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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Boadicea
Just because someone does something wrong doesn't absolve us of the need to do the right thing.
originally posted by: TheLead
a reply to: Boadicea
How am I all over the place? All I've done is suggest that quite a bit of the abuse seems to have happened on the fathers watch. I'm also suggesting our border patrol and DHS are overloaded and and under resourced to properly deal with this situation, which always inevitably leads to abuse, see our foster system for reference. I'm also suggesting if we dont currently or haven't had the ability to care of our own how does this compounding issue help?
I jumped to no conclusions about your position but it seems you did mine.
originally posted by: Boadicea
originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Boadicea
Just because someone does something wrong doesn't absolve us of the need to do the right thing.
Yes! Thank you!!!
By the time my kids started kindergarten they knew better than to use the "Well Johnny did it first!" excuse on me...and I'm not only one... hence the universal parental comeback of "And if Johnny jumped off a cliff would you do it too?"
I feel like someone punched me in the gut. I'm shocked that grown arse adults would think they can get away with that excuse. Especially when it comes to children being abused. I really can't believe this crap.
originally posted by: Kharron
a reply to: Ameilia
And who should the blame be placed on?
...things like this are not forgotten, no matter how much some may hope for it. It will be in the news for years, and it will be in the books for decades. And it will be in the psyche for lifetimes. Shame doesn't wash away that easily.
We work so hard to be a great country, we work for centuries on human rights, on upholding every part of our constitution and then our legacy will become this?! it's effing disheartening. And it's effing infuriating we're letting it get this far.
*shakes head*
originally posted by: Boadicea
How the hell have we allowed this to happen?
originally posted by: SgtHamsandwich
Because your shepherds haven't told you to be outraged about it until it could be used to push a political agenda.
The way it feels lately is the left and the MSM sit in a room with a bingo cage wheel full of problems that have been around for decades. They pull out one a month and blame it on Trump, offer zero solutions and then act like they are saving the world through virtue signaling because they are upset all of a sudden.
***Back to the OP***
originally posted by: TheLead
a reply to: Boadicea
I never suggested you differed from your point...
...and you saying that I'm claiming the parents did it first means it's okay is way out of context to the point I was making...
I question whether I believe a parent that would put their kid through this is being truthful
However, even if its true I can see where the logistics would make it nearly impossible for it not to be the case in some circumstances.
I know there are plenty of terrible people that get their rocks off on abusing those that cant fend for themselves, however I just cant agree that all the people that are tending to these children are in it for that reason.
How do you see us fixing this issue?
If with my outrage I'm not willing to tell the government to use every expense and resource to ensure this doesn't happen it serves no purpose.
originally posted by: TheLead
a reply to: Boadicea
So your either for putting these kids above our own or open boaders?
If not we are effectively human smugglers? I'm sorry maybe you dont mean it like that, but that doesn't sound reasonable at all.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: notsure1
MURDER MURDER MURDER RAPE RAPE RAPE MS-13 MS-13 MS-13
Hide your kids! Build the wall! The invading horde wants to kill your children and rape your women!
Meanwhile, over in another thread, "ERMAGHERD, the Left is sooooooo dehumanizing!" *clutch pearls*
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: TheLead
If with my outrage I'm not willing to tell the government to use every expense and resource to ensure this doesn't happen it serves no purpose.
If we're not willing to demand the government use every expense and resource to make damn sure that kids in our custody involuntarily are not abused on our watch by those we make their masters, then we shouldn't be taking them into custody at all. Either we protect them or we let them go and at least give them a fighting chance.
Any less is no better than the human smugglers.