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: underwerks
You: "and saying it’s a picture of a woman and child being separated"
Me: "Who said that?"
Now, back to you, since you didn't answer my question.
who
said
that?
I’ve asked you several times. Is that what your OP is implying?
Yet you respond with “who said that?”
???
You typed out the following words, verbatim.......
So do you admit that the girl in the photos mother wasn’t being separated from her?
Because that’s kind of what the OP is based on. Right? Calling out TIME magazine for using this photo and saying it’s a picture of a woman and child being separated when it isn’t?
So, why would the Honduran government and the girls father say that she wasn't separated? Is that what you don't want to talk about?
Why would they say that?
What prompted them into saying that she was not separated?
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: network dude
This is lying right to your face. And if they can't find ONE good picture that factually illustrates the point, it makes you wonder if there is any truth at all to the matter.
Holy #.
Not even Trump nor any of the other liars in his administration denied that what has been happening, happened. Are you honestly arguing that because this particular girl wasn't separated from her mother that there weren't thousands of children who were?
Please, I am well aware what happened is real. my hyperbole is in reference to the fact that Time had to use a fake picture to illustrate their point, when if this was even half as bad as it's been billed, there should have been about 12,000 photo opps. Why were none of them used, you know, real ones?
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Sublimecraft
And trump changed the emplementation of a law that led to the number of immigrant families being seperated jumping 1,000 fold.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: network dude
This is lying right to your face. And if they can't find ONE good picture that factually illustrates the point, it makes you wonder if there is any truth at all to the matter.
Holy #.
Not even Trump nor any of the other liars in his administration denied that what has been happening, happened. Are you honestly arguing that because this particular girl wasn't separated from her mother that there weren't thousands of children who were?
Please, I am well aware what happened is real. my hyperbole is in reference to the fact that Time had to use a fake picture to illustrate their point, when if this was even half as bad as it's been billed, there should have been about 12,000 photo opps. Why were none of them used, you know, real ones?